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Combating Fitna

To ensure freedom of expression is not compromised, moderates on both sides should step in to find a sustainable mechanism to bridge the divides in our globalised world, in which racism and radicalism have a devastating effect on everyone, says Ibrahim El Houdaiby.


CAIRO - Last week, Dutch MP Geert Wilders released his movie Fitna, attacking Muslims and the Qur'an, amidst wide international worries that airing the movie would only lead to further cross-cultural tensions, and perhaps violence. Influential Muslim figures, including some Salafi Saudi scholars, had threatened to boycott the Netherlands while official figures in Iran threatened to review diplomatic relations with the country if the film was aired. Once again, the overall cross-cultural scene seemed less than promising.

Thankfully, the reaction of Danish Muslims was sedate. However, it is clear that people like Wilde

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Added: Apr-4-2008 
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Tags: Fitna, Geert Wilders, Moderate, Extremist, Islam
Location: Cairo, Al Qahirah, Egypt (load item map)
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  • Boilerhouse: "For the Islamists, and Muslims.
    when you travel to a friendly country or into your neighbours house you do not deficate on the kitchen floor.
    what the muslims have been doing for a long time, is come into your house and crapping on your floor. Then the Muslim complains about the stink that they just dumped.
    Western Europe didn't ask for the Muslims to give up their religion, all they asked was respect the host country. But in traditions of Islam, and the fact their religion will not recognize the host country, the Muslims crap all over the place and blame the host for inv More..
    I'm Christian, but I'll crap on your "kitchen floor" anytime I want, because you are a Zionist tool!

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  • Aninsidejob: "Use your brain. Fitna is propaganda crafted to stir-up more violence & hatred toward Muslims. "
    muslims are doing just fine causing hatred toward them!

    Civilized People has ALWAYS rejected and hated islam.

    and fitna only showed the actions and words of muslims!

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  • JihadKiller1s1k: "
    Ezedeen: "
    U-tube: "The fitna movie attacked Islam, not muslims per se.
    "
    Thats the whole point. Attack Muslims, not Islam.

    Islam is perfect, Muslims are not -----Yvonne Ridley"
    islam SUCKS ASS!

    some muslims are good

    islam is evil
    "
    You post pure Zionist propaganda!

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  • Don't give us that line about racism and intolerance being devastating for everyone "in this globalized world"...wtf is a globalized world anyways huh? Is that like a shelled egg? Maybe a person with skin? An air-tight atmosphere?

    whatever.

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  • JayStubbs: "Tolerance is the answer, not propaganda like Fitna. I mean, was the footage on Fitna really a surprise to anyone? Had anyone not seen that footage before? It's old news, man. Muslim violence has been well documented, to say the least. Wilders isn't trying to open eyes, he's rubbing it in our faces. Either that or he's been living under a rock for the last decade, and hasn't noticed Islam/Western conflicts. He's alienating and marginalizing Muslims. He might as well start recruiting Jihadis.

    I haven't heard much from American Muslims. Could it be that America is more More..
    On the contrary... it speaks the truth. It gives facts....

    If nothing else it might at last stir up the vast majority of peaceful muslims to react against the evil in their midst. When we stop telling the truth, even though we have said it a million times, we may as well give in to evil.

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  • Aninsidejob: "
    Boilerhouse: "For the Islamists, and Muslims.
    when you travel to a friendly country or into your neighbours house you do not deficate on the kitchen floor.
    what the muslims have been doing for a long time, is come into your house and crapping on your floor. Then the Muslim complains about the stink that they just dumped.
    Western Europe didn't ask for the Muslims to give up their religion, all they asked was respect the host country. But in traditions of Islam, and the fact their religion will not recognize the host country, the Muslims crap all over the place and bla More..
    I'm Christian, but I'll crap on your "kitchen floor" anytime I want, because you are a Zionist tool!"
    we got also muhjis aboard with us flags, at least no matter what you are, you can be everything here also backward speaking budgie or a hindu with a buddhist philosophy etcetera :)

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  • I'd like to see a bomb dropped on Mecca. The muslims have been desecrating all other religous sites for decades, nows our turn!

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  • drosser: "
    JayStubbs: "Tolerance is the answer, not propaganda like Fitna. I mean, was the footage on Fitna really a surprise to anyone? Had anyone not seen that footage before? It's old news, man. Muslim violence has been well documented, to say the least. Wilders isn't trying to open eyes, he's rubbing it in our faces. Either that or he's been living under a rock for the last decade, and hasn't noticed Islam/Western conflicts. He's alienating and marginalizing Muslims. He might as well start recruiting Jihadis.

    I haven't heard much from American Muslims. Could it be that More..
    On the contrary... it speaks the truth. It gives facts....

    If nothing else it might at last stir up the vast majority of peaceful muslims to react against the evil in their midst. When we stop telling the truth, even though we have said it a million times, we may as well give in to evil."
    Good point about getting moderate Muslims to react. Very true. I'm not suggesting we stop telling the truth. The truth, as you stated, is that extreme Islam is a fraction of the Muslim population. The film doesn't address this at all. It makes a generalization that implies that all, not some, Muslims are radical. I think this is counterproductive to Muslim/West problems.

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  • For the Islamists, and Muslims.
    when you travel to a friendly country or into your neighbours house you do not deficate on the kitchen floor.
    what the muslims have been doing for a long time, is come into your house and crapping on your floor. Then the Muslim complains about the stink that they just dumped.
    Western Europe didn't ask for the Muslims to give up their religion, all they asked was respect the host country. But in traditions of Islam, and the fact their religion will not recogniz More..

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  • Why is this posted here, should be your say as it is obviously an opinion piece...

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  • Tolerance is the answer, not propaganda like Fitna. I mean, was the footage on Fitna really a surprise to anyone? Had anyone not seen that footage before? It's old news, man. Muslim violence has been well documented, to say the least. Wilders isn't trying to open eyes, he's rubbing it in our faces. Either that or he's been living under a rock for the last decade, and hasn't noticed Islam/Western conflicts. He's alienating and marginalizing Muslims. He might as well start recruiting Jihad More..

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  • JihadKiller1s1k: "
    Ezedeen: "
    U-tube: "The fitna movie attacked Islam, not muslims per se.
    "
    Thats the whole point. Attack Muslims, not Islam.

    Islam is perfect, Muslims are not -----Yvonne Ridley"
    islam SUCKS ASS!

    some muslims are good

    islam is evil
    "
    How many Muslims have you known in your life? Have you even met one? Seen one, besides TV?

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  • The fitna movie attacked Islam, not muslims per se.

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  • Use your brain. Fitna is propaganda crafted to stir-up more violence & hatred toward Muslims.

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  • Ezedeen: "
    U-tube: "The fitna movie attacked Islam, not muslims per se.
    "
    Thats the whole point. Attack Muslims, not Islam.

    Islam is perfect, Muslims are not -----Yvonne Ridley"
    islam SUCKS ASS!

    some muslims are good

    islam is evil

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  • JayStubbs: "
    JihadKiller1s1k: "
    Ezedeen: "
    U-tube: "The fitna movie attacked Islam, not muslims per se.
    "
    Thats the whole point. Attack Muslims, not Islam.

    Islam is perfect, Muslims are not -----Yvonne Ridley"
    islam SUCKS ASS!

    some muslims are good

    islam is evil
    "
    How many Muslims have you known in your life? Have you even met one? Seen one, besides TV?"
    probably passed one on the street and figured between that and anti-Muslim propaganda on th More..

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  • U-tube: "The fitna movie attacked Islam, not muslims per se.
    "
    Thats the whole point. Attack Muslims, not Islam.

    Islam is perfect, Muslims are not -----Yvonne Ridley

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  • JayStubbs: "
    drosser: "
    JayStubbs: "Tolerance is the answer, not propaganda like Fitna. I mean, was the footage on Fitna really a surprise to anyone? Had anyone not seen that footage before? It's old news, man. Muslim violence has been well documented, to say the least. Wilders isn't trying to open eyes, he's rubbing it in our faces. Either that or he's been living under a rock for the last decade, and hasn't noticed Islam/Western conflicts. He's alienating and marginalizing Muslims. He might as well start recruiting Jihadis.

    I haven't heard much from American Muslims. More..
    On the contrary... it speaks the truth. It gives facts....

    If nothing else it might at last stir up the vast majority of peaceful muslims to react against the evil in their midst. When we stop telling the truth, even though we have said it a million times, we may as well give in to evil."
    Good point about getting moderate Muslims to react. Very true. I'm not suggesting we stop telling the truth. The truth, as you stated, is that extreme Islam is a fraction of the Muslim population. The film doesn't address this at all. It makes a generalization that implies that all, not some, Muslims are radical. I think this is counterproductive to Muslim/West problems."
    and that is exactly the problem, yes

    thank you, Jay. am continually grateful for your presence on this site (you too, theblue8)

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  • lasrever: "
    JayStubbs: "
    drosser: "
    JayStubbs: "Tolerance is the answer, not propaganda like Fitna. I mean, was the footage on Fitna really a surprise to anyone? Had anyone not seen that footage before? It's old news, man. Muslim violence has been well documented, to say the least. Wilders isn't trying to open eyes, he's rubbing it in our faces. Either that or he's been living under a rock for the last decade, and hasn't noticed Islam/Western conflicts. He's alienating and marginalizing Muslims. He might as well start recruiting Jihadis.

    I haven't heard much from Ame More..
    On the contrary... it speaks the truth. It gives facts....

    If nothing else it might at last stir up the vast majority of peaceful muslims to react against the evil in their midst. When we stop telling the truth, even though we have said it a million times, we may as well give in to evil."
    Good point about getting moderate Muslims to react. Very true. I'm not suggesting we stop telling the truth. The truth, as you stated, is that extreme Islam is a fraction of the Muslim population. The film doesn't address this at all. It makes a generalization that implies that all, not some, Muslims are radical. I think this is counterproductive to Muslim/West problems."
    and that is exactly the problem, yes

    thank you, Jay. am continually grateful for your presence on this site (you too, theblue8)"
    Thanks man.

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  • JihadKiller1s1k: "
    Aninsidejob: "Use your brain. Fitna is propaganda crafted to stir-up more violence & hatred toward Muslims. "
    muslims are doing just fine causing hatred toward them!

    Civilized People has ALWAYS rejected and hated islam.

    and fitna only showed the actions and words of muslims!

    "
    you're speaking on behalf of civilized people?

    lol...

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  • thumbing up your own comments doesn't make them any more relevant, either...

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  • Aninsidejob: "Use your brain. Fitna is propaganda crafted to stir-up more violence & hatred toward Muslims. "
    this should be obvious to most people -- but then again this is Liveleak

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