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"A new figure in humanity's history emerged last week when archaeologists announced the discovery of what could be one of the world's oldest known spiritual figures. After years of meticulous excavation just miles from Israel's Mediterranean coast, scientists from the Institute of Archaeology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem unearthed a 12,000-year-old grave that held the remains of a diminutive "shaman" woman. Buried alongside the woman's small, huddled corpse were selected pieces of animal bone, a cowtail, an eagle wing, the foot of another human, and, most curiously, some fifty tortoise shells deliberately arranged around the woman's body — all tell-tale signs, experts say, of her lofty social status at the time. "This is something very special; it stands apart," says Leore Grosman, the project's lead archaeologist.
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How mankind emerged from Paleolithic prehistory into a world of alphabets and cities is still a story riddled with questions. Even the first settled agriculturalist communities from which our records begin seem far removed from the cave-dwelling, fur-clad hunter-gatherers whom we imagine to be mankind's ancestors. The discovery of a shaman this ancient offers a startling glimpse into this little-known past, a portrait of prehistoric ritual belief and of clear lines of social hierarchy taking shape.
The grave is thought to belong to the Natufian culture, a nomadic society which existed along the eastern Mediterranean roughly between 11,500 and 15,000 years ago. Located near other burial sites, the woman's body was distinctly encased in a limestone enclosure, a tomb sealed by a rock slab that Grosman's team managed to lift in 2006. The following two years were spent painstakingly analyzing the remains found within. Pieces of jewelry, ornamental seashells, or the odd tool have been found in other Natufian graves, but the careful arrangement of the woman's body — her back rested against a wall, legs spread and bent inward from the knee — as well as the surrounding ring of tortoise shells piqued the archaeologists' interest. "This kind of assemblage is different from everything you find elsewhere," says Ofer Bar-Yosef, a Harvard anthropologist who has worked on previous Natufian excavations. "It's the sign of a sort of elite emerging among hunter-gatherers."
Shamans are mystics whose common function in traditional cultures was that of a healer. Analysis of the woman's remains date her as being 45-years-old, a significant age at a time when life was nasty, brutish and short. She was under five feet tall and deformities in her spinal and pelvic bones give the impression that she may have walked with a limp, or dragged her feet. The presence of the hollowed-out tortoise shells, combined with intact bone pieces of leopards and other creatures — the complete forearm of a wild boar, for example, was placed under the woman's own arm — suggest that those living around her believed she had some sort of animist power.
The common narrative of mankind's development generally starts with humans planting crops and settling down in one place to reap what they sow, founding villages that would form the building blocks of human civilization. But further study of the Natufian culture and other parallel societies, such as those living by China's Yellow River, is complicating that belief. Agriculture was not established in the Levant when the Natufians lived there, but they still erected rudimentary structures to inhabit. Traces in the soil of the remains of mice and sparrows — animals that exist most commonly in places of human settlement — point to a significant population boom in the Natufian period. They may not have had seasonal harvests, but the people of this time lived in a complex and perhaps even flourishing society. "What we see [with the Natufian burial rites] is the beginning of a tribal system," says Bar-Yosef. The shaman, buried with her mysteries, looms mercurially over this moment.
Grosman speculates that the elaborate ritual behind the shaman's burial probably helped bind people together at a time of great social transformation. The Natufian culture, she says, was "transitional," moving from the era of the nomadic life of hunter-gatherers into a more stable, sedentary mode. Their descendants were likely the inhabitants of West Asia's great kingdoms of antiquity. Somewhere beneath our vision of sceptered monarchs in their pillared palaces, it can be surmised, rests a hobbled woman upon a bed of tortoise shells."

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nice find
Posted Nov-11-2008 ByBobbyHill666 (94.22) 
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I know... I'm a student of Christian Theology and Biblical studies, and I'll tell you right now that there's no way in hell that this planet is only 5000 years old. The Genesis accounts of Creation are NOT meant to be taken literally. The way in which the accounts are given--if you read them the way the authors wanted people to read it--are meant to just convey that the Judaeo-Christian God created the universe. By no means was the author attempting to give a scientific explanation of how things More..
Posted Nov-11-2008 ByConcepitigne (10.24) Concepitigne View Channel Send Message
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I love it the way nothing in the bible is supposed to be taken literally anymore, all the information is wrong, oh, then we've got to read meanings into it ... right. Wake up and smell the coffee, Joe, the bible is a well edited compilation of the ravings of desert lunatics. Adam and Eve never existed, the world's not flat, there is no god, and the story of Jesus is the story of a murdered jewish prince that got blown way out of proportion, kinda like King Arthur's story did.
Posted Nov-11-2008 Bymichael567 (1930.00) michael567 View Channel Send Message
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...and still there are people who think the world is only 5000 years old, that the bible is a true account of history, and that there is an afterlife.
Posted Nov-11-2008 Bycab10886 (25.34) 
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except perhaps the creation part.
Posted Nov-11-2008 ByMeevinman (173.94) 
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Isn't it funny how grave robbing is ok as long as you take very careful notes and document exactly how you steal everything...
Posted Nov-11-2008 ByEpitope (653.06) Epitope Send Message
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Exactly.
Posted Nov-11-2008 Byjuiceysecs (94.76) 
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Im telling you guys, the world is 5002 yrs old. Jesus told me lastnite in my dream where we were floating around in the clouds and smoking weed.
Posted Nov-11-2008 Bydamo1982 (99.32) damo1982 View Channel Send Message
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Well, if you go into a church and observe the artwork that supposedly portrais Jesus' image... he did look like a hippie, what's more, he behaved like a hippie, sticking it to the man and his established system!
So I'm sure that if the man did exists, he would have been a sort of pothead. How else can you explain the ramblings of 'I am the son of God'?
Posted Nov-12-2008 Bycab10886 (25.34) 
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The bible, just like every other religious text out there is a manual that attempts to tell you how to live your life. These texts may have some historical truth to it but are mostly fictional tales.
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