Saudi Sheikh; Arab/World Can Only Improve By Learning From Western Civilisation
A pretty intresting concession from this Saudi Cleric
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Added: Aug-23-2012 Occurred On: Aug-23-2012
By: ElegantDecline
In: Politics, Other Middle East, Religion
Tags: Arabs, Civilisation, History, Ambition
Location: Saudi Arabia (load item map)
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Views: 1143 | Comments: 89 | Votes: 5 | Favorites: 5 | Shared: 7 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 2
By: ElegantDecline
In: Politics, Other Middle East, Religion
Tags: Arabs, Civilisation, History, Ambition
Location: Saudi Arabia (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 1143 | Comments: 89 | Votes: 5 | Favorites: 5 | Shared: 7 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 2
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Imagine if more Arabs and other Muslim peoples thought like this, the world would be completely different. Is so nice to hear at last someone from the Arabs speak sense!!!
I forgot the name of this gentleman, there is another video of him, in which he's interviewed and stated that "Arabs have nothing to offer others. They left the Arabian peninsula in order to conquer and not to learn from others; they (Arabs) think that others have to learn from them, which is a delusion and this mentalit More..
Posted Aug-23-2012 Byconservative hispanic (944.30) 
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Alot of Muslims think this way actually. They are just not given opportunities to be able to accomplish their goals.
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByAK551 (78.60) 
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@AK551 That's the perrenial problem in most societies these days...
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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They're the exception to the rule, your silly religious leaders continue to perpetuate hatred and stupidity for the whole muslim world.
Posted Aug-24-2012 Byconservative hispanic (944.30) 
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Our leader is currently not here. Our leader is waiting
Posted Aug-24-2012 ByAK551 (78.60) 
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Saudis dont speak to Muslims. They worship the almighty $
Posted Aug-24-2012 ByAK551 (78.60) 
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i am shocked and stunned!! here is an intelligent Saudi Sheik that is not afraid to speak the truth!! its a real shame that there are not many more like him, and i wonder how much he has placed his life in danger by expressing his opinion, a very brave man indeed !!
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bystorm_seal (268.60) 
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Basically
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByBlklight (1876.56) 
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Makes sense, glad to see people in middle East that understand the philosophy of collaboration and mutual benefit based on free choice of individuals rather than the ideology.
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bygrindkore (174.40) 
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I like people like you. People who use their brains and are not ignorant
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByBlklight (1876.56) 
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Unfortuantely its not common as we hope for and i think this is lip service...
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByAxisofEvil (555.38) 
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@AxisofEvil Why do you think its lipservice?
The guy's putting in his views on the line
Maybe it suits you better if they all talk like Zawahiri
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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No I know there are good muslims around....but doesn;t mean much when the ruling class and their hand picked mullahs say otherwise. His view will resonate with some but there are too many backward thinking types to hinder any effective change.
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByAxisofEvil (555.38) 
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Now that is an educated Arab.
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bydbm4891 (47.50) 
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@dbm4891 You don't even know what Arab means!
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arab means
scumbag of the earth
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByAiredale (2614.36) 
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@Airedale It means; another uneducated illiterate dumbass American!
And how can they be the scum of the earth when the Caucasians polluted the whole planet?
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bywaistedawayishe (34.00) waistedawayishe Send Message
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The old way was if you spoke Arabic you were an Arab. Not sure how they define it now though
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByBlklight (1876.56) 
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@Blklight It's a Hebrew word which means: mixed multitude.
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bywaistedawayishe (34.00) waistedawayishe Send Message
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Something tells me they'll be issuing a fatwa against this Saudi cleric.
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bydarkglobe (176.04) 
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Maybe so. But at least he has the balls to get up and say what others in their society are thinking but too scared to say for fear of the type of retribution you are talking about. He is not the only arab like that but they are all scared to say what they are thinking
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByBlklight (1876.56) 
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It was never aired in all likelyhood
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByAiredale (2614.36) 
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@Blklight Totally agree with you
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bydarkglobe (176.04) 
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@Blklight No, you're instincts are right. He is the norm amongst the educated in the Arab world
There's is no Fatwa,he has not been killed and there are plenty of others hitting the same drum...
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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great guy, lets hope they don't lynch him.
imagine if he would have mentioned that islam is the main reason of their backwardness. he would be a dead man... im pretty sure they are aware of this issue. modernization and straight islam isn't conform. everybody knows it but no one talks about it, cause no one wants his head chopped off.
kinda twisted, lol.
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bymau5trap (147.30) 
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Holy fucking shit! Watching this was like a breath of fresh air....
I'm not saying they need to put a McDonald's and Starbucks on every street corner, but they can't keep thinking they're so superior in their ways when the rest of the "modern" world looks at them like they're a bunch of backwards ass, intolerant asses who have horrible human rights records.
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bymedainbramaged (515.40) 
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wonder if they're about to be killed.
translation for real?
wow
Posted Aug-23-2012 Bythe_MEK (682.70) 
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@the_MEK He's a member of the Shura Council...not getting killed any time soon
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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Looks like the first honest assessment and admission of western superiority by an Islamism. Let’s hope the rest of them get on the bandwagon.
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByEvilDeed (90.78) 
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More ignorance. Yes this guy is the only Muslim saying this. Out of 1 billion people. Why do I even bother with you people?? That's a rhetorical question btw
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByBlklight (1876.56) 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Al-Buleihi
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Only a wiki-link, but as such, it does seem this guy is legit.
This guy needs to be made world-famous so that when his own people kills him, (of this I have little doubt), his ideas becomes immortal.
Posted Aug-24-2012 ByYammo (82.04) 
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Funny! The guy starts out with the idea that the Arabs are 'backward', proceeds to make all his other points and at the very end the interviewer says "so you say we suffer from backwardness?" - like it took him the whole interview to have that one concept finally sink in...
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByAlly_Gator (498.90) 
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@Ally_Gator He's really struggling with that one
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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I fell of my chair.
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByBawbag (762.70) 
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In other news, a Cleric was executed in public..
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByYNN (23.50) 
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Is this translation correct?!
If so, this is the first time I have ever thought Islam could ever have a place in a modern, civilized society...
I fear, however, that this guy will be killed for being a Heretic. :/
Posted Aug-24-2012 ByYammo (82.04) 
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I call BS
the sunni clerics beg to differ and they are on the Saudi payroll.
Changs starts at the top
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByAiredale (2614.36) 
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@Airedale A silly comment...
Posted Aug-23-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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