Fire and Ice: The Winter War of Finland and Russia
(Ok, last night my Chrome browser f-ed up this upload five freaking times!
Hope everything works now, fingers crossed...
This time it's in 6 parts, please don't mind the quality.)
Casualties and losses:
Finland:
25,904 dead or missing[F 7][14]
43,557 wounded[15]
1,000 captured[F 8][16]
957 civilians in air raids[14]
20–30 tanks
62 aircraft[17]
70,000 total casualties
Soviet Union:
126,875 dead or missing[18][F 9]
188,671 wounded, injured or burned[18]
5,572 captured[20]
3,543 tanks[F 10][21][22][23]
261–515 aircraft[F 11][23][24]
323,000 total casualties
More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
Added: Jul-26-2012 Occurred On: Nov-30-1939
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Amazing stuff! The Finns demolished the Soviets leading one Soviet general to remark when told of the huge territory taken that it was "just enough territory to bury our dead."
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByTriode (464.30) 
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@shefti They didn't, they still lost land and got their asses kicked a few years later.
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByGXst (559.06) 
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The finnish looked at the aftermath in that the still managed to be an independent country and to them that in it self was a victory.
Posted Jul-27-2012 ByWiromax (200.24) 
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@shefti kickass trend continued very well in continuation war, in 1944 soviets launched a massive invasion bigger than Normandy d-day operations to take down finland, and they were annihilated.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByLeopardi (670.84) 
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thanks for reminding me.
Posted Jul-26-2012 Byfookalah (702.30) 
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No problem.
Posted Jul-27-2012 ByWiromax (200.24) 
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This is why we love our finnish neighbors. they know how to take out the trash.
Haven't watched the vids yet, so not sure if this is mentioned but here's a wonderful piece of trivia for you to impress your friends with:
Finland and England are the only two democracies in all of history that have declared war on each other.
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByKasmackba (368.38) Kasmackba View Channel Send Message
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@Kasmackba
As part of the Continuation War?
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByWiromax (200.24) 
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yepp... technicly speaking finland was at war with the soviet union and by extention their allies, the British.
Allthough it was just a formality, no british soldiers were ever sent in support of the russian forces.
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByKasmackba (368.38) Kasmackba View Channel Send Message
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Russian won this war... Finland gave to Russian the earth which by Finland grasped at Russian several centuries ago... Stalin not Russian.... Russian wouldn't attack Finland... But it was so necessary for Stalin... Stalin hated Finland and Poland at that time
Posted Jul-26-2012 Bywhiter (210.60) 
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Actually in three months, Russian lost more than 60000 people. instead of 126000 people...
This statistics is provided by Finland....
Actually: 126,875 dead of Russian Finland counted the killed since 1939, till 1945. "Winter War" lasted three months... further there was World War II... And Hitler attacked Stalin... Because of it from 1941 to 1945 Germany and Italy helped Finland
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You missed addition to statistics:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Советско-финская_война_(1939—1940)
"google translate"
Casualties and losses:
Finland:
25 904 killed
+71 214 it is killed and died at stages of sanitary evacuation (missing persons)
+16 292 died of wounds and diseases in hospitals
25904 + 71214 + 16292 = 113410
TOTAL: For three months of war,
Finland lost more than 113.410 killed...
Russian lost more than 60.000 soldiers + more than 40.000 died in More..
Posted Jul-26-2012 Bywhiter (210.60) 
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@whiter
The statistics come from the english side of Wikipedia.
Use the link provided above the videos.
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByWiromax (200.24) 
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@Wiromax Those 26000 dead are official number released right after the war. Historians think the number to be ten-fold.
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByGXst (559.06) 
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@GXst
Ok, thank you.
Posted Jul-27-2012 ByWiromax (200.24) 
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@GXst
it is more often than not, like that in the official histories of countries.
fact it, it impossible to know.
very sad, every fallen soldier.
old men kill many young men by remote as if they are pawns.
Posted Dec-3-2012 Byjen8933 (1052.36) jen8933 View Channel Send Message
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Finnish SISU! ;D
The war was really hard on the men fighting the war. My grandfather hung himself because of it (a few years after)
Posted Jul-26-2012 ByEra (9.00) 
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@Era
was it Post-traumatic stress disorder?
Sorry for your loss.
Posted Jul-27-2012 ByWiromax (200.24) 
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@Wiromax Don't know, never met the guy. My father was 13 when he found him in the garage.
Posted Aug-14-2012 ByEra (9.00) 
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@Era so it was =( my both grandfathers were medics. Hope it wont ever never happen again
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByEMAG-K (518.12) EMAG-K View Channel Send Message
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@Era
my father was a paratrooper during the japanese american conflict ww2. he was a mess.
all wars have unreconized and silent sufferers.
he was an abusive alcoholic but i cannot accuse him of being 'bad', he was scarred and sworn to secrecy about events he had experienced.
it's always tragic on the individual and on the massive scale. war is hell.
Posted Dec-3-2012 Byjen8933 (1052.36) jen8933 View Channel Send Message
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the bigger more powerful nations have still not taken heed of the wills of a smaller nations to remain themselves. it may be flawed, as is afganistan, but it still wants it's autonomy.
history continues to repeat itself.
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