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Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims

Comments follow statements by Donald Trump questioning legitimacy of president's birth record

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

"It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.

Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday, saying that "nobody has any information" about the president's birth and that "if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be president of the United States."

No matter what state officials release on the issue, the "birthers" are going to question it, said Fukino. "They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated," said Fukino. "The whole thing is silly."
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As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama's birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump's recent comments.

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.
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"It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that," Fukino said. Moreover, she added, her boss at the time, Lingle — who was backing John McCain for president — would presumably have to be in on any cover up since Fukino made her public comment at the governor's office's request. "Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

Her second point — one she made repeatedly in the interview — is that the shorter, computer generated "certification of live birth" that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. (Obama was "testy" when asked to sign the form but did so anyway to put the issue to rest, the former campaign official said. The White House has dismissed all questions about the president's birth as "fictional nonsense.")

The certification that the campaign received back —which shows that Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961 — was based on the content of the original document in state files, Fukino said.

"What he got, everybody got," said Fukino. "He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate."

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

In addition, as Factcheck.org and other media organizations have repeatedly pointed out, both of Honolulu's newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, and the Honolulu Star Bulletin, on Aug. 14, 1961, both ran birth announcements listing Obama's birth on Aug. 4 of that year.

Even Fukino accepts that her comments are not likely to end the matter for the die-hard birthers. Trump and other skeptics have questioned why the original birth certificate has not been released.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.


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  • Frustrated libs? But it's fine and dandy if you whack nuts accuse Bush of masterminding 9-11, but don't anyone dare ask about Obama's birth certificate.

    If this chick is so damn right, then produce it again and be done with it. And why the hell has Obama spent $2 million dollars fighting this issue?

    Hey, if he's born in Hawaii then he's born in Hawaii. Just show the records.

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    • you know, if someone thinks Bush masterminded 9/11, they are a conspiracy nut. if you want to say that thinking bush masterminded 9/11 as a general characteristic of that political leaning, you are completely out of scope. political leanings have nothing to do with delusional conspiracies. but of course you have already bought in the whole non-objective commentary regarding the political spectrum. you may wish things were as simple as liberal and conservative, but just because your perception of More..

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  • I have to admit though.. Obama sure makes it easy to doubt his legitimacy.. Obama's first act as President was executive order 13489, which banned the release of any of his records without his consent after all.

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  • Trumps statements only confirm what I've always thought of him. He represents all that is despicable about Corporate scum. He has no allegiance, he has no character, he has no honor. He is like all the other megalomaniacs. He lusts for power at the cost of all those around him. In short, he is one sick Bastard.

    He has a history of operating on other peoples money which includes tax-payer funded write-offs. A number of his "ventures" have gone belly-up bankrupt. He knows we are all jus More..

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  • This bullshit will never end.

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  • DONALD TRUMP IS CHEATING ON HIS TAXES AND LIKE MALE TEEN PORN

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  • Between the birthers and the teabaggers America is a joke.

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  • I do not think Obama should have to release his birth certificate to the general public. I do however think it should be presented or made available to key personnel like governors and senators. We now have a statement of not only that it exists but where. All there is left to do is verify it.. I would like to see a law made to allow for confirmation by not only Obama supporters, but the entire political spectrum of key officials. Not just for Obama but for all politicians or even all Americans More..

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  • Man, you fucking birthers are amazingly stupid fucking idiots.
    You do make me laugh though, I will give you that........

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  • Yet they can't name what hospital he was born at and there are no hospital records? I am older than Obama, the hospital has my records as well as the insurance and billing information, the name of the doctor who delivered me and who was on staff at the time.

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  • so can we see it ?

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  • let's have the original birth certificate they speak of to be carbon dated... I bet they will find it was made with-in the last 5 years. Only someone with something to hide would baulk at it.

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  • Well, if the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health says Obama is legit, I guess the whole question can now be put to rest. He was born in Kenya.

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  • Then show the dam thing.

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    • Unless you or anyone else can find an example where another long form certificate from that state was made available publicly, the demand is unreasonable. If there was any meat to this issue, the mainstream Republicans would have been all over it. It's a honey pot trap for nutcases - including The Donald".

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    • which Dam?

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  • He was born in Hawaii, but the certificate says MUSLIM, and we can't have that now can we?

    Is that what Hussein is hiding then if not? Lets say you make $100k a year, and I told you that you would have to spend $20k a year to keep your job because I know something nasty you did in 1980, do you remember it, I do, and it was fucking gross, but I won't tell anybody as long as the money is to me by the 1st of the month!! Don't be late now, I just might have to leak something to TMZ, maybe a blurry More..

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  • An official says, "I saw it with mine two eyes so shut the fuck up and go away!!"

    Yeah right, sure it exists, and so does the tooth fairy.
    Fucking radical libs just love breaking th law.

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    • Go ahead dumb ass and add your brain to that list of non existing things . You are such a predictable tool .

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  • Glad Fukino's seen it. Why won't the President let us see it. So easy to end the whole contriversy.

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  • How can a god dern nigerian be presdent of the U nited states, when every good ole boy nows he has be to be a merican to be preznit?

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  • Show the original..PERIOD...if you want the issue and the people to go away. How (*&^ing hard is that? $2 million spent to hide it, yeah...don't think so.

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  • it doesnt matter where obama was born, he could be from outer space and it still wouldnt matter, the bottom line is that he is the frontman chosen to represent the globalists, bankers, illuminati, NWO etc....you dont get there without the approval of the many different groups that collude to steal the bloodand money from the sleeping masses

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  • Dr. Chiyome Fukino interviewed by NBC. What a joke. Who does not know by now that NBC is in bed with Obama. Talk about a conflict of interest. NBC, General Electric and Hussien Obama, - duh.

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  • First question: Where was O's daddy from? End of story.
    Next question: How is it that the published COLB shows his daddy's race as African? African has never been a race and still isn't. PC liberal forger couldn't bring themselves to put down negro! If it's there, he shouldn't have a problem producing it for vetting, as required.

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  • Sorry, but that's the typical answer and does nothing to stir the pot. Coming from another country doesn't mean someone allegiance lies elsewhere ~ if fact, it's generally the opposite. You're certainly not safe relying on our citizens, as a great deal would love nothing more than to see the country smolder.

    Nice dig with the 'smarter than you' comment though. I suppose when you can't make rational arguments, you can always attempt to insult...albeit poorly.

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  • he is the anti-christ born of a jackal, that's why no cert. Should have been named Damien.

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  • Trump has put this in the public eye and it's not going away, until Obama produces the cert, resigns or is arrested.
    Let's pretend playtime with the Libtard's in Washington is almost over.
    There won't be another Liberal prez elected for 20 years after this fiasco is finished.

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    • I REALLY wish I could take a look at your medicine cabinet... man the psychotropic meds must be stacked up pretty high.. or are you really Orly Taitz??
      Just keep pinning your hopes on the Impending Impeachment/and/or/ resignation.. I wouldn;t bother to respond to "arrested".. Tho I WOULD love to see the lok on YOUR face when bush or cheney forget themselves and go abroad.. and end up in the Hague!

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