I just read that The New York City Department of Education is providing morning-after pills and other birth control drugs to students at 13 city high schools.
Schools are proving taxpayer funded rubbers and other birth control supplies to kids? Really?
I don’t think this could be any more offensive.
I mean, its not enough that:
· our schools are broke
· used as baby sitters
· used as feeding centers
· used to indoctrinate little leftists
· protect incompetent teachers
· used to provide golden parachutes for teaching staff
But now government schools also providing sex supplies to our kids?
How in the hell are sex supplies in any way related to teaching?, and why should I be paying for high school sex supplies? And shouldn’t the parents of those minors have a say?
What a blatant, and yet another example of massive governmental over reach.
But after reading stories like this, it becomes clearer how young women like Sandra Fluke can get up in front of the world, and demand that her sex supplies be paid for by the tax payers. For her, it may be less about personal moxie, and more about the result of ingrained training.
Is there no shame anymore? Is there no sense of personal responsibility? Or are those just outdated concepts? While those concepts are a big part of my family’s life, I fear that American culture is becoming devoid of both. And that is a shame.
Way to go lefties, you seem to have won again.
By: wharris
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Good. I'm glad my tax dollars are being used this way. Fewer pregnant teenagers is a good thing for the country. Paying for condoms and Plan B is a hell of a lot cheaper than letting them become welfare dependent at age 17.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bypicklethepug (1277.26) picklethepug View Channel Send Message
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There was a time in which the rate of out of wedlock births was much lower.
If you look at stats, over time, you will see a rather steady state of out-of-wedlock births.
But since the “great society” where the US government has decided to take on much of the responsibility of out of wedlock births, that rate has climbed dramatically.
When the US government decides to sponsor behavior by paying for it, the natural consequence is that you get more of that behavior.
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Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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Great point but completely irrelevant because birth control PREVENTS pregnancy so the government is actually doing the exact OPPOSITE of taking on responsibility for out of wedlock births-- its PREVENTING them. Did Sarah Palin encourage her daughter to get knocked up by her high school boyfriend because she expected the government to "take responsibility" for it? Get it now?
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bypicklethepug (1277.26) picklethepug View Channel Send Message
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OH GOD HOW OFFENSIVE!!! Providing contraception to high-schoolers...My "Little House on the Prairie" view of America has been shattered. Whats next, women being allowed to wear pants...?
Posted Sep-24-2012 ByKruger60 (59.40) 
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Well, cheaper than paying for the brats after they are born and put on the gov't dole.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bysnaffler (23.58) 
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This really was not a post about what the cheapest method is.
Hell, it might even be cheaper to simply sterilize them. But that's not the point either.
This was a post about the role of government and personal responsibility.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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Shut the fuck up- raise your children right and you wont have to worry about any of the above- quit bitchin and take care of you kids douche.
Posted Sep-24-2012 ByRie60 (197.62) 
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I did, and I have.
Stop forcing me to pay for yours.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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@wharris lol- I can tell you I make more than you on any given day...as my parents would say "quit-cher-bitchin and do your job"...
Posted Sep-24-2012 ByRie60 (197.62) 
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lol, you certainly might make more than me.
and i hope you do.
i do, however do my job, and, i have time to ponder shit.
Given that, i have opinions.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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Everyone who is having sex should have free access to condoms, regardless of age or anything else. This is not a moral issue it is an issue of common sense, if young teenagers are going to have sex then they are going to do it regardless of whether or not they are able to access birth control products, it makes more sense to acknowledge that they will benefit from the availability of these products and stop them from adding to the numbers of single teenage parents that everyone finds so disturbi More..
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bypara782 (168.14) 
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If by "free" you mean tax payer funded sex supplies.
nobody is taking away anything.
I'm just saying its not the role of the taxpayers to pay for sex supplies.
If you are gonna have sex, how about you pay for the supplies.
Also, if you are gonna have sex, you or yours pay for the results.
At one point, we did not have this rate of out of wedlock births.
I find it interesting that when the government started to pay (aka, be responsible) for the supplies, and the conseq More..
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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look at it this way - pay 9$ for condoms...and then u dont have to pay $50-150,000$ in tax payers money to pay for their welfare when they have a child long term 25 years :)
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Just saying that its not the responsibility of the government or schools to provide government sex supplies.
If it's cheap, then lets teach some personal responsibility.
Because otherwise, the message here is that the government considers you irresponsible, and is stepping in on your behalf.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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Tell me how much they are paying for each rubber and each pill, along with associated administrative costs and I will tell you if it's a good idea or not.
Somehow I get the feeling it will end up costing $10 a piece to get a single durex into a teens hands.
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Even if it were 2 cents, its still not the purpose of government to provide this.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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Agreed. Better to let them get pregnant, drop out, and be on welfare. Oh wait, no welfare either. On the street. And when they become little criminals for trying to survive, in jail.
We already have the world's largest prison population. Basically the Republican vision is the 1% and 99% in prison?
Posted Sep-24-2012 BySaros (795.70) 
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@Saros - Jesse Ventura did a show on a secret society that wants that to happen. something like 500 million thinkers and do'ers is all the planet needs and liquidate the rest
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bystirgy (2286.40) 
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@stirgy Can't really argue with that. Most people are assholes anyway.
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My post was not about the morality of Birth Control, or the Morality of pre-marital sex.
My comments were just about who provides the sex supplies.
I just don't think its the role of government to pay for sex supplies.
I don't want any of what you described, but I don't think you should use your predictions to force someone else to pay.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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@wharris Where does it say in the constitution that we should pay for police and firemen?
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It doesn't say thing that I know of, nor does it say anything about building roads.
But that's not the point of my post. This is a discussion about the role of government in our lives, verses personal responsibility. I would appear that you think it’s the government's job to be responsible instead of the person, at least in the case of sex supplies.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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I LOVE it. There are Too many people in this world. Too many unwanted children. Too many people in line at the Post Office in front of me. I'm a taxpayer and support sterilization en masse.
What DOES piss me off is the "feed the hungry/food bank" reports on the news with these families showing up for free bags of food and school supplies and clothing with the mommas with their blue toots in their ear
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bystirgy (2286.40) 
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@stirgy you know damn well that the monkeys won't use any of this shit...the line at the welfare building is just going to get longer, and longer and longer.
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Wow.. this person really wants teenagers to get pregnant..
And love how they call them "sex supplies", like they wouldn't have sex without them or something.
Apparently helping kids get condoms is "massive government overreach"..
..wtf.
Posted Sep-24-2012 ByDylanTheWanderer (104.44) 
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False choice. Not wanting the government to provide government sex supplies is not the same as wanting kids to get pregnant.
I'm just not sure how it's a school function.
The families of these kids, or the kids themselves should bear the responsibility for getting sex supplies.
Because otherwise, the message here is that the government considers you irresponsible, and is stepping in on your behalf.
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lol...now all the sluts and whores will be happy.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Byticklemygooch (158.00) 
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Yes it is a good point for teens being idiots and getting pregnant, parents love to slide the responsibilities off onto the school. It is a GOOD thing teenagers can take their kids to school to a day care there etc.....Otherwise many teens with kids would not go.
The schools are doing what they can to make up for all this shit parents out there today too afraid to deal with their kids sexuality and all pop culture being sexed up to a pathetic level. Schools are then flooded with sex obsessed t More..
Posted Sep-24-2012 ByItchy999 (458.40) 
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Just not sure how it's a school function.
I mean if we can make the argument that sex supplies are a school function, then its really pretty easy to make the case that anything really can be a school function.
Clothing, Housing, etc..
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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@wharris The fact that sex supplies are a school function is a failure for society in a developed nation you are right. The fact that it is needed is sad and not something anyone should be proud of you are totally right
Also something to note, in certain societies with higher qualities of life than our own schools DO provide clothing, housing and food in a sense that students are paid subsidies in a public sense to attend school on a monthly basis.
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Although I am more "liberal" in the American sense, I do agree with the person who created this post. It's your responsibility to make sure that you don't get an unwanted pregancy, if you are mature enough to fornicate then you are mature enough to know how biology works and how to get a condom or a pill. This will only create more and more irresponsible people with a entitlement mentality.
Same shit happens in the UK, where more and more money is spent on people who contribute nothin More..
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bynostromo84 (209.60) 
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And that was my point.
If sex supplies are so cheap, the be responsible for your own.
And lets teach that. Do the right thing.
Because otherwise, the message here is that the government considers you irresponsible, and is stepping in on your behalf.
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bywharris (2246.72) 
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@wharris I originally come from Greece (you know, the country on the verge of collapse). You can't even IMAGINE the entitlement mentality over there..it's surreal. A healty individual making enough money, would STILL claim whatever they could from the government or any EU subsidy because..."that's the way it is and if you can do it, why not?". Now imagine this happening on a grand scale and a full on tax evasion...Collapse, as expected, because money does not grow on trees. All these s More..
Posted Sep-24-2012 Bynostromo84 (209.60) 
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That's is because you have a healthy sense of responsibility.
Well done indeed. I, like you, could not live that way.
But as they say, the problem with socialism, or social programs is, at some point, you run out of other people's money.
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new york city schools sould give out jim jones kool aid
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