"Tensions are growing over the Black Sea Fleet base and with the Ukraine trying to free itself from Russian dominance by seeking EU and NATO membership, the question is, could this be the next European war?
Although Crimea was given to Ukraine in 1954, Russian is still the main language spoken here and taught in schools. But Ukraines ambitions to enhance their own identity have stirred up emotions and problems. Learning Ukranian is now mandatory and is often the only official language. The threat of ending Russia's naval base lease in 2017 means there is the lingering threat of Georgian style conflicts. Sergej Normanskij says that all this instability puts nervous imprints on the situation, so people are afraid of that date." Journeymanpictures
By: lasrever
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Tags: ukraine, threats around crimea, sergej normanskij, black sea fleet, EU, NATO, lasrever, danielmountain
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there is a large ant-nato Russian presence in Crimea. but it is more complicated than that with Cossacks and other groups. The area is similar to eastern Ukraine with Russian meddling and corruption.
Posted Oct-18-2008 Bykyivakula (279.48) 
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I see another Georgia-type confrontation looming in the future
Posted Oct-18-2008 Byriznod (18.98) 
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I bet it will happen
Posted Oct-18-2008 ByArdo Melnikov (79.36) 
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I bet it wont
Posted Oct-18-2008 Byarchangeles (78.28) archangeles View Channel Send Message
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Highly unlikely. Ukrainian society and politicians are responsible enough to prevent that sort of scenario.
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byalexeyv (73.12) alexeyv Send Message
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That was tried three times before. Poles in XVII century, Napoleon in XIX, and Hitler in XX.
What makes you think it will work this time around?
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byalexeyv (73.12) alexeyv Send Message
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Do you want some banana?
Posted Oct-24-2008 Byphilin (19.46) 
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So what is the long term plan to deal with the situation ? I would think that the Russian people themselves would not condone the use of force against the Ukranians. Is the port so irreplaceable that the Russians would fight to keep it rather than arrange to build another elsewhere ? I would like to hear what the folks who live in part of the world have to say about it. Please share...
Posted Oct-18-2008 ByChairmanOfTheBored (43.22) 
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haha Russia =) Thats big area sea Russia will no longer be able to have access to, Good to see Ukranian pride! Russia wont attack if they know whats good for them!
Posted Oct-18-2008 ByNATO-Allies (100.08) NATO-Allies View Channel Send Message
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Medieval Russia was situated where Ukraine is now.
In essence Russia and Ukraine is one country.
It was a terrible idea to split it apart.
Whereas Georgia JOINED Russia to be protected from Turkey.
So we are talking about two completely different historical contexts.
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byskintwin (177.26) 
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well, tht's not for you to decide anymore
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byth1 (152.06) 
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Decide what?
I am not deciding anything in my post.
I am just saying what it IS.
Those are two different historical contexts.
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byskintwin (177.26) 
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if we start to think like that, most of the russian land doesn't belong to russia, because of all those nations you occupied many many years ago. Like chechnya, ingushetya, bashkortostan, Kaliningrad. Just stay in your blood thirsty russia. You have lots of things to do there.
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byth1 (152.06) 
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Huh?
Whatever.
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byskintwin (177.26) 
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We aren't going anywhere and we won't let Nato take over our port over which we had spilled so much blood fighting the Turks.
Posted Oct-19-2008 ByVitali_85 (82.44) 
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Crimea was given to Russia by Turkey as the result of Russian-Turkey war.
According to the treaty, if Crimea does not belong to Russia, it MUST be RETURNED to Turkey.
So Ukraine has absolutely 0 rights for this region.
It can only be either Russian or Turkish.
Posted Oct-19-2008 Byskintwin (177.26) 
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All I know is that Ukranian Chick was Sooo fucking hot! If she came to America we could make her soo rich just off internet porn alone! lol!
Posted Oct-20-2008 Bymeechm (91.10) meechm View Channel Send Message
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Those oversized white navy hats are gay.
Posted Oct-18-2008 Bywarhog (109.00) 
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bullshit
Posted Oct-18-2008 ByCOA_0702 (14.94) COA_0702 View Channel Send Message
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whats bullshitski about this then..dont keep us in the dark explain
Posted Oct-18-2008 Bym1eft paul (277.30) 
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what is bullshit?
Posted Oct-18-2008 ByHazzaP (99.82) 
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??????
Posted Oct-18-2008 ByRob8729 (834.82) 
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ukrainer sind im moment nichts anderes als die sklaven der russen.
Stop russia !
Posted Jan-30-2009 By11111USA11111 (14.78) 
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