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The family reacted angrily, accusing Sanford police of maligning their son

what about georges reputation??? the one where we find out he tutors visible minorities for free, the reputation that he gives up his spare time making sure neighbors he most likely doesnt even talk to or know other then a last name bases and a street number and for the fact they live in that house on the corner of that street in which he decided to patrol the streets for NO MONEY

FACTS

-911 call placed by george
-no racial profiling ,words were "suspicious person"
-at the start of the 911 call he had (thought) he was black when asked by dispatch
-white,hispanics,asian,blacks,arabs,russians ect can all be "suspicious"
-zimmerman was asked to describe the suspicious person "resulting in him using the words "black male"
-zimmerman confirmed treyvon was black for a second time when treyvon was walking towards him
-its not racist when giving "white,hispanic or black" as options and picking "black" as the truthful description of who you are reporting about
-its not a crime to report what you think are suspicious activities
-zimmerman told dispatch the suspicious person was running
-zimmerman was told not to follow him and said "OK"
-zimmerman lost sight of treyvon
-zimmerman told dispatch for the officer to call his cell phone when he got in the area
-between zimmermans 911 call from witness's 911 call no one but Zimmerman and treyvon know what happened
-witness calls 911 says two individuals were fighting
-screams could be heard from the background of neighbors 911 call
-gun shot could be heard
-zimmerman was the owner of the firearm and confessed he shot treyvon
-treyvon died of 1 gun shot wound to the chest
-zimmerman's nose was broke, back of head bleeding and had grass stains on his back
-witness reports say the man in the red sweater(zimmerman) was on his back while the other individual was on top
-zimmermans grass stains broke nose and bloodied head must have happened before treyvon was shot
-zimmerman tutored kids of all races for free
-Florida's "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force to defend themselves anywhere they feel a reasonable fear of death or serious injury

OPINIONS
-zimmerman is a racist
-zimmerman continued to follow treyvon after being asked to stop
-zimmerman shot treyvon for being black
-zimmerman shot treyvon in "cold blood" (definiton of cold blood-if you do something, especially kill someone, in cold blood, you do it in a way which is cruel because you plan it and do it without emotion-without feeling; with cruel intent.)
-Zimmerman murdered treyvon (definition of murder- the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another
-Zimmerman was actively looking for trouble


As you can see if you take any opinion and place it next to the facts that i have provided ,the opinion by itself holds no water, and the opinion next to to the facts becomes EXTREMELY questionable. Please provide an opinion i have stated that hold grounds that zimmerman should be charged with either a hate crime, murder, manslaughter or all of the above.

 
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Added: Mar-27-2012 
By: Noalias
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  • Blacks seem to always blow things out of proportion...typical racist crap.

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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  • I will reply to myself and pick out the opinions that dont match the facts

    Zimmerman is not a racist (added bonus of being white and Hispanic at the same time)

    Zimmerman did not shoot Martin for being black. Zimmerman shot Martin because they got into a fight! We can go into detail of what justifies climaxing from a fist fight to the use of a deadly weapon but under the Stand your Ground law its specificly says life in danger( which we can agree his life was not) but it does say if serious inj More..

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • Comment of user 'Univert' has been deleted by author!
    • @Univert the last part was just my opinion on gun laws. take it or leave you cant dismiss the fact martin wouldnt have been shot of conceal weapon permits were not issued in the state of florida. thats all i was saying. Everyone else gets an opinion i was merely stating a fact. If i lived in Florida your fucking right i would conceal carry, do i think its a good thing, no!

      Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @Noalias
      Without a gun Zimmerman likely wouldn't have been in that situation, but if he was, he could be dead now.
      I like gun control because it reduces the number of shootings that occur as a result of quick tempers, like when someone pisses you off and you cannot help but confront them. Waking up with a bruise, scrape, or break is better than not waking up at all.

      btw, better to use a Canadian spell checker (neighbourhood, defence)

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    • @Univert Great comment and Avatar. You left out the part where if Zimmerman didn't have the gun he could of died on the curb, wether it was in Canada or Florida. Sorry meant this towards Noalias.

      Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @99MonteZ34 using an IPAD sorry

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  • Fact: Neighborhood watch are not supposed to carry weapons.
    Fact: Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and did, for a time, stalk Trayvon.
    Fact: Neighborhood watch are told not to pursue or follow suspicious individuals.
    Fact: If you stalk someone, looking for confrontation, you can hardly claim self defense once you've found it.


    Fact: This isn't about race, I hate black people just as much as the next guy, it's about someone initiating a confrontation, killing, and then claiming self defense.

    More..

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @dakine what neighborhood is this ( so i never go there)?

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    • @dakine

      Nope, you are incorrect. The policy is that you do NOTHING MORE than call police, and that's it.

      Now, the "policy" and "practice" are two differenct things. In this case, if Zimmerman followed the policy and did nothing more than call the police, Zimmerman would be going about his usual day and Martin would still be alive.

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    • @khartoba
      You are fucked up. I don't "hate back PEOPLE" I hate black criminals and white criminals equally. I know the statistics and can't dispute them. Still, can't lump an entire section of the population into one category!

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    • @khartoba good point.That is if martin didnt attack him.He had a job to do.What was martin doing.?? just an innocent gang banger scouting the commmunity??

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  • Its blatantly obvious the media and the left wing FAILED MISERABLY again to promote their pro-black agenda...

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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  • whats going to happen is, they are not going to let Zimmerman off scott free. Hes going to serve time for something. He will be a scapegoat...JUST LIKE Martin will also be. This is how this shit works. Pathetic.

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @eeep its sad because your right, they will feel obligated to give him something knowing fullwell he truely doesnt deserve it, id take a 2 year in a miniumim security with a couple million in a under the table deal from the governemnt... think about the millions of dollars in damage that were saved by not convicting oj, the millions that were watsed after the LA riots on clean up and damage, and the millions that will be spent on police in riot gear and damage when he doesnt get convicted of any More..

      Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @eeep I agree with you, he will get something and it won't be enough to satisfy the protesters and riots will commence.

      Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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  • Story out now that George Zimmerman is a registered democrat and list himself as Hispanic...
    http://freebeacon.com/registered-dem-killed-trayvon/

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • Comment of user 'dakine' has been deleted by author!
  • black guy attacks white guy, black guy gets killed by self defense. the white guy must be racist!

    this is only a big deal because a whitish looking mexican killed a black guy, if a black guy killed another black guy, no one would give two fucks.

    what about if a black guy kills a white man.... oh wait yeah, that happens every day and makes the local headlines.

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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  • Comment of user 'RUGOUTFROMUNDER-U' has been deleted by moderator!
  • The facts will come out little by little.The racists will just ignore them.

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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  • Glad to see poll getting lots of activity. Just wish it was my stripper pole in my master bedroom

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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  • We could simply re-open the case and have the facts stand for themselves instead of playing this stupid race-baiting game.

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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  • Maybe it was Martin that was "standing his ground" and got shot for it.

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    • @JibberJabber
      That's the only argument the Martin family has left.

      Witnesses have stated that Martin was on top of Zimmerman, and Zimmerman certainly had the wounds associated w/ the witnesses accounts.

      The family would have to prove that Martin feared for his life and attacked Zimmerman as a response to imminent danger.

      That would be quit a task.

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    • @JibberJabber not when you look at the facts, did you know he was black?
      /case

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    • @VoteYesonNo--"prove that Martin feared for his life and attacked Zimmerman"
      When you "ATTACK" someone you are not "standing your ground", you are ATTACKING--no defense.

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  • Are we suppose to believe that Martin did everything to avoid this confrontation? How is it that Martin - young high school football player, in shape and athletic - ended up on the ground with Zimmerman when he could have easily ran away? What chance would Zimmerman, 28, and apparently out of shape, have at catching Martin in a foot chase?

    Posted Mar-28-2012 By 

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  • He's going to walk and fires are going to start.

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @zindo why? You have no proper response for that Im sure. All they are going to do if that happens is burn down the black neighborhoods, then what will be left.

      Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @Wowzers1

      How many riots can you remember?
      They always riot and with Al and Jackson around it's going to happen.... again

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    • Comment of user 'dakine' has been deleted by author!
    • @zindo i was in the middle of the 1992 one in los angeles. I saw fires and chaos, and looting. It took the cops and feds weeks to put it down. I armed up after that since it was crystal clear to me from what i saw, that the cops and government were really a lot weaker then they appeared to be in normal times.

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  • Having just voted team Zimmerman, I have read that Zimmerman has an arrest record. One charge being reported is assault on a police officer. Does Florida issue gun permits to people with priors? I know in Indiana you have to have a pretty squeaky clean record to get concealed carry, nothing serious, not even DUI, certainly nothing violence related. I think the Florida legislature bears some responsibility here with the wording of Stand Your Ground, and requirements for gun permits. Don't get me More..

    Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @Eluf-ant
      The case was expunged so he was not a felon.

      Had the charges gone through he would not have been allowed his CCW.

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    • @Eluf-ant you know i like your reasoning, some americans think its a right to carry a firearm i know i know, the snd blah blah blah, but you seem to ahve a head on your choulders about who and who shouldnt have a firearm,. He had priors, he should not have been allowed to have a conceal permit or any firearms for that matter. Here in canada we can only aquire restriced firearms (hand guns) if we join a gun club ( shooting range). Its so strict that you if you loose 11 of your 14 demerit point yo More..

      Posted Mar-27-2012 By 

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    • @VoteYesonNo - My application asked if you have ever been arrested as well as any convictions, I'm sure the laws vary state to state.

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    • @Noalias - From what little I know of Canadian gun laws, I'd say they're to restrictive. The lower rates of violent crime in Canada is due more to the 2.5% black population you enjoy, sorry but the numbers don't lie. We might argue the cause of those statistical dis parodies, but that doesn't keep me and my property safe.

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    • @Eluf-ant my property is safe our homes a far less chnace of being brokin into then an american home, and you guys are allowed to use your firearms in defence. im not, if i shoot an intruder who is breaking into my house i will go to jail for 2nd degree murder, manslaughter if im lucky. Gun laws to restrictive you say? no such thing, there is no reason for civilians to have fire arms. other then pure enjoyment at a shooting range

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