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2 volunteer firefighters shot dead, 2 hurt in 'trap' at fire in upstate N.Y. [INCIDENT AUDIO]

On Monday, Dec. 24, 2012 a gunman open fire on four volunteer firefighters from Webster NY as they arrived on scene of a car and house on fire. Two firefighters were killed, two others were shot and survived with injuries.

The audio is of the incidents.


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Added: Dec-24-2012 Occurred On: Dec-24-2012
By: uncletom
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Tags: webster, firefighter, fire, volunteer, new york, gunman, assault rifle, gun
Location: Webster, New York, United States (load item map)
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  • Tragic circumstances, respect from a previous volunteer firefighter in Canada.

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  • what a coincidence, ASSAULT RIFLES! HMMMMMMM! This comes just the same day bloomberg talks about confiscation of guns in the ny post. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD SOMEONE SET FIRE TO A HOUSE JUST TO AMBUSH FIREFIGHTERS! FUCKING MAKES NO SENSE, WHAT DOES MAKE SENSE IS THE ALL OUT ASSAULT OF BAN OF WEAPONS!. FUNNY THAT ASSAULT WEAPON WAS MENTIONED OVER THE RADIO!. THERE GONNA CONTINUE THESE FALSE FLAGS UNTIL WEAPONS ARE CONFISCATED ALL OVER THE USA.

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    • @virtualdesires

      DING DING DING. :)

      I think I am going to subscribe to you. We tend to think on very similar levels.

      This is 9/11 Scare tactics all over again. What next, a Gun Terror Chart? I bet they start it at Orange.. and slowly move it back and forth between yellow and orange over and over while making sure to send random people anthrax made from an American lab.

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    • @virtualdesires
      LOL, and people call me crazy because i beliefe in ufos. :D

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    • @virtualdesires

      Ban guns all you want, it will reduce what is out there, but there will always be illegal ways of getting these guns if people want them...
      I don't pretend to know the answer, tougher laws may not help as these guys always kill themselves anyway escaping punishment so what is the point there?? I definitely don't agree with the NRA either, you can't just put armed guards everywhere... That is just going to lead to a bunch of "accidents"...from armed teachers, armed fi More..

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    • @virtualdesires Too bad you're probably right. "Assault Rifle" was mentioned early in the recording.

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    • @virtualdesires i can agree to what alot of what you are saying! first is.. it was a hunting rifle, not assualt but you are right the first thing everyone says is that it was a assualt rifle.. secondly, this man has murdered before and was let out of prison in 98, lastly, i think ( just speculating here) that maybe he was expecting the world to end on the 21st and when it didnt he figured hed go out like a scumbag peice of shit.. im a volunteer FF myself and this sends chills through my spine..

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  • Merry Christmas and RIP.

    What a fucking shame.

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  • Anyone read about who did the shooting? A mother fucking convicted felon who did 17yrs for manslaughter.... yes lets let the fuckers out of jail to continue doing this shit.
    Only good felons are dead felons.

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  • And there you have it. After 10 seconds the word "assault rifle" is used. America you better lock and load cus they're coming for your guns, it's always the guns fault never the psycho on Prozac who loaded it and pulled the trigger.

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    • @Captainpish

      Exactly, why would a gun nute use an assault rifle to #1.. kill firefighters? #2. knowing they are trying to take them away from people and he does not agree with it, and #3. does it at the worst possible time making all gun owners look bad?

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    • @Vorna Because he's crazy? Crazy people don't care about timing. I don't think taking guns away is the answer, but I also don't think more guns is the solution. We need to figure out a mandatory way that allows only the owner of a gun to access it. No more everyone in the family knows the combo and where the gun is. No more your my friend, I keep my gun under my bed or in the closet. People need to secure their weapons. I'm talking safe and deadbolted to the floor. Only the owner should know the More..

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    • @Vorna Oh and one last thing. I know, access incase of emergency is important. That's why I propose someone using all of that technology to have a hand print easy scan or some shit the govt already has.... make the technology cheap (cost wise not production) and let's do this. You can keep your guns but someone is going to need to cut ur arm off to get it from u lol

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    • @NickScantic

      Label someone crazy and you do not need to provide proof on the motive.
      Done.

      Crazy people do not just randomly get up one day and decide to kill 20 children just for the hell of it. You need to research more into the mentally disabled. They as well normally have a reason why they want to kill someone. Not just "Because".

      Crazy is now considered a word , like magic. "Just because".

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    • @Vorna Oh I don't disagree with that. I def think we need to overhaul the healthcare system and provide better care if we are going ask such crazy prices etc. People need to be better taken care of for their money. But that being said... I think we also need to make guns more accessible for those who are deemed legal to own them. A way of storing but easy access for only the owner. And a much harder way for someone else to obtain the weapon. You can help crazy people (mental disorders), but you More..

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  • The shooter did time for killing his mother in 1981 and they let him out in 1996 or something... why the hell was he ever let out of prison?

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  • I'M getting real tired of these fucking cowards going on killing spree's! i dont give a fuck what your pussy ass has been through... or what was done to you! if you wanna off yourself thats just fine! but to do the most cowardly thing and go kill innocent people because you're too much of a pussy to handle life. well it gets no lower than that!!! congratulations you fucking cowards! you can kill unarmed innocent people! so brave of you. :/

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  • The shooter killed his grandma with a hammer and they let him out for good behavior after just a few years, he should have been executed back then.

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  • Being an upstate New Yorker myself, it hits close to home when listening to that audio.

    The sick fuck that did this was a demented old man that intentionally set the fire as an ambush for the firefighters. He was a convicted felon that killed his own grandmother in 1980, so legally he wasn't allowed to own or handle the guns he used in the shooting. There's an investigation going on to determine where he stole the guns from or who supplied them to him. My state has some of the strictest gun law More..

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  • This is some crazy stuff you guys got going on over there. You can only really do two things to stop it, more firearm controls or stop reporting it on the news everytime some nutter does something like this.

    Unfortunately nutters with guns are now wanting their 15 minutes of fame and come up with more disturbing ways to get it.

    Ar well, RIP to some great guys again by the sounds of it.

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  • R.I.P. Brave men... and i hope the bastard who have done this, his death was not quick...

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  • Maybe the NRA will call for firefighters to be armed now? or have an armed security guard following them."The only way to stop a bad gunman is a good gunman"-NRA

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  • you never shoot a figherfighter...WTF

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  • Medics and firemen are off limits. Wtf.

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    • @weirdpyramid The point is they're unarmed you idiot.

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    • @weirdpyramid "Cryptic" message? Sorry, your right....I'll dumb it down for you specifically in the future. My bad. It appears others could figure it out. The context of this is "first responders"....why you couldn't figure that out by just viewing/listening to the audio is beyond me.

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  • I have to commend the firefighter. Down and injured, after seeing his coworkers shot by a madmen, with him still in the area and hiding under his firetruck and his transmissions are textbook. Gave relevent updates, wasn't panicking and didn't clog up airtime. Thoughts are with the families of the deceased and all involved with the incident.

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  • This fire fighter showed amazing composure knowing he was shot and two of his brothers are probably dead on scene. God bless these brave men.

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  • MAKES ME SICK TO LISTEN TO THIS.....I WANT TO PUKE !
    JUST RIPES MY HEART OUT !
    I'M A SOBBING MESS !

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  • In some places, rifleman should be assigned to each fire brigade. Webster, NY isn't one of those places. These were volunteer firefighters, i.e. small town, rural USA. These boys do it out of the goodness of their hearts. When something like this happens, you can't wait for the deputies to show up from forty miles away. The info from 312 has to go out beyond official channels to the community at large, so help shows up immediately. Believe me, everybody with a hunting rifle will show up to rescu More..

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  • RIP

    Now I think I understand what all the fema camps will be used for!

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  • who the fuck shoots firefighters? they are only there to help. why not be a man and shoot at someone who is at least armed.

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  • How does a convicted hardened murdering criminal easily get an assault rifle? Gun shows. Craigslist. Garage sales you name it. It shouldn't be happening in a civilized society. The problem is we are not civilized.

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    • @texase30

      *Face Palm*

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    • @Vorna Don't hurt yourself while smashing your face against your fist.

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    • @texase30 It's because we have an over-saturation of these weapons due to legality. The black market is flooded with them. Simple supply and demand. They are also ripe for the picking for thieves with all the legal gun owners sleeping etc. A ban of semi-autos and tight regulation of the rest is pretty fucking obvious. Though gun nuts will try to justify the illogical by saying more guns equate to more safety. These dead firefighters prove that wrong. Along with all the other statistics and More..

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    • @texase30 Gun control isn't the problem. Gun ownership is the problem. Nobody should be allowed to carry guns... licensed or not. America's fucked. Thank god I don't live there because I sure as hell won't be visiting there any time soon.

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    • @Lllarrry Really? majority of Americans civilized? The other day on a road rage video from Australia... where a guy was punching the windscreen and being aggressive... a bunch of Americans said in America they would pull out their gun and shoot him and it wouldn't happen there.

      So instead of an incident where someone is angry and takes it out physically on a windscreen before calming down..... Americans think it is ok to turn it into a murder or even murder/suicide.

      And you reckon you fuckers More..

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  • Fuck our gun laws!..and fuck the NRA!..our country is seriously fucked up!...my mates mom got shot 3 mths ago by a crazy neighbour when she was putting her trash out at 2am!...the neighbour said she thought it was a burglar ffs!.....seriously our country is fucked up!..One can only guess at the reasons this psycho shot innocent firemen..but i do know if the guns he had weren't so easily available am sure these crazy situations wouldn't be so common!

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  • Now two families are without a family member because of some scum bag....you can blame the gun if you want to.. Or you will see that this guy need mental help a long time ago and never got it.

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    • @critterchops As many, many people in your society. With many of them claiming the right to wear arms. Giving more people arms will lead to more gun related accidents. The NRA makes one big mistake. People are not simply dividable in 'good' guys and 'bad' guys. Some 'good' guys will turn out to be 'bad', due to circumstances in life. Just as bad people are capable becoming a 'good' person.

      That's why allowing citizens to wear guns is the dumbest thing on earth. Two weeks ago a bunch of children More..

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    • @Lllarrry Better compare the US figures of gun related incidents with those in countries with civilized gunlaws, not with your own.

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    • @NLQwertyNL Why not compare Chicago to Texas or Arizona? Chicago has a no-carry law. The other two don't. Take a guess on which has a higher crime rate.

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    • @NLQwertyNL

      Most gun deaths are not accidents, they are homicides.

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    • @SonTerrific I live just outside of chicago and heard the gunshots of someone getting killed. In the summer on weekends there are like 5 homicides a night and most of them arent even getting solved. chicago is scary

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  • He mentioned an assault rifle so whoever shows up to rescue him and the other firefighter know what they are dealing with.

    Such a sad state of affairs...and even more sad to watch all these idiots turn this in to an argument about gun control.

    I feel so terribly for these men and their families who will now spend celebrating Christmas tomorrow without a loved one. Horrible horrible stuff.

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  • OMG! So the guy on the line with dispatch, who is so calmly and casually directing LE with scene size up, suspect location, and casualty info for quite some time, has actually been shot twice. I would not have guessed since it sounds like a casual interview... Only until 2:46 "...I'm struck in the lower back and lower leg..." True hero for diminishing his own circumstance in favor of the greater good! My prayers to all.

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