G.O.P. Blocks Veteran Jobs BillBy LAWRENCE DOWNESVeterans won’t be getting a new, billion-dollar jobs program, not from this Senate. Republicans on Wednesday afternoon blocked a vote on the Veterans Job Corps Bill after Jeff Sessions of Alabama raised a point of order — he said the bill violated a cap on spending agreed to by Congress last year. The bill’s sponsor, Patty Murray of Washington, said that shouldn’t matter, since the bill’s cost was fully offset by new revenues. She said Mr. Sessions and his party colleagues had been furiously generating excuses to oppose the bill, and were now exploiting a technicality to deny thousands of veterans a shot at getting hired as police officers, firefighters and parks workers, among other things.
The vote was 58-40; the bill needed 60 votes to proceed.
It would be easier to admire the Republicans’ late-breaking fiscal scrupulosity if their motives — denying the Obama administration any kind of victory this year, whatever the cost to jobless vets — weren’t so transparent. It’s probably useful to remind Republicans like John McCain (a “nay” on the jobs bill) that wounded, jobless and homeless veterans aren’t a fact of nature. They’re a product of the wars that Congress members voted for, the war debt they piled on, and the economy they helped ruin.
“It’s unbelievable that even after more than a decade of war, many Republicans still will not acknowledge that the treatment of our veterans is a cost of war,” Ms. Murray said in a statement after the vote.
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Sounds like Bull Shit from the Democrats. There are no new revenues. Parry Murray is full of shit. Every frikin penny is paying off that monstrous huge debt Obama and the Democrats created.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByBuckaroo (201.12) 
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@Buckaroo Your ignorance is astounding.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/adding-to-the-deficit-bush-vs-obama/2012/01/31/gIQAQ0kFgQ_graphic.html
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bycdlcrash (319.30) 
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@cdlcrash The Debt was 4 trillion for 8 years for Bush and in Obama's 4 years almost 6 trillion already. The worse unemployment was under Bush was like 7.8% the best under Obama 8.1%
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byubdumb (9067.86) ubdumb View Channel Send Message
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@ubdumb You know that there's a delay right?
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bycastanza128 (619.82) 
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While idiot liberals suddenly pretend to care about our military that they constantly shit on whenever possible.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByST0N3PONY (5036.22) 
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@ST0N3PONY this is the 3rd bill the GOP have blocked with our VETs, healthcare was the last one. I suggest you stop being a droid an actually LOOK at whats happening not what the GOP are saying whats happening, unless of course you can prove me wrong?
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1019.30) 
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@ST0N3PONY
Lots of liberals are in or have been in the military. It's only in your fantasy world that conservatives care about the military.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByPH-DEE (388.54) 
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@PH-DEE Are you speaking of yourself?If not you should listen to those more experienced at World affairs.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byopacity (120.68) 
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@peterjames2009 when Bush was President and Obama a Senator he repeatedly voted against supplying the troops with needed equipment ecery time.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byubdumb (9067.86) ubdumb View Channel Send Message
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@ubdumb time for some more fact checking
http://votevets.org/mccain.html
http://veteransforcommonsense.org/?Page=Article&ID=9559
http://iava.org/full-ratings-list
http://votesmart.org/interest-groups
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1019.30) 
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I think this needs repeating, "t’s probably useful to remind Republicans like John McCain (a “nay” on the jobs bill) that wounded, jobless and homeless veterans aren’t a fact of nature. They’re a product of the wars that Congress members voted for, the war debt they piled on, and the economy they helped ruin."
“It’s unbelievable that even after more than a decade of war, many Republicans still will not acknowledge that the treatment of our veterans is a cost of war,” M More..
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bydownhill2400 (1319.08) downhill2400 View Channel Send Message
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it's politics.. THey are all criminals.. We should round them all up and put them in prison.. (both Dems and Republicans)
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bystepkau (79.08) 
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Oh yeah, and the Dems HAD NOTHING hidden in that bill.......riiiiiiight.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByBean223 (36.60) 
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@Bean223
I've just had a read and no, there is nothing hidden in the bill.
You can check it out yourself then come back and tell us what you think.
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Posted Sep-19-2012 ByGod_Himself (1212.16) 
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@Bean223 They didn't.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.12) hellgremlin Send Message
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This is an opinion story, not news. Fact is, it is a spending bill that has to be introduced in the House first, not the Senate, and Democrats knew that it couldn't be introduced, or they are all ignorant of their own rules. More than likely just a ploy to make Republicans look bad. Nothing new here.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bysafetychuck2 (4090.82)

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@safetychuck2: Republicans look bad. Face it.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bysquackage (74.92) 
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@squackage Cheap political ploy. It is a spending bill introduced in the Senate...even if it passed and was sent to the House, the House would Blue Slip it and send it back without taking further action. Why, because the Senate cannot introduce spending bills.
Posted Sep-20-2012 Bysafetychuck2 (4090.82)

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Sick Sick son of Repugnant divisive Goppers... Everybody can go to hell except the filthy rich tycoon bankers , who pimp Republicunts every election year.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByFunFlips (210.30) 
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@FunFlips
Don't forget to put Obama on the list. Just check out the top corporate donors to his campaign in 2008.
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Morgan Stanley $512,232
If you think wall street and the banks only buy off Republicans you've got a lot of learning to do.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bydamoon9999 (231.80) damoon9999 View Channel Send Message
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@damoon9999
well by that logic you wont be voting for romney because they are all giving him more money than obama in 2012
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1019.30) 
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@damoon9999 I don't know where you got your numbers, they're all wrong. Actually Romney gets the big corporate support. Here's where I got mine. Please not both Romney and obama numbers are listed in the link provided for comparison.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/top-mitt-romney-donors-update
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bydownhill2400 (1319.08) downhill2400 View Channel Send Message
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@damoon9999 Who are those companies donating to this time?
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bycdlcrash (319.30) 
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@peterjames2009
Point missed. Not about my vote.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bydamoon9999 (231.80) damoon9999 View Channel Send Message
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@Americanalltheway
My respect to you.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByRousing Sermon (178.90) 
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@Americanalltheway You can't make a dollar by burning it up either.
Thanks for your service. May I ask which war or battle you were in?
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByMyheavynuts (500.20) 
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@Americanalltheway - (bows head)
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByRousing Sermon (178.90) 
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They even had a soldiers mom arrested for hollering out "if you are going to send them to die, at least pay them" during the hearings the other day.
maybe she shouldnt have hollered out, but this is a mom and an American. She couldve easily been walked out.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByKutKorners (545.10)

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I know, zer0 is disgusting.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByRousing Sermon (178.90) 
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Guaranteed zer0 stuck some commie, and veteran hating shit in there.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByRousing Sermon (178.90) 
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Source please.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByMyheavynuts (500.20) 
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@Americanalltheway Who knows. I don't think any of them know either. Both sides. One guy just runs around saying stop or sign. EVeryone else goes ok.
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@Americanalltheway People need to pay attention and stop voting them back in and give them term limits to boot.
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Many of the jobs bills are just propaganda. My first question is were are the jobs going to come from? A jobs bill passed a few years ago gave a $5000 credit to hire, guess what no jobs were created. Most of these Bills are political because the jobs don't exist. Like say a Restaurant focuses on hiring Vets you aren't going to get the Best of Vets to apply at a Restaurant.
This appears to be a blog or just some liberal spreading propaganda.....
The layoffs are just starting here the new recessio More..
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byubdumb (9067.86) ubdumb View Channel Send Message
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@ubdumb
---Paul Rieckhoff; Executive Director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA):
"The current economic downturn is hitting new veterans especially hard. Imagine returning from combat in Iraq and Afghanistan only to struggle to support yourself and your family. That's not the homecoming our brave veterans have earned. The expansion of the Work Opportunity Tax Credit will encourage employers to do their patriotic duty, and help our newest veterans succeed in their civili More..
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByGod_Himself (1212.16) 
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Why do we need more cops and firemen all of a sudden?
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byklark kent (178.50) 
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If you've ever wondered how spending got to such an insane level, well here you go. Somebody puts forth a bill to help veterans, then a bunch of assholes looking to secure the next round campaign contributions come along and piggyback a shit load of special interest spending. Why not? Who's going to vote against our vets. It's complete crap and both parties do it.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByEluf-ant (341.70) 
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@Eluf-ant
The republicans vote against the vets. There.
Posted Sep-19-2012 ByPH-DEE (388.54) 
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@PH-DEE This bill was like having a Bill to make sure that Veterans get priority over civilians on the next manned Mars mission, the Bill creates no jobs.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byubdumb (9067.86) ubdumb View Channel Send Message
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@PH-DEE - Look back through the congressional record. I'll bet you'll find all kinds of bills labeled as "Pro Vet" that were opposed by democrats. That's my point.
Posted Sep-20-2012 ByEluf-ant (341.70) 
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@Eluf-ant
Having paid attention to this issue personally for several decades, I would wager that the more conservative members of congress tend to favor military spending over post-military spending more so that the less conservative members of congress.
That is, the blue-dog democrats and the republicans have no problem voting for military projects and weapons systems, but they are less eager to support or sponsor bills that move public funds towards the VA or other veteran benefits like h More..
Posted Sep-20-2012 ByPH-DEE (388.54) 
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This is just more pandering by the Dems. No way this was paid for by 'new revenues'. Invented revenues is more like it. (And I'm a non-working vet, too.)
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byjoe prole (1637.30) 
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@joe prole Members of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus may tout their commitment to cutting government spending now, but they used the 111th Congress to request hundreds of earmarks that, taken cumulatively, added more than $1 billion to the federal budget.
According to a Hotline review of records compiled by Citizens Against Government Waste, the 52 members of the caucus, which pledges to cut spending and reduce the size of government, requested a total of 764 earmarks valued at $1,049,783,1 More..
Posted Sep-19-2012 Bydownhill2400 (1319.08) downhill2400 View Channel Send Message
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@joe prole
You're a non-working vet??
You must be one of those victim losers Romney was talking about? You know; the 47%...
LOL
I really don't like to get personal on LL but if you support Romney, you're astonishingly dumb lol
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Posted Sep-19-2012 ByGod_Himself (1212.16) 
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@God_Himself
I'm retired, but have been looking for some small, part-time gig for a few extra bucks.
Posted Sep-19-2012 Byjoe prole (1637.30) 
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