The Houston Chronicle:
Three weeks after hundreds of Houston janitors went on strike, janitorial contractors and Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Local 1 returned to the negotiating table on Thursday. But the bargaining concluded Friday without a settlement or an end to the strike.
As reported, negotiations over janitors' third union contract broke down at the end of May. Following a series of June work stoppages, hundreds began walking off the job on July 10. Their cause caught fire nationwide, sparking a series of high-profile demonstrations, solidarity strikes and statements of support.
Wages are a key sticking point. SEIU proposed an increase from $8.35 to $10.00 over three years, but management’s “last, best, and final” offer in May raised wages only fifty cents over five years. "The union's proposal makes their lives a little better, while [management's] proposal pushes the janitors deeper into poverty," SEIU Local 1 President Tom Balanoff wrote in a July 30 letter.
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At one time in this country, there were few workplace safety laws, few restraints on employers, and incredibly exploitive working conditions that ranged from slavery, to share cropping, to putting children in dangerous working conditions. Unions, to their everlasting credit, helped play an important role in leveling the playing field for workers.
However, as the laws changed, there was less and less need for unions. Because of that, union membership shrank. In response, the unions became more explicitly involved in politics. Over time, they managed to co-opt the Democratic Party, pull their strings, and rewrite our labor laws in their favor.
As Lord Acton noted, "Power tends to corrupt," and that has certainly been true for the unions. Unions have become selfish, extremely greedy, and even thuggish in their never-ending quest to take in as much as they can for themselves, at the expense of everyone else who crosses their path.
That's why today, unions have changed from organizations that "look out for the little guy" into the largest, most rapacious special interest group in the entire country. Where unions go, disaster usually follows. Just to name a few examples:
1) Unions are severely damaging whole industries: How is it that GM and Chrysler got into such lousy shape that they had to be bailed out? There's a simple answer: The unions. The massive pensions the car companies paid out raised their costs so much that they were limited to building more expensive cars to try to get their money back. They couldn't even do a great job of building those cars because utterly ridiculous union rules prevented them from using their labor efficiently. America created the automobile industry, but American unions are strangling it to death. Unions also wrecked the steel and textile industries and have helped drive manufacturing jobs overseas. And they're crippling the airline industry.
2) Unions are ruining public education: Every few years, it's the same old story. The teachers’ unions claim that public education in this country is dramatically underfunded and if they just had more money, they could turn it around. Taxpayer money then pours into our schools like a waterfall and....there's no improvement. A few years later, when people have forgotten the last spending spree on education, the process is repeated.
However, the real problem with our education system in this country is the teachers’ unions. They do everything possible to prevent schools not only from firing lousy teachers, but also from rewarding talented teachers. Merit pay? The unions hate it. Private schools? Even though everyone knows they deliver a better education than our public schools, unions fight to keep as many kids as possible locked in failing public schools. In Wisconsin, we've had whole schools shutting down so that lazy teachers can waste their time protesting on the taxpayers’ dime. Want to improve education in this country? Then you've got to take on the teachers’ unions.
3) Unions are costing you billions of tax dollars: Let's put it plain and simple: Government workers shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Period.
Why? Because you elect representatives to look out for your interests.
It's obviously in your interest to pay as little as possible to government workers, to keep their benefits as low as possible, and to hire as few of them as possible to do the job. However, because the Democratic Party and the unions are in bed with each other, this entire process has been turned on its ear. Instead of looking out for your interests, Democrats try to hire as many government workers as possible, pay them as much as possible, and give them benefits that are as generous as possible, all so that union workers will do more to get them re-elected.
In other words, the Democratic Party and the unions are engaged in an open conspiracy to defraud the American taxpayer. There's no way that the American people should allow that to continue.
4) Unions are fundamentally anti-democratic : How in the world did we get to the point where people can be forced to join a union just to get a job at certain places? Then, after they're dragooned into the union, they have no choice other than to pay dues that are used for political activities which the unwilling dues-paying member may oppose.
Add to that the fact that the Democrats and the government unions collaborate to subvert democracy at the expense of the taxpayer and it's not a pretty picture. Worse yet, unions have gotten so voracious that they even want to do away with the secret ballot, via card check, so they can openly bully people into joining unions. The way unions behave in this country is undemocratic, un-American, and it should trouble anyone who cares about freedom and individual rights.
5) Government unions are bankrupting cities and states: Government unions have bled billions from taxpayers nationally, but the damage they're doing on the local level is even worse. We have cities and states all across the country that are so behind on their bills that there have been genuine discussions about bankruptcy. There are a lot of irresponsible financial policies that have helped contribute to that sorry state-of-affairs, but unquestionably, the biggest backbreakers can be directly traced back to the unions.
As the Washington Times has noted, union pensions are crushing budgets all across the country.
Yet it comes as little surprise that the same profligacy that pervades the corridors of federal power infects this country’s 87,000 state, county and municipal governments and school districts. By 2013, the amount of retirement money promised to employees of these public entities will exceed cash on hand by more than a trillion dollars.
So, what happens when these pensions can't be paid? They will come to the taxpayers with their hands out. When they stroll forward with their beggar's bowl in hand, the American people should keep their wallets in their pockets. That may not seem fair, but the public sector union members have gotten a great deal at everyone else's expense for a long time and if somebody has to take a haircut, and they do, it should be the union members instead of the taxpayers they've been bilking for so long.
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The big banks are also bad for America. Get on it, pronto.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByBlue3tar (482.90) 
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like it or not ,the unions made a middle class,
no middle class no country
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byoutsidelooknn (1107.50) 
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@outsidelooknn - small business made the middle class , not unions
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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Yep you can tell who the looser union people are , by just the thumbs down. That explains alot about you people's responses.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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@cajunmojo when the union went away here so did the middle class,were do you think small business set up shop? in union towns,,losers?? been screaming buy American for yrs,,,someone wasnt listening
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byoutsidelooknn (1107.50) 
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@outsidelooknn why buy American, when the Japanese and Koreans (non union shops) make better automobiles for the same price or you can buy European (non unionized) cars of better quality for slightly more. I work on cars for a living so i can honestly say this truthfully. Ford is getting better, GM and Chrysler are piles of junk. Top growing Auto company in the world.... Korean!! Hyundai/KIA!
Hell half the cars sold in the US by "Foreign" automakers are made in the US/Canada.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByAariss (383.12) 
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@Aariss i hear ya,,not only talking about the auto industry when i say buy american, but i do when it comes to cars or trucks,never owned anything but.1 lemon in the bunch,
Posted Aug-8-2012 Byoutsidelooknn (1107.50) 
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before everyone jumps on the bandwagon to bash unions as a whole, i suggest they do some historical research into what the working conditions were like, what rights the common man has as a worker in american life BEFORE unions.
like no overtime pay? like a 16 hour,6 day a week work week? want to work beside a 12 year old?
lose an arm from an accident at work, due to management negligence? tough shit, hit the bricks, cripple.
be careful what you wish for.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByYogsoggoth (817.40) Yogsoggoth View Channel Send Message
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@Yogsoggoth - Do not like your job , GET ANOTHER ONE. Geeze you people are lazy. Union's are useless entities run by thugs. Do not like your boss , do a better job and take his. Do not like your job start your own business.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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@Yogsoggoth this would be an entirley relevant comment if this were the early 1900's.
In today's world it's just laughable.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byaussite (1797.60) 
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@cajunmojo You should try reading the post. Everything Yogsoggoth says is true. Look it up in any history book. It's a shame your so ignorant on the subject, yet still feel compelled to comment on it.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycdlcrash (319.90) 
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Haha, so afraid of unions and in the meantime the US is bailing out all the banks -- symbols of pure unrestricted capitalism!
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byimmamoron (151.74) immamoron View Channel Send Message
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@immamoron and guess who owns them both?
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByKutKorners (545.20)

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@KutKorners ze jews
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byticklemygooch (158.00) 
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At one time in this country, you could pump gas and make enough to support a family and a stay at home wife. What is sad is that unions are even needed. Blame greed, not unions.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bydxh (235.56) 
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@dxh why does a union primarily strike? Not for working conditions.. but increases in their salary, even when it's not in the budget!! GREED!!!
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByAariss (383.12) 
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The main reason I left my union (smwia), was because I didn't want my money going to Democrats anymore. If you had any leanings to the right, you were a wacko wingnut etc... Unions no longer care about you or me, just the union itself and how much power and political favor they can gain. Once upon a time they were a good thing, but not anymore!
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bymorelman2 (735.62) 
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@morelman2
I voted for a few republicans, and I am a union member. I didn't care what my fellow workers said. Tough crap on them.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByRhemis (974.48) 
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@morelman2 ....my union donates to BOTH parties. Many do.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByNepean109 (1015.20) 
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@morelman2 Same thing here in Sweden.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByKlappasaften (81.64) 
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@Nepean109 - OH there is my answer , you are a union member. That explains alot about your stance on most stuff.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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@cajunmojo It does kind of bring it all into focus now doesn't it?
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byaussite (1797.60) 
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Unions aren't destroying America. American corporations are destroying unions.
Government unions, that's a different story. Bus drivers, teachers, janitors, etc... Politics ruin that. Politicians pass the buck, to the next elected politician.
Look at Walmart. Almost every employee will tell you that Walmart will make sure you never reach 40 hours in a week's time. Same for McDonald. A lot of employers are like that. Your time is valuable, unless you don't care. Night shift, holidays, Sundays. More..
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByRhemis (974.48) 
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@Rhemis
Yo, Remus~ Ever think of starting your own business and working for yourself???
Of course not. That would mean actually working and that in the confines of a success/ failure scenario entirely dependent upon your own efforts with no one else to blame but yourself.
That would completely erase the victim/perpetrator motif and that's pretty much the whole Libtard economic mantra right there which you clowns cling to and refuse to stray from lest you find yourselves having to fend for yours More..
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByValleyBlacksmith (683.00) 
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@Rhemis - Small business made the middle class , who owns most McDonald's are independently own: ie small business , nice try
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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@ValleyBlacksmith Nicely put!
I think even some liberals may get it.
Then again maybe not!
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byaussite (1797.60) 
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@ValleyBlacksmith
Yes I have thought of that. The building trades unions are competitive with non-union trades. As a matter of fact, a friend of mine (a co-worker from long ago) has been in business for 7 years and is doing very well.
There are a lot of mechanical contractors in my field of work, in my town, and they are all doing quite fine.
The people they hire are well trained, educated and experienced workers. Certified in their fields and State and local.
I'm doing well too (could b More..
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByRhemis (974.48) 
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@1funkycat I see the truth stings
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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Unions made the middle class - without unions, America is just . . . China.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByNepean109 (1015.20) 
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@Nepean109 - Wrong again , small business made the middle class
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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@cajunmojo Wrong as usual. The middle class was strongest from the 60's till the early 90's which is also when union membership was at it's peak. But don't let the facts get in the way of your blabbering.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycdlcrash (319.90) 
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@cdlcrash - Teaxs is a right to work state , seems like everyone is moving to Houston. New York is a union state , people are leaving in droves.
There are approximately 24.7 million businesses in the United States, Now take into consideration each business employees people. So it is safe to say each business consist of three people "low estimtae". That would make somewhere around 74 million people employeed by small business.
The union membership rate was 20.1 percent and there were More..
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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@RugOutFromUnderYou - I rest my case , you made my argument for me.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycajunmojo (1850.80) 
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Fuck unions. Fuck liberals.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byticklemygooch (158.00) 
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fuck PUBLIC service unions, THEY are the ones who are dragging our economy down....all the pensions and benefits !
the private unions HARDLY even compare to whats going on in the public sector
as i always say
"Live Better, Ban Unions"
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.64) 
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@mylostsoul Wall st. dragged us down dummy. Where do you think all of those pension plans were invested? You do realize that they were solvent all these years until the market crashed? What do you think it's a coincidence?
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bycdlcrash (319.90) 
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@cdlcrash those pension plans weren't just based on wall st. either tho. The pensions ironically were passed while Grey Davis was in option for on organization, then all other public sector unions mirrored it. But yes your right some it was invested in wall street. I was talking about CA's economy. I should've been more specific. We can't get anything passed because of the unions here.
Posted Aug-8-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.64) 
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All Unions have turned into is legal organised extortion & a way to launder big money back to the Dems
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byaranger45 (2989.28) 
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There was a time when unions were neccesary for workers and saved lives(UMWA for example). However there should not be any government unions. seiu is nothing more a gang of political thugs.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bydaveporter (323.30) 
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you know how you deal with a striking union? fire them all....i'm sure there are plenty who want to work
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bydietcokesucks (883.70) 
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@dietcokesucks and at half the price.. think 30 go on strike, you hire 45 and have 50% more people to do the job for the same or less and do it right for fear of being fired.. The place would clean as hell.
Posted Aug-7-2012 ByAariss (383.12) 
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@Aariss x-actly
Posted Aug-8-2012 Bydietcokesucks (883.70) 
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@Aariss Unionized janitorial staff make about $17 an hour which is a good pay. Schools are now sub-contracting this for "savings". The only difference is now we are paying a janitorial company $15 an hour who is in turn paying their people $10.25. Not good for the economy and not good for people.
If it's such a cost savings, where my reduction in taxes? There aren't any, sucked into the vacuum, the only difference is now someone can't afford to buy shit with minimum wage thus maki More..
Posted Aug-8-2012 Bydavele (74.80) 
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@davele Ever see what a Business has to pay to the Unions? Yeah they pay the Unions for each worker hired.. on top of that they pay the workers.. so how is that different?
Posted Aug-8-2012 ByAariss (383.12) 
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@Aariss Union dues are small... not a drop in the bucket in government spending. My point is that the only person who gains in this union bashing environment is the small business middle man. The worker makes less and the tax payer pays the same. You want to save money, do something about government waste and abuse. Reduce the size of government.
Posted Aug-8-2012 Bydavele (74.80) 
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It's the public service unions that are costing the taxpayer. Private unions, not so much.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Bykarrion (435.36) 
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@karrion May I suggest that you do a little research on The Big Dig, done by union workers, rampant theft and corruption and now the dam thing is failing around us after a mere ten years and the Taxpayers are gong to be picking up the costs of those repairs for a very long time.
Posted Aug-7-2012 Byaussite (1797.60) 
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Yes. I heard about that one. Your tax dollars at work.
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