http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=fundamental Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:40:27 -0400 Liveleak http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/u/u/ll2/logo.gif http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=fundamental Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:00:05 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97b_1371678966 104JebackaBrigada Exactly one year to the day after entering London's Ecuadorian Embassy, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange lashed out at the Obama administration Wednesday over the White House's ongoing pursuit of leakers. Citing the prosecution of alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning and the recent case of Edward Snowden, Assange said President Barack Obama's relentless efforts in office to hold Americans accountable for leaking state secrets is ravaging what remains of the reputation for a country once known for its vast press freedoms. "We know from at least three national security reporters that their sources are hesitant to speak to them, and explicitly cite the treatment of Bradley Manning as a reason as to why they are hesitant to disclose abuses by the United States government in the national security sector," Assange told RT's Andrew Blake in a conference call conducted from the embassy. "So already the Manning prosecution is harming the quality of Western democracy and the quality of reporting in the press." The conversation, conducted over the phone for around 90 minutes on Monday, afforded reporters the rare opportunity to discuss the highly contested cases against Manning, WikiLeaks and Snowden with some of the most knowledgeable experts on the subject of whistle-blowing. In additional to Assange, panelists included "Pentagon Papers" leaker Daniel Ellsberg and former National Security Agency analyst Thomas Drake, who was indicted in 2010 after complaining about surveillance practices within the NSA. Private Manning, a 25-year-old Army intelligence analyst, is accused of giving Assange and WikiLeaks classified documents that the Obama administration says harmed national security, and if convicted of the most serious of charges could spend the rest of his life in prison. He was detained in pretrial confinement for three years until his military court-martial began earlier this month. "The broad case establishes a precedent that publishing national security related information about the United States is espionage," Assange said. "President Obama must do the right thing. He must immediately drop the immoral investigation against WikiLeaks, its staff and its sources," he said. Assange has yet to be formally indicted by a grand jury, but warned that other journalists and sources could suffer the same fate as either Manning or himself if they continue to expose state secrets, especially those critical of the current administration. The WikiLeaks founder has been attempting to get safe passage to Ecuador where he has been granted asylum, but the UK wants to extradite him to Sweden where he faces questioning over alleged sex crimes. According to Assange, the US Federal Bureau of Investigation has a 42,135 page file on WikiLeaks and another 8,000 relating specifically to his organization's alleged relationship with Manning. If sent to Sweden, Assange has cautioned, he will likely be shipped to America and put on trial. Commenting on the case of Edward Snowden, Assange said the US government is likely to charge the NSA leaker with espionage as well, and that even the Guardian journalists who published his evidence of widespread surveillance of American's phone and Internet habits should expect prosecution. "It is clear to me at this stage that Mr. Snowden . . . is being very aggressively pursued by the US national security sector, and there's an open question as to whether the journalists, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald, will be in the same position that I will be in in a year's time," he said. "Will Glenn Greenwald be granted asylum by Brazil this time next year?" asked Assange. But while the WikiLeaks chief had harsh words for the Obama administration during Wednesday's presser, he fell short of accusing the current commander-in-chief from launching the alleged attack against journalists. In Assange's point of view, that's a mission that never would have made it off the ground if former-President George W. Bush didn't start slashing civil liberties in the wake of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. It was Pres. Bush who first authorized the programs exposed by Snowden, but only under Obama did those initiatives intensify. " We're seeing a shift from Bush to Obama ," insisted Assange. "Bush corrupted the presidency in his executive orders calling for mass seizure of telecommunications records from American companies like Verizon. To really corrupt the presidency you have to bring in an expert. You have to bring in a constitutional scholar. So Obama did it properly." The president didn't stop there, though, Assange cautioned. "He not only corrupted the presidency in his pursuit of expanding to the horizon the power of the national security state, he also corrupted the court-the FISA court," he said. "He corrupted the oversight committee in the Senate, he corrupted the US tech companies like Google and Facebook and others who are being led into feeding in that system." In the wake of Snowden's revelations, the White House, Department of Justice and NSA have all defended the surveillance practices. Eighty-four-year-old Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the now infamous Pentagon Papers during the Vietnam War, added during Wednesday's conference call that while the Obama administration's actions are unprecedented, they aren't free from the influence of earlier administrations. "President Obama has gone further than any of the others in using the apparatus of the government to shut down a process of revelations from within his government that he doesn't control," he said. Ellsberg has spent the last several years drumming up support for Manning, WikiLeaks and Assange, and during Wednesday's phone call said that Snowden and another whistleblower, former NSA agent Thomas Drake, " performed a very great service " by stepping forward the way they did. Like Manning, both Ellsberg and Drake were charged under the 1917 Espionage Act before their trials ultimately concluded with a comparably meager slap on the wrist. Even if that doesn't match up to what Manning faces, though, Ellsberg said their cases aren't without further comparisons. "Each of us was willing to take a personal cost, a personal risk, to expose it to the public," Ellsberg said, "So I see fundamental similarity there." Elsewhere, Ellsberg said he'd likely act just as Snowden did if provided the opportunity. "If I had documents showing that the NSA at that time was carrying out dragnet surveillance without suspicion, without probable cause-and in the early years, after 911, without even referring to these rubber stamp FISA courts -I'm sure I would have put that out at the time. But I didn't see anything of that nature." But commenting on the likely fates that Snowden and the WikiLeaks source will be faced with, Ellsberg said there's likely won't be "more Bradley Mannings" in the near future. " Well, don't hold your breath. Fat chance ," said Ellsberg. Later in the discussion, Assange said he'll likely be indicted for espionage as a publisher, whereas Manning and Snowden both served as insider sources. "I'm a publisher and a journalist," said Assange, "However, the law enforcement tools and the disturbing political rhetoric that has been implied has been the same in all three cases." "What's happened here is national security became the state religion," Drake added to the discussion. "Now we have claims about what is illegal and what is illegal both with secret interpretations of the law erected by the DOJ, and secret courts where they don't reveal how they process the law. And secret oversight committees. There is a pantomime of a legal process but there is no legal process that any common person in the world would recognize to be just," Drake said. On his part, Ellsberg said that the legal practices being enacted right now by the president are not necessarily constitutional, even if lawmakers let them be signed into law. Ellsberg called the surveillance techniques operated by the NSA and the FISA court "childish" and disagreed with the notion that the government will not abuse them in order to go after Americans never suspected of any terroristic activities. The fourth week of Bradley Manning's court martial will begin next Monday following a brief recess that has sidelines proceedings for this week. That trial is expected to wrap up in August, with the soldier likely to receive at least 20 years for the 10 counts he already pleaded guilty to. What lies ahead for Snowden, however, is something much less uncertain at this time. Following the publication of the leaked NSA papers, Snowden went into hiding in Hong Kong and has since dropped off the map. "We are in touch with Mr. Snowden's legal team and have been involved in the process of brokering his asylum in Iceland," Assange said during the talk. http://rt.com/usa/assange-obama-snowden-elsberg-963/ http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97b_1371678966 104JebackaBrigada Assange: Obama 'corrupted the presidency' Anniversary, Conflict, Court, Hacking, History, Human rights, Information Technology, Internet, Mass media, Military, Obama, Politics, SciTech, USA, WikiLeaks Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:44:14 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b3_1371670143 Catalytic Former US ambassador to Israel says possible phasing out of security assistance 'may be healthy for Israel. Ex-Defense Minister Arens says 'we can get along without it' The Media Line Published: 06.19.13, 11:06 / Israel News A legislative caucus created to educate Israeli lawmakers to the basic realities of the American system of government was launched on Tuesday in the Knesset, Israel's parliament. Although a discussion of whether the United States should reduce its financial support for Israel seems like a strange subject for a group that seeks to foster bilateral relations, Israeli lawmakers representing seven political parties and a former American ambassador to Israel did just that as they celebrated the launch of the new Knesset Caucus on Israel-US Relations. "We may be reaching a point that after discussion of how to assure the security and intelligence cooperation (between the US and Israel), we can actually phase out the security assistance," former US Ambassador Dan Kurtzer told The Media Line. "It represents a very small part of Israel's GDP. Israel needs access to the technology and needs assurances that R-and-D and other join projects will continue, but standing on its own two feet may be healthy for Israel." Related stories: US to transfer $1.3B in military aid to Egypt Arens: Not every moron can be defense minister Israel may lose $500 million in US aid Support came from Moshe Arens, a former minister of defense, who also served as Israel's Ambassador to Washington. Arens reminded the assembled parliamentarians and representatives of American Jewish organizations present that there was a time when US aid to Israel made up more than 20% of Israel's GDP, while today it represents only 1.5% of the total budget. "We love to get it, and our finance minister would probably kill me if he heard me say this, but we could get along without it," Arens said. The United States is going through a financial crisis with debts in the trillions of dollars. We would be unhappy to find that aid is being cut but we could survive without it." By the same token, Knesset member Nachman Shai of the Labor party, who is the initiator of the caucus, disagreed. "We do need the three billion dollars a year for defense and military purposes because we are still in a terrible arms race," he told The Media Line. "If we want to maintain our qualitative edge over our enemies, the only way is to rely on America. At least in the next ten years I can see Israel totally dependent on America for this." In 1987, the US assistance package was created with an annual allocation of $1.8 billion in economic aid and $1.2 billion in military aid. In his first term in office in the late 1990s, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu agreed to gradually relinquish economic aid at a rate of $120 million per year over a 10-year period while military aid grew to its current level of $3 billion a year, almost three-quarters of which must be spent in the United States on the acquisition of American defense equipment, services and training. 'Only way is to rely on America.' MK Shai (Photo: Alex Kolomoisky) Despite the close alliance between the two nations, many on both sides believe that there are still fundamental misunderstandings about each other's governments. The caucus had actually been formed during the previous government headed by Ronit Tirosh, who represented a party no longer in the Knesset. Following her exit, Jay Ruderman, the president of the Ruderman Family Foundation, approached Nachman Shai. "I've been living in Israel for seven years and as I got to meet Knesset members and government ministers, I realized they didn't understand the American Jewish community," Ruderman told The Media Line. He also said that the generation of American Jews who remember Israel's early history as an embattled nation, is being replaced by a younger generation with a different perspective. "The connection of the younger generation with Israel is changing," Ruderman said. "They are more integrated into American society. If that relationship is changing, Israeli leaders have to be aware of those changes because they will impact the relationship." Nachman Shai, who has extensive experience with the American Jewish community, said many of his fellow lawmakers don't have a clue about the United States or its Jewish community. "I think there is a deep lack of information and understanding of America," Shai told The Media Line. "I think I can use my knowledge to deepen their understanding and knowledge of the political system there; the culture of the US; and the Jewish community there. The Ruderman Family Foundation has already sent two delegations of Knesset members to the United States to learn about the American Jewish community. However, some of those who participated with the foundation are no longer members of parliament following the January election which saw 48-new faces sweep into the 120-member legislative body. Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister's Office Ofir Akunis told The Media Line of his experience as a participant with the Ruderman Family Foundation delegation. "Such visits are, in my opinion, the best way to build and support the mutual understanding between our nations." Among the caucus's first time lawmakers is Rabbi Dov Lipman of the Yesh Atid party, an immigrant from the state of Maryland who had to give up his American citizenship in order to become a member of the Israeli parliament. "I've only been in the Knesset four and a half months," Lipman told The Media Line. "I can definitely say that in terms of the misinformation about Israel, there is a lack of education here in terms of what we need to do in order to better portray ourselves in the (American) national arena." Along with all of the positive sentiment, some of the tensions in the US-Israeli relationship were also on display. "What happens when there are differences of opinion between partners and allies?" former Defense Minister Arens asked. "If the subject at issue is of vital importance to one of the partners in the alliance, the other partner will defer. The issue of Judea and Samaria, of Israel's borders, is of vital importance to the State of Israel. It's not of vital importance to the US," Arens said using the Biblical names for land Israel acquired in the 1967 war and remain the primary bone of contention between Israel and the Arab nations. Kurtzer spoke to the American side of the issue, explaining how pressure to reduce spending, which makes foreign assistance a natural target for trimming the US budget, can arguably be expected to affect Israel. He suggested to The Media Line that while so far Israel has been immune from the cutbacks resulting when "the American population sees their lifestyle declining...It is part of our dialogue to focus on areas where Israel has significant requirements and give back something to the US in budgetary distress." In Shai's estimation, "We have three or four years for this. At the end of this Knesset term I can tell you whether it worked or didn't work. We have a lot of work to do." http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4394357,00.html http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b3_1371670143 Catalytic Israel Ex-Defense Minister Arens: Israel can get by without US security aid Israel, US, taxpayer, aid, military, collapse, budget, cuts, Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:55:27 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f03_1371639212 LostRothschild Someone has woken up here... This is the key to all gun control legislation. ======================================================================= House unanimously adopts Kelly Amendment to ban funding for UN Arms Trade Treaty 06/17/2013 Washington D.C. Representative Mike Kelly (R-PA) introduced an amendment on Friday, June 14, 2013 to H.R. 1960, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014 (NDAA), to prohibit federal funding for the implementation of the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) for one year . The amendment was adopted unanimously by the House of Representatives by a voice vote and included in the final passage of the NDAA, which Rep. Kelly voted to support. Floor remarks by Rep. Kelly: "Over the last year, I have been joined by over 140 bipartisan members of this body to express deep concerns with the ATT and to urge its rejection. "First, the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty undermines our Second Amendment rights by omitting the fundamental, individual right to keep and bear arms and imposing a national 'responsibility' to prevent firearms 'diversion,' thus opening the door to new gun control measures. "Secondly, the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty undermines our sovereignty by imposing vague, readily politicized requirements on the United States and inviting United Nations-led investigations into what U.S. policy makers knew or should have known regarding arms transfers that allegedly violate the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. "Ultimately, the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty will stop the good from doing good without stopping the bad from doing bad. As then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said, the U.S. maintains the 'gold standard' of arms export controls. My amendment upholds our current policies as well as our enduring values." NOTE: The ATT opened for national signatures on June 3, 2013, and will enter into force for its signatories 90 days after the 50th nation-state has ratified the treaty. In order to take domestic effect, the ATT must be signed by the president, receive the advice and consent of the Senate, and be the subject of implementing legislation by the Congress. Rep. Kelly is a leader of the national movement to stop the ATT. On March 15, 2013, heintroduced H. Con. Res. 23, a bipartisan concurrent resolution expressing opposition to the treaty, which currently has 146 co-sponsors in the House and 36 supporters in the Senate. http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/17/house-unanimously-adopts-kelly-amendment-to-ban-funding-for-un-arms-trade-treaty http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f03_1371639212 LostRothschild Funding banned for UN Arms Trade Treaty. 2, 2nd, second, amendment, gun, firearm, rights, constitution, tyranny, freedom, un, arms trade treaty Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:02:32 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5d9_1371502771 english-patriot33 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10100943/Can-David-Cameron-explain-why-he-has-put-us-on-al-Qaedas-side.html Can David Cameron explain why he has put us on al-Qaeda's side? The longer a prime minister remains in 10 Downing Street, the more likely he or she is to go mad. Something of the sort happened to Gordon Brown and also, from 2003 onwards if not before, to Tony Blair. No prime minister has left office in full possession of his or her mental faculties since Jim Callaghan in early 1979. One of David Cameron's admirable qualities has been his sanity. He is unexcitable. He is not paranoid, does not conspire against his colleagues, sit up to the small hours of the morning brooding, or hurl pieces of crockery around the room when in a violent rage. He is not subject to sudden, irrational mood-swings. None of this can or should be taken for granted, and surely Samantha Cameron can take some of the credit. "My job is to get him out of here sane," she tells friends. But the Prime Minister has been in the job for three years (and Tory leader for nearly eight), and watching him answer questions on the floor of the House on Monday afternoon, for the first time I started to wonder. With Parliament back after the Whitsun recess, Mr Cameron made a statement that dealt principally with the civil war in Syria, and gave the belated parliamentary response to the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby. Many of his remarks were those of a man with only a tenuous grip on reality. What was missing was common sense. We have seen this many times before. Sir Peter Tapsell, father of the Commons, said that Syria was now enduring what is "fundamentally a religious war between the Shia and the Sunni, which has raged within Islam for 1,300 years". Mr Cameron would not accept this point. "When I see the official Syrian opposition," he replied, "I do not see purely a religious grouping; I see a group of people who have declared that they are in favour of democracy, human rights and a future for minorities, including Christians, in Syria. That is the fact of the matter." Then Jack Straw, a former foreign secretary, asked whether the Prime Minister agreed that Iran would have to be part of any peace deal. Mr Cameron failed to deal with this essential question. At the time of the Iraq invasion 10 years ago, something very like this happened to Tony Blair. A moment came when he too entered a virtual world. Like Mr Blair, Mr Cameron has come to advocate policy in a macabre vacuum, devoid of truth or understanding. He too displays a reluctance to accept the irksome realities of the human condition. Like Mr Blair, Mr Cameron had taken no interest in the world outside Britain before he entered No 10. They both learnt about foreign affairs as prime minister, and both are open to the charge that they treat the subject like a grand, theoretical abstraction. From the start, Mr Cameron (just like Mr Blair in Iraq) has been happy to entertain the proposition that this Syrian conflict is in essence a struggle between good and evil - benevolent democrats and liberals fighting a virtuous struggle against the murderous tyrant Assad. In fact, the rebels were not nearly as good (and President Assad not as evil) as Mr Cameron has thought. As a result of this, the Prime Minister has got it wrong from the start. He massively underestimated Assad's support and staying power. He was absurdly contemptuous of the Russians (who have outmanoeuvred us all along). Above all, he has failed to understand the rebels. Very much as Mr Blair and his American allies were duped by the impostor Ahmed Chalabi and his Iraqi National Congress, so Mr Cameron has made the mistake of taking the Syrian National Coalition seriously. They are intelligent, educated, well-intentioned men in suits - hotel guerrillas - and as such irrelevant to what is now happening in Syria. The Prime Minister would do well to read the mea culpa published last week in Al-Monitor, by a pseudonymous writer from Aleppo who calls himself Edward Dark. "So what went wrong?' asks Mr Dark. "Or, to be more accurate, where did we go wrong? How did a once inspirational and noble popular uprising calling for freedom and basic human rights degenerate into an orgy of bloodthirsty sectarian violence, with depravity unfit for even animals?" Mr Dark describes how the revolution has been captured by a collection of gangsters and fanatics. "This wasn't what we revolted for," he says in despair at the dreadful fate that has overcome the country he loves, "to replace one group of criminals with another." Mr Dark now says he has given up on the revolution. He says that he has seen that the only way forward is "through reconciliation and a renunciation of violence". Yet Mr Cameron wants to escalate the fighting by arranging military support to the rebels. He told Parliament on Monday that he hopes this will "tip the balance" in their favour. Iran - in reality an essential part of any solution - will not be welcome at the negotiating table, and in Mr Cameron's mind there is no future for Assad, which probably means that the war will drag on and on. I dare say that the Prime Minister is sincere when he asserts that Syria is in the grip of a civil war, with democrats and human rights activists ranged up on one side against an evil dictator. I have not been to Syria, but it is clear to me that Sir Peter Tapsell is much closer to the truth. Certainly, the liberal elite in which the Prime Minister places such hopes was involved at the beginning of the uprising. But armed elements funded and supplied by interested parties in Saudi Arabia and Qatar were also present from the start. Their fundamental aim was nothing to do with human rights and the protection of minorities. It was to destabilise and destroy President Assad, Iran's closest ally in the region, and therefore assert Saudi dominance. To what extent have Britain and America been complicit? It is hard to judge. What can be said with certainty is that over the past decade the Middle East, and to some extent the Islamic world, has broken down into two armed camps. On the one side are Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, backed by the United States and (quietly) Israel. To everyone's enormous embarrassment, al-Qaeda is very firmly in this camp. On the other side are Iran, Hizbollah and post-bellum Iraq, strongly backed by Russia and China. Viewed from this wider perspective, Mr Cameron's claim to be on the side of democracy and human rights, and against dictatorship, is not merely fraudulent - it is patently ridiculous. We are not on the side of democracy. As Sir Peter Tapsell hinted in the Commons, Britain has wholeheartedly backed the Sunni camp - Saudi, the Gulf States, and al-Qaeda - in its increasingly bloodthirsty and horrifying conflict against Shia Islam. There may be some very good reasons for this, but I do wish that the Prime Minister would re-engage with the real world, come out publicly, and explain what they are. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5d9_1371502771 english-patriot33 Can David Cameron explain why he has put us on al-Qaeda's side? islam, muslims, terrorists, spineless david cameron, Sat, 15 Jun 2013 22:49:17 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=914_1371350803 LaGrandeBouffe Obama lied. He's a serial liar. He claims Syria used chemical weapons. His so-called red line was crossed. No verifiable evidence provides proof. Clear facts prove he lied. Syria's Foreign Ministry called Obama's accusations "a caravan of lies" and "fabrications." On May 5, Reuters headlined "UN has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator." Geneva-based "UN human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria's civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday." "The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapon." Under heavy pressure, UN investigators back-tracked. They about-faced. They recanted. They lied. They claimed no "conclusive findings as to the use of chemical weapons in Syria by any parties to the conflict." Investigators failed "to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator." Clear facts don't matter. Obama manufactured his own. He twisted reality to fit policy. He replicated a familiar scenario. Doing so reflects another Colin Powell moment. His infamous February 5, 2003 Security Council speech (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/05/iraq.usa) led to war. It was shameless deception. WMD claims were false. Powell later recanted. It was too late to matter. Iraq was ravaged and destroyed. Waging war requires reasons to do so. When none exist, they're invented. At issue is greater intervention in Syria. Lies substitute for truth. Claims about Syria using chemical weapons don't wash. Repetition gets people to believe them. We've seen it all before. Previous articles explained what bears repeating. Syria is Washington's war. It was planned years ago. US-enlisted death squads wage it. They're proxy foot soldiers. There's nothing civil about ongoing conflict. Syria was invaded. Internal opposition is largely nonviolent. It wants dialogue, not war. Washington's been arming, funding, training and directing insurgents since conflict began. CIA operatives and US special forces are involved. "Salvador Option" rules apply. They include massacres, torture, other gruesome atrocities, and chemical weapons use blamed on Assad. At issue is regime change. Washington wants pro-Western puppet leadership replacing Assad. Independent governments aren't tolerated. Big Lies launch wars. Obama's heading closer to full-scale US intervention. Libya 2.0 looms. Alexei Pushkov reacted (http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130614/181661349/US-Chemical-Weapons-Report-in-Syria-Cooked--Russian-MP.html). He heads Russia's Duma. It's the Lower House of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation. Obama's "going the same way" as Bush, he said. "Information about the usage of chemical weapons by Assad is fabricated in the same way as the lie about (Saddam) Hussein's weapons of mass destruction." Benjamin Rhodes is White House deputy national security advisor for strategic communication. "The president has said that the use of chemical weapons would change his calculus, and it has," he said. US intelligence determined with "high certainty" that Assad "used chemical weapons, including the nerve agent sarin, on a small scale against the opposition multiple times in the last year." US intelligence determined nothing. Insurgents alone used chemical weapons. Obama knows it. So do other administration officials and congressional members. Rhodes turned truth on its head. He regurgitated the official lie. He's paid to do so. Imperial priorities alone matter. Up to 150 people died, Rhodes said. Obama ruled out US ground forces. He made no decision regarding a no-fly zone. He stopped short of ordering other US intervention. According to the Wall Street Journal: "US military planners, responding to a request by the White House to develop options for Syria, recommended the limited no-fly zone along the Syrian border to protect rebels and refugees inside Jordan." "The plan would create what one official called a 'no fighting zone' that would stretch up to 25 miles into Syrian territory along the Jordanian border, preventing Mr. Assad's forces from launching attacks against the rebels and refugees and protecting US personnel involved in distributing weapons and providing training." "Under this plan, the US. and its allies would enforce the zone using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to US officials." "Suffice it to say (that what's planned) is going to be different in both scope and scale" than previously, said Rhodes. "We will continue to increase these efforts going forward. I can't go through an inventory of the type of assistance we are going to provide." "It's going to be substantively different from what we were providing certainly before our initial (chemical weapons) assessment in April." "It's going to be an increase on both the political and the military side. We have a range of contingency plans drawn up." Readers can review the full text of Rhodes' remarks. Arms shipments will begin. CIA elements will handle them. Agency officials declined comment. On June 17 and 18, G8 leaders meet in Northern Ireland. Syria for sure will be discussed. Russia prioritizes diplomatic conflict resolution. Obama wants war, not peace. Rogue leaders operate this way. So do Senators John McCain (R. AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R. SC). On June 13, they released a joint statement, saying: "We appreciate the President's finding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on several occasions. We also agree with the President that this fact must affect US policy toward Syria." "The President's red line has been crossed. US credibility is on the line. Now is not the time to merely take the next incremental step. Now is the time for more decisive actions." "The conflict in Syria has taken a dramatic turn for the worse. The United Nations reported today that the death toll in Syria is approaching 93,000." "Hezbollah is all in. Iran is all in. Iraqi militant groups are flowing into Syria to fight for Assad. Russia continues to provide military and diplomatic support." "Assad is dramatically increasing his use of airpower against civilians and opposition forces in Syria. A report today stated that Assad's forces conducted at least 5,000 air-to-ground attacks last month alone." "A decision to provide lethal assistance, especially ammunition and heavy weapons, to opposition forces in Syria is long overdue, and we hope the President will take this urgently needed step." "But providing arms alone is not sufficient. That alone is not enough to change the military balance of power on the ground against Assad." The President must rally an international coalition to take military actions to degrade Assad's ability to use airpower and ballistic missiles and to move and resupply his forces around the battlefield by air." "This can be done, as we have said many times, using stand-off weapons such as cruise missiles." "We cannot afford to delay any longer. Assad is on the offensive with every weapon in his arsenal and with the complete support of his foreign allies. We must take more decisive actions now to turn the tide of the conflict in Syria." McCain and Graham are notorious warmongers. They're war criminals. They support lawless aggression. It's the supreme crime against peace. Like Obama officials, they turn truth on its head. They twist reality to fit policies they urge. They recklessly endanger world peace. They threaten humanity. They belong in prison, not high office. They're not alone. Likeminded scoundrels infest Washington. They proliferate Big Lies. They spurn fundamental rule of law principles. They do so unapologetically. Imperial priorities alone matter. America's heading closer to more war. Obama's hands already are blood-drenched. He's a war criminal multiple times over. He can't wait to kill again. He bears full responsibility for thousands of Syrian deaths. He plans mass-slaughtering more. His agenda reflects death and destruction. He exceeded the worst of George Bush. His contempt for humanity is palpable. It may not survive his second term. He's got more than Syria in mind. The road to Tehran runs through Damascus. Longstanding war plans threaten the Islamic Republic. Millions more lives are at stake. Washington Post editors urge war on Syria. Stephen Hadley was Bush II National Security Advisor. James Steinberg is former Obama Deputy Secretary of State. Joe Lieberman was US Senator from Connecticut. On June 13, their Washington Post op-ed headlined "Iran's nuclear ambitions demand urgent reaction from international community," saying: "(T)he world has become numb to Iranian intransigence, a policy that is unlikely to change no matter who wins" Friday's presidential election. A "sense of crisis is warranted," they claimed. Iran "stonewall(s) the international community at the negotiating table." It's heading toward "produc(ing) a nuclear weapon." "The United States urgently needs to take several steps that will significantly sharpen the choice faced by Iran's leaders." Obama "should signal unequivocally that the United States is prepared to take military action against Iran absent a diplomatic breakthrough." "He should publicly announce that it has plans for military action against Iranian nuclear and missile facilities, conduct military exercises in the region in a systematic and sustained way consistent with those plans, deploy US military forces to protect critical assets of our allies in the region and prepare to close down overseas Hezbollah cells and expose Iranian intelligence agents." "It is no longer possible to shrug off the ongoing diplomatic impasse with Tehran. The United States and the international community must approach this crisis with the clarity, determination and urgency it demands and deserves." Iran threatens no one. It's nuclear program is peaceful. Washington, European and Israeli official know it. They claim otherwise. Warmongers infest Washington. Bipartisan scoundrels decide policy. America's addicted to war. Permanent war is longstanding policy. Peace is verboten. Today is the most perilous time in world history. Nations that live by war perish by it. America's demise may take humanity with it. by Stephen Lendman http://sjlendman.blogspot.mx/ http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=914_1371350803 LaGrandeBouffe Obama Ups the Stakes in Syria Syria war, Obama, terror Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:51:29 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a99_1371336256 Detroit Iron by Evan McMurry 3:44 pm, June 15th, 2013 "DC is one hot mess," Sarah Palin told the attendees of Ralph Reed' s Faith and Freedom Coalition conference on Saturday morning, trashing Obama over a variety of scandals, promoting libertarians over the GOP establishment, and encouraging tea party movements. "Something more is going on than your garden-variety government corruption, or even illegality," Palin said. "As the left would say, this is shaping up to be a teachable moment. What's going on says something fundamental about our relationship to our government." "The scandals infecting this city, they are a symptom of a bigger disease, and it doesn't matter if it's a Republican or a Democrat sitting atop a bloated boot on your neck, out of control government, everybody gets infected, no party is immune," Palin said. "That's why, I tell you, I'm listening to those independents, those libertarians, who are saying, it is both sides of the aisle, the leadership, the good ol' boys in the party on both sides of the aisle, they perpetuate the problem." "You know what I wish the Congress would do?" She asked. "Just for a week, perhaps, put themselves on Cruz control-Ted Cruz control. I think we'd see some solutions." "Don't discredit and dismiss everyday average hard-working Americans," she continued, "those who are part of that grassroot tea party movement who want to effect the positive change, because too often, leaders, you are not doing it." RELATED: Palin Blasts NSA: Couldn't Find 'Two Pot-Smoking Bostonians With Hotline To Terrorist Central?' Palin also took on the "pandering, rewarding the rule breakers, still-no-border security, special interest written amnesty bill," especially ribbing Jeb Bush for his fertility comment yesterday. "I think it's kind of touchy territory to want to debate this over one race's fertility over another, and I say that as someone who's kinda fertile herself." Obama didn't evade Palin's lashing, either. "Where is our commander in chief?" Palin asked. "We're talking now more new interventions? I say, until we know what we're doing, until we have a commander in chief who knows what he's doing-well, chief, in these radical Islamic countries, aren't even respecting basic human rights, when both sides are slaughtering each other as they scream over an arbitrary red line 'Allah ak-bar'-I say, let Allah sort it out." http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a99_1371336256 Detroit Iron Palin Fires At Obama, GOP Establishment: Congress Should 'Listen To Libertarians,' Go On 'Ted Cruz Control' Sarah Palin, Faith and Freedom Coalition, Obama, GOP Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:43:23 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f63_1371235149 CobraDriver Did anybody catch this United Nations doozie? Approved by a 53-46 vote, is that close enuff for you? In the pre-dawn hours Saturday, the Senate approved a measure "to uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty." By a vote of 53-46, the Senate passed the amendment to the budget bill sponsored by Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.). This reporter is in New York covering the negotiations at the UN aimed at drafting a treaty calling for the eradication of small arms trade, sale, and transfer by anyone other than UN-approved governments. "We're negotiating a treaty that cedes our authority to have trade agreements with our allies in terms of trading arms," Inhofe before the vote on his amendment. "This is probably the last time this year that you'll be able to vote for your Second Amendment rights." According to a story in The Hill , Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) proposed his own amendment "that clarified that under current U.S. law, treaties don't trump the Constitution and that the United States should not agree to any arms treaty that violates the Second Amendment rights." Leahy's amendment also passed. A resolution of similar intent sponsored by Senator Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) is currently pending before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Moran's measure declares that it is the sense of Congress that: the President should not sign the Arms Trade Treaty, and that, if he transmits the treaty with his signature to the Senate, the Senate should not ratify the Arms Trade Treaty; and until the Arms Trade Treaty has been signed by the President, received the advice and consent of the Senate, and has been the subject of implementing legislation by Congress, no Federal funds should be appropriated or authorized to implement the Arms Trade Treaty, or any similar agreement, or to conduct activities relevant to the Arms Trade Treaty, or any similar agreement. Representative Mike Kelly (R-Penn.) has offered a companion measure in the House . Both the Moran and Kelly resolutions declare that the Arms Trade Treaty "poses significant risks to the national security, foreign policy, and economic interests of the United States as well as to the constitutional rights of United States citizens and United States sovereignty." The measures also points out that UN gun grab "fails to expressly recognize the fundamental, individual right to keep and to bear arms and the individual right of personal self-defense, as well as the legitimacy of hunting, sports shooting, and other lawful activities pertaining to the private ownership of firearms and related materials, and thus risks infringing on freedoms protected by the Second Amendment." As The New American has reported from the United Nations last week, negotiators at the Arms Trade Treaty conference are planning to effectively repeal the Second Amendment by replacing the Constitution with the UN Charter and by replacing God with government as the source of all rights, including the right to keep and bear arms. Principally, this treaty would eradicate the Second Amendment in two ways: first, by mandating that state signatories create a registry of gun owners, manufacturers, sellers, and traders; second, by making it nearly impossible for civilians to purchase ammunition. The most egregious affront to the sovereignty of the United States is that there is not a single word in the Arms Trade Treaty protecting the unalienable right to keep and bear arms. In fact, the latest draft of the proposed agreement recognizes private ownership of firearms only for "recreational, cultural, historical, and sporting activities." This is a significant and unacceptable infringement on the rights protected by the Second Amendment. In truth, however, Americans needn't look to an unaccountable, unelected body of globalist bureaucrats for reaffirmation of the rights already guaranteed by our Constitution. While it is unlikely that the Senate would ratify the treaty in its present form (67 senators would have to vote to approve it), when it comes to disarming citizens of this country, President Obama has shown that he will not be deterred by congressional inaction or by constitutional limits on his authority. Although in reality, treaties that violate the Constitution are prima facie null, void, of no legal effect, the Supreme Court has come down on both sides of the supremacy issue. In a pair of contradictory decisions, the Supreme Court has held that "No doubt the great body of private relations usually fall within the control of the State, but a treaty may override its power" ( Missouri v. Holland ) and "constitutional rights cannot be eliminated by a treaty" ( Reid v. Covert ). This conflict of cases creates a situation where, as Alan Korwin wrote in 2012 at the time of the previous round of negotiations on the Arms Trade Treaty, "While some of us would surely and boldly draw the lines where they are 'supposed' to be, i.e., in line with our natural and historic rights, the forces aligned against the Second Amendment have no problem arguing vigorously for its destruction, regardless of any of these details, and therein lies the greatest threat we face." It would appear that regarding the preservation of the right to keep and bear arms, the states will be required to uphold the liberties protected by our Constitution in the face of federal collusion with the international forces of civilian disarmament. The latest round of Arms Trade Treaty negotiations are scheduled to wrap up on March 28. Should the U.S. delegation agree to participate in the agreement (and President Obama has instructed them to do so ), the treaty will be sent to the Senate for consideration. Americans who refuse to allow the UN to seize their guns and ammo still have time to contact their senators and remind them of the oath they took to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States," including the right to keep and bear arms. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f63_1371235149 CobraDriver Senate Votes to Keep U.S. Out of UN Arms Trade Treaty politics, constitution, gun rights, united nations, senate Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:44:48 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=721_1371163286 VartanZoravar http://www.duzceyerelhaber.com/her-taraf-haberleri/14634-gezi-parkinin-yagma-tarihi-dun-ermenilerin-mezarlari-bugun-agaclar#.UbpKKpx5ebQ A decisive act of resistance against the plunder of Istanbul in Taksim Park, organized the trip. Travel Park also has a history in which the land is very interesting. Here is the state of the land occupied by the Armenian cemetery in the past, and plundered date! Tamar Daglioglu Nalci and Emre Can, Suleiman the Magnificent, who saved him from death cemetery allocated by Armenians as the Armenian Republic cook Manuk the period of grace Karaseferyan'a confiscated after years of litigation and bureaucrats and academics play an active role in this process under the spotlight for Agos took. Diagnosis by saying passing Earth To make a new start for a nation-state, the most common form of the date, the official history of attempts to put forward, and delete the old collective memory. Facing the old drive out to draw new boundaries and one of the tools used in these initiatives, cities and urban architecture. Which is reproduced in the sense of the continuity of history 'commemorative' spaces, enables the device to link the past and the society. The 'old' architectural fabric of the city until the surface of the deletion, the deletion of the collective memory leads to disrupted the continuity between the past and the community ional society 'deep inememesine' hatirlayamamasina and, consequently, causes y"uzlesememesine history. Turkey's nation-building experience of the past and the bonds of society, considering the important role of the slogan breakout, create history by re-examining alternative memory areas. In this paper, oblivion "calling back" to contribute to the creation of an alternative to a memory area is written. Divan Hotel, one of the structures of society that serves as Break the link with the past. Travel across Taksim Park a few years ago was making gravestones. Today Trip Park Military museum, TRT Istanbul Radio building, the Hilton and the Court of hotels, this area was an ancient Armenian mezarligiydi. Divan Hotel re-opened Surp Agop Cemetery, and today we look at history, how a fundamental injustice of the past were going to have to remember the victim. Because, Mithat Sancar, as he says, "do not go lost eternally forgotten many things, temporarily place her erisemeyecegimiz waits for us." The testimony of literature This is going to be wiped out tutunulabilecek to prevent one of the most robust branches of literature testimony. Orhan Pamuk, Cevdet Bey and Ogullari'ndaki testimony, do not go to the city's surface, an event that has been deleted or lost, Surp Agop Cemetery tries to remind us: "(...) The new governor wants to yiktirmak clubhouse, give them a small plot opposite the cemetery of the Surp Agop said. This would, I think, doubtful. (...) One of the ladies playing tennis in the territory of the old cemetery, the weather relented and told him all of a sudden it would be inappropriate There was silence. (...) The old cemetery with graves of the land on the corner of tennis oynanmayacagini said the lady, he is not said to be covered with an old church yikintisiyla pacified. " In the same effort, Ahmed Aziz aboard Askale seen in the novel "fills out the aims to enable their wealth, the Wealth Tax is equivalent to. Around, a human tragedy, while the king of that year they disappeared. (...) Last year expropriated, and St. Gregory the Illuminator Church Cemetery in Surp Agop inopportune hatirli guys put it together to buy at a price that is struck. whispered names duydukca amazement. cemetery, and I think the church would be reduced at very low rates. " Hold for the memory of the period is a branch of the other organs of the press. However, the sources for this study, we found that we scanned, press covered this issue in Armenian in Turkey and outside Turkey, while the Turkish press remained silent. Subsequent litigation process as a single unified resource, Armaveni Miroglu'nun, Armenian media in creating this article and frequently consulted by scanning penned "Pangalti Armenian Cemetery (Surp Hagop Cemetery)" The article (Social History, No. 187) note that it is. The history of the cemetery Date of Surp Agop Cemetery, 1560'ta begins in Istanbul, the great plague. Armenian community, the victims of the epidemic, the time-of-town Elmadag counted today, Surp Agop Surp Agop Hospital Cemetery is located across the field begins to bury. In 1929, according to the letter penned by Van Natanyan'in Margos, the cemetery is located on the land, thanks to Sultan S"uleyman the Armenians were Karaseferyan Manuk cook. After Sultan zaptetmesinin Buddha, the Germans established a plot to poison him, Manuk want to be involved in the conspiracy because the Sultan, do not eat anything except his knowledge. Manuk unveils it rejects the request and conspiracy. Sultan, Gaspar want to reward. Manuk, him, demands a graveyard for the Armenians in Istanbul. Sultan also gives Pangalti'ndaki Armenians wide land. Natanyan'a, according to the Taksim Harbiye dates back to the land. Van Karaseferyan family, who died in 1808 in Harutyun Karaseferyan, such as Manuk Efendi, Pangalti buried in the Armenian cemetery, headstone, cemetery, imperial edicts he issued his ancestor was written. After the outbreak of cholera in 1865, is now very close to the city center of Pera, the Surp Agop Cemetery burial of the dead is prohibited. In contrast, the Armenian Cemetery fiisli is allocated to the congregation. Vacant land for the cemetery dead defnedilemedigi Surp Agop, Istepan Pasha Aslanyan'in efforts, the St. Gregory the Illuminator Church is built. Sultan Abdul Aziz retained In 1872, fiehremaneti (City Hall), the Surp Agop Armenian Cemetery War confiscated land to include land, but the Sultan Abdul Aziz, the cemetery was given, and the Armenians in the territory of the Armenian community confirms that the imperial edicts. In 1912, the Municipality, the street, to expand, to take a portion of the cemetery. The congregation, as the price of the land, not only the construction of the wall, such as bones and tombstones transportation costs will be paid for 15 thousand gold. Mezarlik'taki "monuments" Cemetery were buried after the March 31 incident, a separate information causes confusion. In 1909, the Istanbul Action Army approached, Taskisla and Selimiye barracks and put up barricades Hunter Taburlari'ndaki soldiers killed violently opposed. The bodies were buried in the Surp Agop Armenian Cemetery. Mustafa Turan, author of Memoirs of a General's March 31, the situation, "these poor victims of the events of March 31 at unprecedented even worthy of a Muslim cemetery, Surp Agop Armenian Cemetery buried," he explains. On the other hand, Action Army soldiers who died in this incident and the Christian volunteers, with a grand ceremony, the embedded. Enver Pasha, in his speech at the Tomb "Muslims and Christians living and dying, no longer as a sign of racial and religious discrimination to recognize that they are patriotic friends they lie side by side," says then. Arsen Avagyan, the Armenians and the Committee of Union and Progress in the book, the Surp Agop Cemetery and buried those who died fighting in the Army, and even the cemetery, brotherhood, and erected a monument representing the Muslim-Christian unity indicates. However, this claim is shown as the source, Edwin Pears' Forty Years in Constantinople in his book, this monument, in fact, Abide-i H"urriyet, H"urriyet is located on the hill, the Army Corps of land adjacent to the burial of the victims of the British Girls High School written . Have this conversation in front of the monument that Enver Pasha. A further argument, the Surp Agop Cemetery, planted in 1919, is that a genocide monument. That year, a committee established for this purpose, and a number of Istanbul is true that the memorial project. Famous Armenian intellectual Teotig this komitededir, collecting and writing biographies of Armenians were killed in 1915 and taken to the start of this reason. Teotig April '11 Monument Surp Agop's cemetery memorial monument in the photograph on the cover of the book, whether it is unfortunately unknown. Rita S. Kuyumjian'in, Teotig subject area and established the committee did not mention in his book to the monument, and what we have today, that the ceremony of inauguration of the monument, or there are no pictures showing the absence of this information is now not only the nature of a claim. The case begins Located on the busiest street in Istanbul's Beyoglu district, and a large Surp Agop Cemetery, has a large and very valuable land. Therefore, 19 Starting at the end of the century, the land acquisition efforts, cut off from the old and new Istanbul takes aim at establishing a Republic in the period. Towards this goal, in 1931, the Municipality of Istanbul, a foundation from the land of Sultan Beyazit parents, claiming that the transfer request of the Council, such as other abandoned cemeteries and Land Administration refers to the legal process starts by opening the case. Miroglu'nun Armaveni According to the article, in turn, required documents prepared by the Board of Community Corporeal Land Registry Head Office in Ankara sent two representatives to apply. Representatives of the Armenian Cemetery Pangalti not abandoned, just in time, due to health reasons explain forbidden burial of the dead there. Since then, many times, the land, the property is registered with the Armenian community and, therefore, states that can not be put in hand, Land Center, Istanbul Land Administration, orders to save on municipal land. Patriarch Mesrop Naroyan the period, as the representative of the Armenian community and is involved in the case will follow the process. Municipalities, as well as the seizure of Surp Agop Cemetery, cemetery property foreclosures income when you put the Patriarch and the deputy Kevork Naroyan Torkomyan, abandoned cemetery on the grounds that the Council will prosecute on behalf of the Patriarchate. Narliyan Maksut Patriarchate and Necati Bey's lawyer, cemetery, until the final decision of the court not being allowed to pass through the official shall request the Council. Court to take the case, since now the Council from taking the land of 20 thousand dollars bail in the display in order to meet future depreciation, provided that the request is accepted. Based on this decision, the Council's lawyers and the Armenian Patriarchate of the Armenian community in Turkey, does not exist, the decision of the Council of Ministers dated 19 July 1915 the Patriarch of the Armenian Patriarchate in Jerusalem and the exile had been transported back to the claim that there . Their aim is to prove that the right to sue on behalf of the congregation Naroyan'in Patriarch. The Patriarchate's lawyers, the cemetery set aside the trial, the court would have to provide evidence proving the existence of the Armenian community. Re-regulation of the Patriarchate and the Patriarchate decree dated 18 October 1915 shows onaylanisini, Mayor refutes objections to the lawyers and the court rejected the demands of the Council accepts that the right to sue the Patriarchate. Thus, the Armenian community in Turkey, with all the rights of legal personalities and religious institutions that Naroyan been approved on behalf of the Patriarch is the leader of the rightful owner. Ahmed Rafik "OPINION" Court to determine the boundaries of Sultan Beyazit parents and have a historian Ahmed Refik Altinay Foundation and Istanbul Asar-i Atika Museums Director Aziz Ogan throws, including a four-person panel of experts. Claiming false documents showing that the cemetery belonging to Armenians Altinay of the land is the property of Sultan Beyazit Parent Foundation 'scientific' means exposes. In this process, Turkey increased media interest in the case of the Surp Agop Cemetery. Published reports, often mentioned as a historian praised Altinay'dan which intervened in the proceedings. Altinay, gives an interview about the case of the evening newspaper, Surp Agop Cemetery. The historical background to the case told the interview report prepared by the Patriarchate, Necati Bey's lawyer said the case is a lack of knowledge about the fort, "the Turkish fortress everything breaks down, but never his own," he specifies. "You know" results The Committee of Experts, as a result of his research report by the Foundation's parent indicates that the cemetery arsasinin Sultan Beyazit. Directorate of Foundations of the meeting, Mr. Rafiq Ahmed, Sultan Beyazit Foundation's parents argued that provides examples of documents and provide information on the foundation's borders. In 1933, the Criminal Court of Istanbul, on the basis of this report, the Surp Agop Armenian Cemetery, Cemeteries Act passed by the Council of derelict land as a cemetery, and decides to accept. Altinay'a Rafiq Ahmed, the Council his "contribution to the value of billions from" a house is allocated for. By the way, where all the documents related to the case, will not fire in Sultanahmet Courthouse on December 3, 1933. Therefore, the Surp Agop Armenian Cemetery proceedings, be postponed until the courts to begin work again. However, the Miroglu'na, according to the Department of Land and the municipality a copy of all documents are available. From 1 March 1931, Surp Agop Cemetery trial ended November 26, 1934. The court, in addition to other decisions, the Patriarchate, court costs and attorneys' costs 150 lira Deputy Mayor decides to pay. The second case After a while, the Church of Beyoglu three Horan Head of the Board of Directors. Hovsep Jalal, open a new case in order to eliminate the injustice 'precautionary measure-i' demands. Court, the request, the cemetery grounds, and 10 thousand pounds for the part of the building on bail until the end of the case show the condition of these parts congregation accepts and decides to stay. However, the Municipality, without waiting for the conclusion of the trial, maps prepared by deeds cikarttirip plans to sell these lands. Meanwhile, the court applied for the determination of the land value of the land three years ago, set up a commission to determine the difference between the current value. Suffered the loss of value of the land determined, Mayor, damages, demands, and 3-year total rent. On top of that the Central Land Council, decides to give the Council the land title. Identified in his report to the commission of the Court of the land value in 3 years, it was determined that the loss of 124 thousand pounds. Municipality, or by adding the damage caused by the delay in the consideration of the sale, the Patriarchate and open proxies against the claim for compensation of 180 thousand pounds. Asim Us'un journalist claims that the Patriarchate Sabur Sami Bey puts it together in order to avoid paying the price. Sabur Sami Bey case deterrent city hall, and in return, the cemetery, which will remain in the hands of the Patriarchate of land is part of about 6 thousand m2. His daughter built on the land, in the name of National Reinsurance Administration should commercialize and sell 60 thousand pounds. In the meantime, the cemetery had already been removed and the table in front of the cross and the inscription today Sisli Armenian Cemetery. Cemeteries are not The Foundation then initiated proceedings in the new land, claiming that its results can not. Thus, a years-long affair with the Municipality of the Armenian community, by order of the Ministry of Interior, and the Governor of Istanbul, Beyoglu Muhittin "Ust"undag Arsag three Horan Foundation Board of Directors (Fair) ended with an agreement between Surenyan (a period of Atat"urk who was physician to dental Arsag Surenyan, the former chairman of Galatasaray Faruk S"uren grandfather). 850 thousand square meters of land through the Council, the Patriarchate of 6 thousand square meters of land, and the court costs remains the cost of three thousand two hundred pounds. The basis of the new Istanbul Surp Agop Armenian Cemetery, in spite of all these pursuits and just struggle, are condemned in its entirety in 1939. St. Gregory the Illuminator Church destroyed, the owners of the tomb, tombs, time is allowed for shipments. Then, the cemetery on the sewn in large buildings, Elmadag also begins to take its present form. Many tombstones, designed a new urbanist Henri Prost and Travel Emin"on"u Square Park ladders are used in making repairs. In 1939, the Surp Agop Cemetery case, as a means of power showdown appears again. In this process, the President Ismet In"on"u Muhittin taken in almost dismissed "Ust"undag 'misconduct' case which is the subject of a result does not change the fate of the cemetery. The case on the grounds that the Ministry without notice process, resulting in the supply of "Ust"undag'a 50 pounds penalty. Prof. Mayor from office after Lutfi Kirdar. Fahrettin Kerim G"okay, begins the sale of the land. First guest house on the plot of land about to be sold to Koc Court today, Hilton and Hyatt Regency Hotels, Travel Park, is part of the TRT Istanbul Radio and Harbiye Military Museum. The building blocks of the regime Surp Agop Cemetery case, as a clear case of corruption in front of us. The official ideology of private property, the state radio building blocks, such as the military cemetery laid one by one to get back on today 'legal' point of view is almost impossible. However, by remaining silent in the face of such injustice, usurpation of the obvious can not find peace of mind by covering them. Surp Agop example, even a casual Turkey gayrim"uslimlerinin were left dead, tombstones, which are used in the construction of new examples of Istanbul, Turkey, and the only one that new. Today, we need transparency, face and mouth will be a formal apology, the souls of the inhabitants of the Surp Agop Cemetery allows you to find peace of mind, perhaps ... Maybe, but then you really bury "our dead." Actors in the history of the cemetery seizure Muhittin "Ust"undag Istanbul Governor's Office, CHP Istanbul Provincial Directorate and served as mayor of Istanbul between 1928-1938. acquired an Istanbul Eminonu Square, was built and is known for Tiyatrolari'ni Siirt city regulations. Relatively removed from politics in an era of Ismet In"on"u, received the support of Mustafa Kemal's immediate surroundings, as the President Inonu removed from politics. Urbanist Henri Prost from France in Istanbul as a result of his work on the face of the city changed. Surp Agop Cemetery land is very precious arsasinin "Ust"undag Referring to the plans approved by Prost and the work began. Municipality land 'of bringing' then, who mezartaslariyla Eminonu Square, where allegations of corruption or any other thing of "Ust"undag name. Asri Cemetery in particular draws attention to the issue. Several different cases of irregularities shall be tried but acquitted. According to the journalist, Asim Us'un, this is something that caused the acquittal, the threat of disclosure, availability, because the claims of negligence and corruption are issues which seem to be under the orders from the Interior Minister fi"ukr"u lies in the Rock. Sabur Sami Bey Esrafindandir Kayseri. Was graduated from Political Sciences, and after 1915 he served as governor of Antalya. Armenian massacres is not known whether the active duty, during the proceedings, his "Erzurum, Diyarbakir and in the provinces of Mosul, one Armenian left in Antalya, you still have jobs?" he sent a telegram to Dr. encrypted. By disclosing the offense has fiakir'i bahattin fixing. During his tenure, the Greek craftsmen built and worked battalions that make up the school and the town hall in the town of Serik is currently recognized. History of the Republic, aka corruption and irregularities fixed. First, in 1924, who survived the Holocaust and the Armenians wishing to have goods returned to Turkey in return for money and assistance allegedly issued false documents, including Yunus Nadi, Sword, including famous names such as Ashraf Ali and Rusen 10 with a public officer about the investigation started, the inquest can not be a result. Kaya fi"ukr"u known for its proximity to the Interior Minister Mustafa Kemal change. Asri Cemetery and the Council of Foundations of problem, while assigned to the four referees, peace be included as a referee, in spite of internal medicine to work on behalf of the Ministry of Internal Medicine aldirmasi a car, which broke out at the end of the '30s to the head actor famous bus case, it must have been a result of proximity. Parting of the Ways Kemal Tahir, told in his novel, the Czech ambassador, Falih Rifki Atay came from, they want to open the Skoda factory in Turkey to be representative. Sabur Sami before doing this task, but he adds that it is not one of the influential political as claimed. However, according to Asim Us'a, he lives in America is said to be as famous cheaters insulin Sami Bey, who took office after the Lutfi Kirdar Muhittin "Ust"undag'dan entry is prohibited by the government authorities. Fahrettin Kerim G"okay Istanbul Governor's Office and the Directorate of Municipal done between 1949-1957, the population in this period "Mini mini governor, what will happen Halimiz" dolamasina language has led to rhyme. It is also a doctor of mental disorders, 1939, the National Population Politics Mazhar Osman (Eugenique) Nature of the Issue and has written the book Aryanization have conducted studies on the Turkish race. "People flocked to the beaches, the citizen can not enter the sea," said laf G"okay the date of September 6-7 cases of 'insufficient' had to resign due to remain. When he died, acquired after September 6-7 deed turned out to be 630. These deeds, while there is a disaster in Istanbul, G"okay'in cause 'insufficient' explaining the. Rafiq Ahmed Altinay He was born in 1880 Validecesme'de. After receiving military training in the Military School of Geography, History, French and taught; I. Resigned from the military after World War II. History is known for his research. Although the Unionist claims that the Unionists New Mecmua worked for many years in the newspaper. Talat Pasha, the search warrant on the first post-war published on the earth, is known to be the home island of Buyukada Altinay. At the end of 1918, which is serialized in the newspaper Ikdam 'Two of the Committee and two continents' from a series of articles, Soykirim'a of the 'reciprocity' arguments temellendirse, especially the testimony of what happened in Eskisehir and Krikor Zohrab Circassian Ahmet killer in his interviews with the Vartkes Sereng"ulyan'in terms contain valuable. With the establishment of the Republic, as a historian begins to fall from grace. The cause of the cemetery at the end of 1931 as an expert appointed by the Prime Minister's Archives of the case found that the fate of a single copy of document changes. However, due to lack of support from the Turkish Theory of History humiliated by Mustafa Kemal himself, and even "reverse even if the pen with us not fall!" he warned. University Reform in 1933, in the face of a new university gate closes. Publisher, writes a letter stating that the very cramped in monetary terms, and then, by the Council for his contribution to the cause of the cemetery itself is a gift of a home. In 1937 passed away. Reflected in the funeral of a bumpy relationship with the Republic. However, buried quietly, though, was represented by the ruling Muhittin "Ust"undag and Mahmut Esat Bozkurt. (Agos) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=721_1371163286 VartanZoravar Taksim Gazi Park . Yesterday Armenian graves trees today! Taksim , Turkey , Armenian , dont forget , Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:29:25 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7cc_1371158889 USMC_SRT Recruits of Company B, 1 st Recruit Training Battalion, learned various chokes and counters aboard Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego, June 5. Marine Corps Martial Arts Program instructors with Instructional Training Company, Support Battalion taught recruits different chokes and counters in order to off-balance an opponent and re-gain control during an altercation. The MCMAP session included the proper execution of a figure four variation choke, a rear choke, a counter to a bear hug, counter to a rear choke and counter to a headlock. "These techniques teach how to incapacitate and defend against bigger opponents," said Sgt. Phillip S. Haly, drill instructor, Platoon 1031, Co. B., 1st RTBn. "If techniques are done right it levels the playing field and caters to a smaller fighter." Some recruits come to recruit training with little to no fighting experience, while others arrive with prior martial arts experience. "All these techniques are helpful. It's a good balance of self defense and offense," said Recruit Erik Estrada, guide, Plt. 1030, Co. B, 1st RTBn., who has previous martial arts training. "I like that MCMAP is more technique than raw strength; even something like a wrist lock can snap something." Even though Estrada arrived at recruit training with experience in Taekwondo and boxing, he has not only improved his physical fitness through MCMAP, he's also learned something new. "My dad was in the Marine Corps and showed me a few things but he told me I would learn more here," said 19-year old Estrada. "I didn't know the proper way to use chokes before (recruit training) but now I feel 100 percent capable of using these techniques properly." During the session, drill instructors helped supervise recruits as they executed the newly-learned tan belt syllabus techniques. The tan belt syllabus lays the foundation needed in order to move up in belt levels within the MCMAP program. Recruits can look forward to earning higher belts when they finish initial training and arrive at their first duty station. The five MCMAP belt levels are tan, gray, green, brown and the highest, black. With each belt come new and complex skills. Marines must learn and demonstrate mastery of all MCMAP techniques up to the belt they are testing for in order to pass. Recruits must show proficiency in all tan belt MCMAP techniques as a graduation requirement. They must also learn all other fundamental skills that encompass being a Marine. With six weeks remaining until graduation, recruits of Co. B are getting closer to achieving their goal, earning the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7cc_1371158889 USMC_SRT MCMAP transforms recruits into warriors USMC, Marines, MCMAP, Martial, Arts, Self, Defense Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:37:05 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8f2_1371061970 omniradar Rating Agency Upgrades US Sovereign Credit Rating: Another Propaganda Attempt to Mislead the PublicBy Matthias Chang Global Research, June 12, 2013 Recently, I wrote an article explaining why US Treasury Bonds are junk bonds and why rating agencies cannot be trusted at all, because they have been up to their eyeballs in fraudulent activities. I wrote that what I am stating may seem outlandish but it reflected reality - that the US as well as its ally in crime, the United Kingdom (UK) are bankrupt. Very few economists dare assert such a conclusion because it would be a death sentence for their careers. So, who can you trust anymore? But, does it require so much courage to expose the ugly truth when there are so much evidence to support what I have stated in my articles which can be gathered even from the mainstream media? It was taboo to suggest before the Global Financial Tsunami that America was a bankrupt state and does not deserve an AAA rating. Yet, it took a rating agency from China in early 2011 to break the taboo, China's Dagong credit rating agency says the U.S has already defaulted. As AFP reports: "'In our opinion, the United States has already been defaulting... Washington had already defaulted on its loans by allowing the dollar to weaken against other currencies - eroding the wealth of creditors including China, Mr Guan said." This follows on the heels of German credit rating agency Feri's downgrade of U.S. bonds a full notch - from AAA to AA - saying: "The U.S. government has fought the effects of the financial market crisis primarily by an increase in government debt. We do not see that there is sufficient attention being paid to other measures," said Dr. Tobias Schmidt, CEO of Feri Rating & Research AG. "Our rating system shows a deterioration in economic health, so the downgrading of the credit ratings of U.S. is warranted." I would suggest that Dagong and Feri were rather generous in their rating for obvious reasons (China being one of the largest creditor cannot afford to trigger an immediate collapse of US bonds). If a country has defaulted, its credit standing cannot be rated as AAA. It is a junk debtor, no two ways about it! If Joe Six-Packs defaults on a loan, no banks, credit-card companies etc. would extend further credit facilities. Period! In November, 2011, the Guardian reported as follows: Dagong, which has maintained a pessimistic outlook on US fiscal policy, has been leading the charge to downgrade US debt over the last 12 months, lowering the US rating from AA to A+ a year ago. In August it downgraded US debt again, to A. Days later, Standard & Poor's followed in its wake, becoming the first western agency to downgrade US debt after the threat of a default was narrowly avoided following weeks of political squabbling in Washington over whether President Obama should be allowed to raise the US debt ceiling. So, why are the so-called economists so reluctant to tell the simple truth? Why are these economists not writing articles to expose the ugly truth and save Joe Six-Packs from having their hard-earned money from being wiped out by inflation and confiscations etc.? The reason is simple. They have sold their souls. And this cowardice is unforgivable because the taboo has already been broken - two agencies have exposed the reality. So, is my article stating that US Treasury Bonds are junk bonds really that outlandish?? Even the S&P down- graded the US albeit not to junk status! The above downgradings were made even before the massive QEs by Bernanke. The financial status has not changed for the better since the down- grades, in fact it has gotten worse and have caused panics and dissension within the ranks of the financial elites. Bloomberg reported that, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas President Richard Fisher, one of the most vocal critics of quantitative easing by the central bank, called for a reduction in the $85 billion in monthly asset purchases while saying he sees an end to a three-decade bull market in bonds. In an interview with Forbes, Alan Greenspan, former FED Governor said, We have at this particular stage a fiat money which is essentially money printed by a government and it's usually a central bank which is authorized to do so. Some mechanism has got to be in place that restricts the amount of money which is produced, either a gold standard or a currency board, because unless you do that all of history suggest that inflation will take hold with very deleterious effects on economic activity... There are numbers of us, myself included, who strongly believe that we did very well in the 1870 to 1914 period with an international gold standard." Given the fact that US cannot mathematically repay its debts at all in the next fifty years, how can any reasonable man and or economist not conclude that the US Treasury Bonds are indeed junk bonds? If anyone still believes in the fancy economic fairytale dished out by presstitudes, financial harlots etc. they deserve to be wiped out. The situation gets more absurd as only a few days ago, the S&P rating agency upgraded US from negative to stable because: Under our criteria, the credit strengths of the U.S. include its resilient economy, its monetary credibility, and the U.S. dollar's status as the world's key reserve currency. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8f2_1371061970 omniradar US Treasury Bonds are Junk Bonds? Is America Defaulting on Its Sovereign Debt? Fraud, Wall St, Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:59:01 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5bf_1371047909 Spike__69 A EUROPEAN UNION handbook setting out migrants' rights to benefits, asylum and avoiding deportation was last night condemned as a "disgrace". By: Macer Hall Critics say the new EU booklet will encourage more migrants to the UK The taxpayer-funded document - free on the internet - was published yesterday as the "first comprehensive guide" to border and immigration rules across the EU. It details the rights of asylum seekers and other migrants to enter and settle in EU nations including Britain and how to go about launching legal action against removal attempts by national authorities. In a list of examples of past cases, it even cites Islamist cleric Abu Qatada's successful -challenge under human rights laws against Home Office attempts to send him back to -Jordan to face terror charges. Tim Aker, of the anti-Brussels campaign group Get Britain Out, said: "This booklet is a disgrace. We are facing cuts and yet the EU gives EU migrants a handbook on how to settle in the UK and claim from the welfare state according to human rights and EU legislation. It's not on. "Obviously this will encourage more uncontrolled migration to the UK and inflate the numbers we can expect from Bulgaria and Romania next year. The only way to regain control of our national borders and control immigration is to leave the EU as soon as we can." Critics warned that the 253-page handbook, which is published in 11 languages, would encourage more foreigners to head for a new life in the UK. Tory MP Peter Bone said: "This is a complete waste of taxpayers' money. It shows exactly why we should have nothing to do with this corrupt, inefficient and bureaucratic super-state." Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party, said: "The publication of this guide at this time is a predictably cloth-eared act by the European Union. It will act as a further encouragement to those who wish to come to the UK from countries, and more importantly will be used as a guide by those wishing not to be deported from the UK after arrival." Nigel Farage said the booklet will be used as a guide by those wishing not to be deported from UK This booklet is a disgrace. We are facing cuts and yet the EU gives EU migrants a handbook on how to settle in the UK and claim from the welfare state according to human rights and EU legislation. It's not on Tim Aker, of the anti-Brussels campaign group Get Britain Out The Handbook On European Law Relating To -Asylum, Borders And Immigration is jointly published by Brussels-based quango the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights and the Registry of the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. It is aimed at lawyers, police, border guards, immigration officials and any organisations dealing with immigration law. Among the topics included are "access to asylum procedures, procedural safeguards and legal support in asylum and return cases, detention and restrictions to freedom of movement, forced returns, and economic and social rights." It also sets out how, under the European Social Charter, migrants are entitled to seek a welter of benefits from their host country. One passage points out that: "The ESC grants a right to housing, which acts as a gateway to a series of additional rights." A Brussels spokeswoman said it was "complete nonsense" to suggest the handbook would encourage migrants to head to EU countries. In many cases, it would help authorities make swifter immigration decisions and tell potential migrants they had no right to stay and order them to leave, she said. Morten Kjaerum, director of the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights, said: "This handbook offers, in a user friendly manner, information and assistance to practitioners in the field, improving the rights situation of migrants and asylum seekers in the EU." Officials yesterday declined to disclose how much the guide cost to produce. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5bf_1371047909 Spike__69 Outrage as new European Union immigration guide helps migrants claim British benefits. Migrants, Immigrants, Uk, Benefits, Parasites, Europe, Brussels,Asylum, Booklet. Tue, 11 Jun 2013 02:20:38 -0400 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e9_1370930822 Ham_Sandwich27 ...won't even catch up with a gaming PC that would have been considered bare-bones in 2010. Xbox One vs. PS4 vs. PC: How the hardware specs compare http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare With just two weeks until E3, Microsoft has finally shown off the Xbox One. Unlike Sony, which is being very mysterious with its PS4, we now have a fairly good idea of the hardware inside the Xbox One. This isn't to say that we know everything about the Xbox One, but, as with the PS4, we know enough to corroborate the specs that have leaked over the last few months. We can now say with some certainty that the Xbox One and PS4 are powered by very similar hardware: The CPUs are probably identical, the GPUs are only slightly different, and while there are underlying differences to the memory subsystem, they will ultimately have very similar performance and game visuals. For a detailed discussion of how the PS4's hardware compares to the Xbox One and gaming PCs, read on.From Microsoft's mouth, we know that the Xbox One (formerly known as the Xbox 720) has an 8-core AMD CPU with 8GB of DDR3 RAM, a 500GB hard drive, HDMI in/out, USB 3.0, and Gigabit Ethernet. For more detailed specs, we must look towards the latest info from the games development sector, which has been programming Xbox One games since last year and thus has intimate knowledge of the hardware. The latest leaks suggest that the Xbox One will have an 8-core 64-bit x86 Jaguar AMD CPU @ 1.6GHz, coupled with a GPU that's very close to the Radeon HD 7790 . The Xbox One will have 68GB/sec of bandwidth between the CPU/GPU and RAM, the GPU will have 102GB/s of bandwidth to a local 32MB SRAM cache, and another 30GB/s of bandwidth to gamepads, Kinect, and other peripherals. Xbox One hardware diagram. Note the ports on the back. The PS4, in comparison, has an 8-core Jaguar AMD CPU , with a GPU that's around the same level as the Radeon 7870 (which is significantly more powerful than the 7790). The PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, providing 176GB/s of bandwidth to both the CPU and GPU. The Xbox One mostly ameliorates this difference with 32MB of high-speed SRAM on the GPU, but it will be a more complex architecture to take advantage of.In both consoles, the CPU and GPU will be on the same die (an AMD APU ). Just as the PS4 has 8GB of high-speed memory that is shared by the CPU and GPU, the Xbox One - by virtue of being based on the same APU heterogeneous system architecture (HSA) - will probably be the same. In short, while there are small hardware differences between the consoles, they will ultimately have very similar performance characteristics. The PS4, with its one, big block of fast RAM, and bigger GPU, probably has the edge.It's a little bit harder to compare the Xbox One's Kinect 2.0 with the PlayStation 4 Eye. From what we know so far, the Xbox One sounds like it has the edge on movement tracking and gesture controls. We should know more at E3, when Sony finally reveals a few more details about the PlayStation 4 Eye. Finally, the last piece of hardware that we can compare between the Xbox One and PS4 is the gamepad. As we have already covered in some detail, the PS4's DualShock 4 controller is really quite spectacular . There's built-in movement tracking, so the console can track who's holding each controller, a built-in speaker (like the Wiimote), and a multitouch touchpad. The Xbox One gamepad, in comparison, is basically just a refined version of the Xbox 360 gamepad. The only new feature seems to be Impulse Triggers - which are normal triggers, but with a rumble function built in. The PS4 controller definitely seems to have a richer feature set, but in practice the most important thing will be which controller you prefer to hold.In comparison to a modern PC, you can probably guess how the Xbox One and PS4 compare. There's no direct comparison for the 8-core Jaguar CPU - AMD's own parts based on the Jaguar core, Kabini and Temash, are quad-core parts destined for ultrathins and tablets. From leaked benchmarks, the Jaguar core is around 10% faster than its predecessor (Bobcat). A dual-core Brazos (Bobcat core) about 10 times slower than the latest Ivy Bridge parts, in a very naive comparison. So, all in all, an 8-core Jaguar might manage about half the performance of a current-gen Core i7. The GPU comparison is easier: The Radeon 7790 is a $150 card.In short, then, today's PCs will stomp all over the Xbox One (and PS4) in terms of raw computation power. In terms of gamepads and other peripherals, the Kinect 2.0 will also come to the PC (though Microsoft hasn't given a timeline yet) - and, presumably, as with the Xbox 360, you should be able to use the Xbox One gamepad with your PC. With some hacking, you should be able to use the PS4's gamepad with your PC, too. It's not how big it is; it's what you do with itAnother way of looking at the Xbox One and PS4, though, is their power relative to their predecessors. In terms of raw, synthetic performance, the Xbox 360 could churn out around 300 gigaflops; the PS3 was around 400 gigaflops. The Xbox One and PS4, however, should both be above two teraflops - about six times more powerful than their predecessors. Remember, the output resolution (1920x1080) is unlikely to change - so, with six times more power, we're looking at a significant improvement to image quality.Using teraflops as a stand-in for real-world performance, though, to quote our hardware analyst Joel Hruska, is like "giving the fuel efficiency of a car going downhill with an 80 mph tailwind on helium-inflated tires." What it ultimately comes down to is how efficiently developers use the hardware - and in that regard, we have high hopes. With the shift to x86, and a GPU architecture (AMD's GCN) that's well known, developers will be able to hit the ground running. Compare this to the Cell CPUs at the heart of the Xbox 360 and PS3, which took years for developers to fully understand. It's also important to remember that, in recent years, there has been a fundamental shift away from games that do the bulk of their computation on the CPU, to programs that use the CPU to offload computation to the (much more powerful) GPU. With the Xbox 360 and PS3, both consoles had a monstrous Cell-based CPU and an equally large GPU - the PS4 and Xbox One, on the other hand, have wimpy, many-core CPUs and much larger GPUs. With both consoles moving to fill more of a media center/set-top box role, rather than focusing on gaming, we can foresee those cores being dedicated to background tasks, such as downloading updates or listening for voice commands. Ultimately, this will come down to the software - and while we have quite a few details on the Xbox One's software , we know almost nothing about the PS4.Ultimately, with both the Xbox One and PS4 having such similar hardware, real-world performance differences will probably come down to how well the consoles make use of those eight CPU cores, GPU offloading, and differences in the memory subsystem. It's also important to bear in mind that a huge speed-up is available when developing games for a fixed platform with known performance/latency characteristics. Realistically, we wouldn't be surprised if games on the Xbox 720 and PS4, just like the current generation, look very similar. Likewise, games will probably look better on consoles for a few years, and then PCs will probably pull back ahead. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e9_1370930822 Ham_Sandwich27 PS4 & XBox1 already woefully obsolete - months before their release Computers, Playstation, XBox, PS4, Obsolete before release PC,