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This mornings Face the Nation comment on Blackwater

from crooksandliars.com - Face the Nation host Bob Schiefferís commentary was on the recent Blackwater massacre in Iraq and the Bush administrationís lack of oversight and accountability.

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Added: Oct-7-2007 
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  • When you are working in a very dangerous environment you are going to more reactive if you are a private contractor. You do not have the backup the military has. You do not have those expensive armoured vehicles and you can't call in an airstrike when in a bad situation. So these incidents, as regrettable as they are - will happen. The government can't have it's cake and eat it as well. They are saving money by using private contractors but cannot expect them to abide by the same rules of e More..

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  • The bottom line is that the strategy was flawed from the beginning of the invasion. I don't support mercenaries and never will. Our military could have and can accomplish what these above-the-law fake soldiers are doing. If the recommendation for at least 250,000 troops was implemented this would have never happened, and more than likely our troops wouldn't be in the mess they are now.

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  • oh boy. everyone just has to take a shot at blackwater now.

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  • unix-spider: "The bottom line is that the strategy was flawed from the beginning of the invasion. I don't support mercenaries and never will. Our military could have and can accomplish what these above-the-law fake soldiers are doing. If the recommendation for at least 250,000 troops was implemented this would have never happened, and more than likely our troops wouldn't be in the mess they are now."
    I agree on the flawed part...and the troop surge. But the fact remains that these More..

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  • ok mr shieffer.. you go to iraq (so you can see for your self) instead of believing second hand, half-truth propaganda. lets see who escorts you around there and keeps your pompous ass alive.

    i'm sick and tired of media bandwagon hearsay.

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  • 111: "i watched cspan this morning and one of these thugs shot a guard while he was drunk.he was fired,fined and sent home within two days of the killing. "
    but he did not pay for killing a human in cold blood

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  • 111: "i watched cspan this morning and one of these thugs shot a guard while he was drunk.he was fired,fined and sent home within two days of the killing. "
    Also if you track his name like Us congress did you will find he was not only sent home but Hired by Another Contractor and back in Iraq in a week. He was not fined just fired, Blackwater paid the family 15 to 20 thousand dollars of the Victem and Kept it Quite. That is being Examined now by your Investigative Commity

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  • DontAgree: "When you are working in a very dangerous environment you are going to more reactive if you are a private contractor. You do not have the backup the military has. You do not have those expensive armoured vehicles and you can't call in an airstrike when in a bad situation. So these incidents, as regrettable as they are - will happen. The government can't have it's cake and eat it as well. They are saving money by using private contractors but cannot expect them to abide by the same rules of engagement; in my opinion."
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  • popehat: "
    bushypamper: "oh boy. everyone just has to take a shot at blackwater now."
    I have no problem with armed private security companies supporting the troops, but Blackwater has become a private army unto itself with it's fingers in too many government pies. Don't forget, their allegiance is to making money and not defending the constitution. If their loyalty is only to money, I wouldn't trust them."
    i trust them with my life

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  • First off... This is a direct result of the downsizing of our military by everyone knows who !. 2nd I am not going to hop on the bandwagon media until I see an investigation completed. If people were killed in cold blood they should face the same punishment as regular soldiers would.

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  • DontAgree: "When you are working in a very dangerous environment you are going to more reactive if you are a private contractor. You do not have the backup the military has. You do not have those expensive armoured vehicles and you can't call in an airstrike when in a bad situation. So these incidents, as regrettable as they are - will happen. The government can't have it's cake and eat it as well. They are saving money by using private contractors but cannot expect them to abide by the same rules of engagement; in my opinion."
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  • rightbehindyou: "First off... This is a direct result of the downsizing of our military by everyone knows who !. 2nd I am not going to hop on the bandwagon media until I see an investigation completed. If people were killed in cold blood they should face the same punishment as regular soldiers would. "
    I agree. Yup the people bitch and whine about sending to many troops....so to please them we downsize and send in contractors to fill the void.

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  • I wasn't Blackwater at Abu Ghraib so it has nothing to do with haven't the military there versus a contractor wake up Schieffer you don't know a thing about the Military. Your a coward in a suit thats all you will ever be dumb ass

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  • lasrever: "
    DontAgree: "When you are working in a very dangerous environment you are going to more reactive if you are a private contractor. You do not have the backup the military has. You do not have those expensive armoured vehicles and you can't call in an airstrike when in a bad situation. So these incidents, as regrettable as they are - will happen. The government can't have it's cake and eat it as well. They are saving money by using private contractors but cannot expect them to abide by the same rules of engagement; in my opinion."
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    It is true - billions have been unaccounted for. However, this is not surprising given the task: to completely rebuild a country whose infrastructure has been destroyed. It would have been impossible to get on with this job without fast tracking normal audit and accountability practises - and this shortfall can only be expected. Note - this is not to say it was misappropriated, that is a different thing.
    As regards the cost of contractor soldier vs army soldier: even though the privateer is earning three times the salary, this is still cheaper when you consider the contextual costs of the army solder; pensions, military backup support,long term contracts, insurance etc. It is also a very convenient way for the government to indirectly benefit from retired troopers without the costs of reinlistment.

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  • its not an issue of money which people are discussing here but whats right and wrong. blackwater is the private murdering machine of the liars in the white house besided their army.

    it should answer for any crimes committed by its mercenarys under iraqi law meaning death penalty for death. i am sure you have all seen how these band of killers are shooting up cars in iraq for fun and killing while drunk??? does that mean that exempt you from the law??
    this kind of behaviour can only be justi More..

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  • bodyelectric: "its not an issue of money which people are discussing here but whats right and wrong. blackwater is the private murdering machine of the liars in the white house besided their army.

    it should answer for any crimes committed by its mercenarys under iraqi law meaning death penalty for death. i am sure you have all seen how these band of killers are shooting up cars in iraq for fun and killing while drunk??? does that mean that exempt you from the law??
    this kind of behaviour can only be justified by you european bastards as its very normal for you to be perverse against i More..
    This is a strange argument. How can these private operators being answerable to Iraqi Law when the reason for them being there in the first place is the lack of law in Iraq.
    Also, how can you say to them - go on and do this job in Iraq, provide security to our diplomats etc, but it would not be a good idea to use your guns otherwise you could be sent to an Iraqi prison where you may be hung if the verdict goes wrong?
    The real question is not should they be subject to Iraqi laq - but should they be there at all.

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  • bodyelectric: "its not an issue of money which people are discussing here but whats right and wrong. blackwater is the private murdering machine of the liars in the white house besided their army.

    it should answer for any crimes committed by its mercenarys under iraqi law meaning death penalty for death. i am sure you have all seen how these band of killers are shooting up cars in iraq for fun and killing while drunk??? does that mean that exempt you from the law??
    this kind of behaviour can only be justified by you european bastards as its very normal for you to be perverse against i More..
    There was only one incident of a BW contractor murdering someone while drunk. That person was FIRED, FINED, and his case turned over to the Justice department. Our employer has as much right to detain us as yours does..ZERO. It would be stupid and silly to judge everyone and assume they are all doing it because of one person. It's like saying "All postal workers are killers" " or as of the latest incident where on cop killed 5 at a party..."All cops are killers".

    As for shooting cars up for fun? Procedure as determined by the State Dep. and Military who do eactly the same thing is if a vehicle approaches with in 100 meters, red flags and warning fire should be used, if vehicle still persists, disabling fire into the engine is authorized. This is all dictated by the insurgents who drive up to convoys and detonate. Again to say BW is going around shooting up cars for fun is inaccurate at best.

    Respectfully
    Dhibbs

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