Police Kill Wrong Man In Middle Of The Night In His Own Home
I guess you could say he was standing his ground.
An innocent man was shot dead by police after deputies mistook him for an attempted murder suspect. Lake County, Florida officers showed up at the Blueberry Hill apartment of Andrew Scott at around 1.30am on Sunday Roused from his bed in the middle of the night by an unknown presence at his property, Andrew Scott answered the door holding a gun. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174381/Andrew-Scott-Outrage-police-s...
Added: Jul-17-2012 Occurred On: Jul-17-2012
By: Tyrone_Biggums
In: Other News
Tags: police, florida, stand your ground, lake county
Location: Florida, United States (load item map)
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By: Tyrone_Biggums
In: Other News
Tags: police, florida, stand your ground, lake county
Location: Florida, United States (load item map)
Marked as: approved
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Let's see if we can find anything inside here that would justify what we just did. Let's assassinate this man's character that we just killed.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByTheGlenn (185.36) TheGlenn View Channel Send Message
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@TheGlenn Yeah why after shooting him did the even have the right to search the apartment?
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByDeakion2008 (278.92) Deakion2008 View Channel Send Message
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@Deakion2008 Apparently, if you kill the owner, you dont need a warrant.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Byheydoin (170.54) heydoin View Channel Send Message
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@heydoin So convenient! Then you can plant drugs and say the dead man was a drug addict.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bykhamomil (1613.74) 
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@heydoin yeah it would be a crime scene at that point, unfortunately the people checking the scene also murdered the victim...
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByDeakion2008 (278.92) Deakion2008 View Channel Send Message
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@TheGlenn
I think him pointing a gun at them is justification enough.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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They found drugs in his apartment...
They dealt with him before....
In no way does this justify or minimalize these law enforcement personnel's actions.
They failed to follow proper protocols and a man paid for it with his life.
And for that, they have to answer.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByHiarken (574.04) 
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@Hiarken Yeah it's funny how the cops said, "had he not had a gun" as people were banging on his door at 1:30 in the AM, he wouldn't have been shot?!?!?!?!?!? Are you fucking kidding me? And what drugs did he have that justified them shooting him.....those pigs are pussy footing around why they fucked up. The guys that shot him will end up with paid suspensions and get to keep their jobs.....un-be-fucking-lievable
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByDeakion2008 (278.92) Deakion2008 View Channel Send Message
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@Hiarken It's like they are trying to find an extenuating circ. for killing him even tho neighbors say he was a good person. And if they knew him already they have even less excuse for knocking on his door instead of the other guy's.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bykhamomil (1613.74) 
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@khamomil Yeah, sad ain't it?
Understand something, I respect good law enforcement officers, but shit like this fucks with an already tough duty.
It makes good cops look bad, and gets them killed.
Posted Jul-18-2012 ByHiarken (574.04) 
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Guilty until proven innocent.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bypaperboy (306.00) 
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wtf man, Knocking on a mans door at o' dark stupid in the morning probally scared the shit out of him. Of course he would answer the door with a gun if he had one. Who goes around knocking on a persons door that early in the morning. stupid cops should have said they where cops, poor guy probally thought they where going to rob him or something. his family should sue the fuck out of those douche bag cops.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bycdnspr (114.14) 
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Or he could have called the cops and not answered the door with a gun in his hand.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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@Captain Canuck ok so your gonna call the cops every time somebody knocks on your door? The cops should have said they where cops. This happened in quebec afew years ago. The cops decided to raid a local drug dealer at 4 in the morning. They burst through the door without saying shit and one of them was killed by the drug dealer becuase he thought a rival was out to get him. He got away with it becuase the cops dident say they where cops.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bycdnspr (114.14) 
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@cdnspr
Ok so you're gonna grab a gun every time somebody knocks on your door?
You really see a connection with officers bursting through a door unannounced and two officers knocking on a door? Seriously?
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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@Captain Canuck well you should grab a gun if somebody knocks on your door at 1:30 in the morning. God knows who it could be. In any case the cops should have stated they where cops while knocking, or bursting through the door.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bycdnspr (114.14) 
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Of course! What reasonable person wouldn't grab a gun and go answer the door?
So you're sticking with not calling the police when someone knocks at your door at 1:30? You're soooo afraid of who might be knocking that you are willing to grab a gun, but not call the police?
Like I said in a previous comment, the officers were looking for someone who attempted to murder a guy. They don't know what weapons he has access to. You really think the officers should announce who they are s More..
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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it's ok everyone...we sprinkled some crack on him
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bydietcokesucks (1003.30) 
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@dietcokesucks Well said Dave C.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bybotool (45.04) 
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Murder by police. Those who fired shots should spend a minimum of 10 years in prison. ALL police forces should revise the policy of surprising criminals in the night so that this does not happen.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByYukon6400 (1011.22) Yukon6400 View Channel Send Message
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@Yukon6400 You know, this is exactly what this was. They failed to identify themselves and then shoot the guy for holding a gun. It is not that hard to think that they could (and maybe should) be charged with murder because they had weapons drawn showing intent. Either way they slice it, they either murdered a guy or they are shitty cops...neither of which should be allowed to work in law enforcement.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Byhuey2323 (219.14) 
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@Yukon6400
Good point. Calling them on the phone first is always the most efficient way to catch people wanted for attempted murder. The officers should have called ahead and made an appointment.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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@Captain Canuck
Is that the only alternative you can think of? It used to be that innocent life was valued such that it was better to let a guilty man go free than to imprison, execute, or harm an innocent man. Such value placed on life has been displaced by a rabid call for police action. Let's hope the policy makers who will or should be sued by all innocent people shot and killed by police have a greater imagination than you do.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByYukon6400 (1011.22) Yukon6400 View Channel Send Message
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Come on man! The guy goes to the door with a gun in his hand and confronts two cops who were looking for an attempted murder suspect, and you're shocked that he was shot? Really?
How about this? The guy picks up the phone and calls the police instead of opening the door with a gun in his hands. Is that imaginative enough for you?
The officers are looking for someone who just attempted to murder another person. They don't know what weapons the suspect may have access to. They More..
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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Damn shame... Poor guy did what I might have done in the same situation. Protecting his family and property...
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByRAMSEY44 (648.04) 
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this is typical, dumbass cops out on a power trip ready to shoot anything in sight. they were looking for a gunfight thats why they never id'd themselves. i hate how they have to try and put down the guy that was killed by saying he had drugs in the apartment and that he came to the door with a gun pointing. if someone is banging on my door at 1:30 in the morning you better believe i will have my gun in hand. all this is going to turn into is saying that citizens shouldnt be able to have guns More..
Posted Jul-17-2012 Byjake3223 (61.20) 
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again, why open the fucking door at all if you think you'll need a gun for what is on the other side? how about yell "i have a gun, who the fuck is it?"
right and dead is the same as wrong and dead. if you are going to own a gun, use some common fucking sense with it.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Byuschairforcesgt (552.50) 
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@uschairforcesgt holding a gun makes people feel invincible for some reason...fire an AK on full auto, and tell me you dont feel like a boss even for a split second :p
Posted Jul-17-2012 By8fl0z (92.20) 
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@8fl0z i have a dozen or so guns, everything from a pellet gun to a 12 gauge, ak, and i just bought my second M4 last week. ill be just as dead as anyone if i get myself shot for being careless. ive had a shit ton of cqb training and i would never consider purposely walking out into a situation that i would need a gun in hand for. the best defense is to stay out of those situations.
lets say the guys outside were armed robbers, instead of cops. he would be just as dead. never open a door that More..
Posted Jul-17-2012 Byuschairforcesgt (552.50) 
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Who answers the door with a gun? Someone who sells drugs does. But naturally there are people here who dismiss the found drugs as planted by the cops.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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@Captain Canuck Probably depends on the neighborhood you live in, personal safety is best judged by the individual and their surroundings.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bykillingforgod (735.40) killingforgod View Channel Send Message
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Police guilty of murder
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByBrockk (120.80) 
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thats why i stay in bed
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByBONGOS (101.90) 
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ROTTEN TO THE CORE..
cops have bullet proof vests, good guns, professional training..
yet NO COMMON SENSE!!
Yes, you can expect someone to have a gun on them at 1:30 AM when a stranger is knocking on their door!
Cops clearly broke the law and their procedures.
How come they arent in jail or ATLEAST brought up on charges?
Worst case for the cops, the judge will let them off with a warning.
MORE Likely, someone in the department will screw up the case (on purpose) and have the case throw More..
Posted Jul-17-2012 Byheydoin (170.54) heydoin View Channel Send Message
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@heydoin amazing isn't it? I'm sure they were "just doing their jobs."
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByDeakion2008 (278.92) Deakion2008 View Channel Send Message
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@heydoin
Until police start going to prison - - - the policy will never change ! ! !
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bykevinm16 (314.58) kevinm16 View Channel Send Message
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@heydoin
What law or procedure did they break? Please provide a reference. Or is this going to be another "my friend who has a cousin whose uncle knew man who dated an aunt he was a police officer for three months and he told me" kind of qualification?
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1473.02) 
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@pootin because the worst of the worst are in Florida.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bydietcokesucks (1003.30) 
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Not to one-up this story BUT....out here in Elk Grove calif we had a cop shoot a hand cuffed suspect while he was sitting in the back seat of the cops car !!
Then b4 'internal' investigation could arrive on the scene the cops friends drove him to a secret location. No officer was ever charged with any crime !
Try to top that Florida !!
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What pisses me off is that there are many many good cops who do their job well and its a job I wouldn't want to do.
Posted Jul-17-2012 Bybingram (46.76) bingram View Channel Send Message
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Believe it happened in Madera, California as well. Female cop shot an unarmed handcuffed suspect while sitting in the back of the squad car! I think the cop claimed she meant to shoot him with the taser instead. Could have been the same story but I'm pretty damn sure it was Madera. I'll have to look it up...
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByMajorTom (26.60) 
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"Had drugs in his house." "Been arrested before." So that's makes it ok that he's dead? Damn media. If they identified themselves at the door, he probably would have answered the door WITHOUT his gun drawn and would still be alive.
Posted Jul-17-2012 ByBigdaddy69 (44.10) 
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