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Now that Obama is pretty much guaranteed 4 more years. How do we keep from killing each other?

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Added: Apr-10-2012 Occurred On: Apr-10-2012
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  • Great YourSay Big T.

    The America I want is an America where hard work is rewarded, where we give people in need a hand up, not a handout. We have an America now where over 50% of our population gets a government check. This is unsustainable. The entrepreneurs of our nation cannot continue providing for those who refuse to do their share. We must all work to make things better for all. I will do everything I can to bring that great America of my childhood back, even if that means working togethe More..

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    • @brokenrob I realize that, question is, how do we meet in the middle? Rational thinkers aren't the problem, you realize there are two sides to a story. The problem is people who don't recognize that, there lies the rub.

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  • Reports of Obama's victory are somewhat premature.

    Gridlock is preferable to the continued consolidation of Federal power.

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    • @john1054 come on John, evangelicals won't vote for magic underwear, and both sides are chasing pipe-dreams, the question was, try and provide a viable alternative.

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    • @tarnoch Trust me the Evangelicals will vote Romney...you watch too much main stream media. Those Evangelicals will be doing Conga lines to vote what they view as a Socialist BLACK radical.

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    • @AngriBanshee no one else will, no women, no blacks, no independents, its all over.

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    • @AngriBanshee
      Yup. Jesus freaks don't have any other choice. None. I'm personally going to enjoy watching them squirm voting for a Mormon.
      lol@ the Conga Line reference....

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    • @tarnoch I'm thinking as we get closer to the elections many of those evangelicals will ultimately vote Romney over Obama. Romney has to wear his "pro-life" and "pro-family" hats to do that. We'll see. You may be right.

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  • I like your thinking, however rational thinking doesn't create money in the media outlets.

    At least the Republicans won't be entirely focused on keeping Obama from getting re-elected again. That might help a bit.

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    • @PH-DEE we need rational thinking, badly.

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    • @tarnoch

      We are the most advanced society in history. Just think about that for a moment.

      Why not have military vets try to understand ows and find common ground because if you think this is over you are getting a surprise.

      (Plus bring soap)

      Last. My least favorite topic: Religion.

      The right wing embraces that bigtime and I have a serious problem with that in politics.

      I'm sorry to the religious folks but please keep it out of our laws.

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  • Build American, Buy American, Hire American and start working on alternate energy and transportation. We can also start building an infrastructure for the 21st century, our children deserve it and I for one want to leave something positive for my kids and country's future.

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    • @LIONIDAS Going to have to bring back production to the US and that in itself will be no easy feat.

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    • @tarnoch The companies that refuse to come back should be boycotted and new businesses should be formed to take their places. It is time American consumers make more informed purchases and quit buying crap that is either sub-standard or completely unnecessary. It really pisses me off that everything wears out in 2 years when it used to last for 30. Quality has been replaced with quantity.

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  • Politicians need to learn that it's ok to "back down" and compromise.
    The tea party set up unrealistic expectations with a lot of folks that by just saying NO, things could be fixed.
    That will never work.
    That will never produce results.
    Governmental powers are divided for a reason and the reason is not gridlock.
    The reason is that ideally, the two sides will have to come together and compromise to get anything done which, again ideally, will produce the greater good for the majority o More..

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    • @Tongueboy Compromise is utter moral corruption. There is NO compromise for and of freedom.

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    • @Rebel_Radius Compromise is the way all great nations have survived and the lack of it is what makes them fail.
      The tricky thing about opinions is that they are only correct for you, and you are a very, very small part of a very large nation.

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    • @Tongueboy Quite the contrary. Under the US constitution (not a under democracy), YOU are the biggest part.

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    • @Rebel_Radius Wrong.
      WE, the people are the biggest part.
      Again, under the constitution the power of government is split 3 ways.
      This is most definitely not so one group or faction can take control.
      This is so all factions must compromise to move forward.
      This government is set up by the constitution to operate on compromise.
      Otherwise you would just have a bunch of punks with guns or a north korea type government.
      The individual is important.
      The nation as a whole, must be equally important.
      If More..

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    • @Tongueboy I agree with compromise as long as it doesnt compromise the constitution... that sounded pretty cool, didn't it?

      But seriously, we do need to take a good look at the constitution and article 1, section 8, and realize that if these guys want to pass laws left and right that they dont have the authority to pass, they need to do it by amendment, not just by passing a new law for congress to replace another every 4 years

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  • I think the main thing is to not sit around and protest and try to point fingers about who caused what problem but rather, come together to unite communities and try to just make things better. Americas prime concern is stimulating the economy and creating long term jobs at home. Not some shitty telemarketer center or wall marts opening to give people shit low wage jobs but real jobs that require intelligence and education.....if the population is not educated then that truly is Americas concer More..

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  • I'm NOT an American - NO COMMENT - as per the request of the Posting Party.

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    • @FundtheMental1

      Very true. The news no longer exists.

      When I ask what people thought they were watching "news" added to their daily/future decision making (i.e. what news is suppose to do.....inform you)....the answer was ...."it will be sunny tomorrow".

      Therefore, watch the weather.....and then turn it off.

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    • @FundtheMental1 The people that can be brainwashed by the tvs aren't going to turn them off. I look at the media like the old adage, keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

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    • @FundtheMental1 oh I know many don't, they have it good, for now, and don't want to rock the boat. Again more self centered people knowing something is very wrong but too comfy to do anything about it.

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  • Romney will win! Most well minded people see what Obama is/has done to the U.S. & will put anybody in office before letting him & his croanies get 4 more years to totally destroy the U.S.!

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  • geez, pregnant pause eh?

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    • @tarnoch Its a scary subject bro. No one likes to see what they love tank. Its rough as hell to watch: I'm having a really, really hard time finding any hope in hell that we'll ever 'fully' recover from this all. I wake up every day thinking about it, running the situation top to bottom and I just can't find the hope. One too many generations became so intoxicated by PC and impossible ideals that have been passed down to the 'me generation' which hasn't a clue (regardless of their political More..

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    • @Gene Lythgow Scary indeed, yet something most be done, or at least we have to try.Thanks for the response.

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  • Someone needs to share the Federal budget here, LOL

    Perhaps the Government system itself works, but add the human factor, and no doubt it's all messed up.

    We the People need to come up with new checks and controls to keep our politicians under our control, and not their own greedy needs, or their rich lobbiest buddies. We need to make them accountable to We the People.

    This would take a whole new breed of American Citizen, and I'm sure there are very few that would fit the bill. Everyone More..

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  • Obama won't get back in, you are dreaming.

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    • @Rebel_Radius This is coming from the lady who thinks that Steve-O is actually a super secret illuminati actor who also plays the role of that guy who killed natalie halloway...


      I'm still laughing about that, lol

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    • @86mang75 Who is Steve O and who is Natalie Holloway and what planet are you on?

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    • @Rebel_Radius You actually posted it on your channel a lil while back and told me to watch it.

      The videos about how the NWO is actually using actors to play multiple public figures.

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    • @86mang75 Ah yes! That I did.

      Did you not find it interesting? I certainly did.

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    • @Rebel_Radius Few of them look anything alike, and the cost and process of creating fake people, families, etc. far outweighs the benefit of having the most insignificant bit of influence through choosing a face, when the people in power could very easily let regular people do the regular things they already do and make national news out of nothing like they always do rather than supposedly training actors to pretend they do normal things.

      Do you seriously believe any of that tinfoil hat crap? More..

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  • Am I the only one seeing more arrows than answers here? More of the same except for a couple. Sad state of affairs really.

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  • You and I and a few others here are at that age where we have the maturity and experience to see that our country is headed in a very bad direction, and we think not about ourselves, but of our children and grandchildren. And we feel a certain amount of guilt. Not that we individually have hurt our country, but collectively, as a generation. For it is we - our generation - that is running things, and "we" are doing a horrible job of it.

    And so there are people like you who ask the que More..

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    • @marinemom Looks like you gave this quite a bit of thought MM. Thank you for that and I hope you're wrong and our generation can do something and will soon. My mom taught me that I should clean up my own messes. Did your friend get his jelly bellies yet?

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    • @Rikki_Tikki_Tavi It appears you've seen the movie Fight Club.

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  • I can only think of one answer at the moment,..Ron Paul,lets start by electing a true Statesman to office instead of some High End buy product of Goldman Sachs and Big Media,
    and I would be my bottom dollar America would start turning around within 12 months of ending all Wars and STOP Giving our Money to other Countries,and start using that WAR MONEY to invest into America,...for just once,..
    but that answer is to obvious,..
    cheers T

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    • @SharkGuy Wouldnt that be awesome? Appears the only thing we produce nowadays are weapons.

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    • @tarnoch It's troubling when you can't think up off the top of your head, products that the US makes in large quantities.

      Certianly there are plenty, but when was the last time you heard the media praise our manufacturing?

      How often does a High School teacher or a college professor praise or at the very least, go in depth into US's manufacturing?

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    • @SharkGuy I agree. Though, we would have an inherently large problem once we did stop our wars and close our over seas bases. we'd have an influx of people without a job.

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    • @SharkGuy spot on bro!

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    • @SharkGuy

      I agree 100%. Just a thought/question but structures like the Hoover dam. Does it need to be replaced at some point in time?

      We need to rebuild tons of bridges and other things as well.

      I'm trying to leave gop out of this but the tea party elected to congress are opposing transportation bills now, wtf?

      I totally get wanting Obama out, but at what cost?

      Do we all have to suffer through this because of childish beliefs.

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  • Great idea yet the reality is: you comprise only a tiny breed of true Americans that I'm proud to include myself in...but its a very, very small population. Its no longer left or right; its 'me' and no one else. I'm with you all the way bro but we already lost the country and I think you know that deep down. It drowned a long time ago with a mass influx of immigration and out of control capitalism, greedy unions and an apathetic public. I already cried my tears for the loss of America: and More..

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    • @Gene Lythgow where can you run? the machine is running rampant, and that's a thing that goes against the fiber of the Constitution as well!

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    • @tarnoch So true. And therein lies another good point: who in America thinks we're a constitutional republic anymore? Everyone thinks we're a democracy or that we're capitalist (we're only market based and heavily regulated)??? I know its hard to imagine other places: I find it impossible to think about but if 'our' people have decided to sell US down the river...do you really want to have any part of them? THe people are cowards: afraid to stand up in numbers which is the KEY to change. No More..

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    • @Gene Lythgow

      The same thing could of been said just prior to WWI...out of control immigration, capitalism run amuck, complacent public (for they truly were a "mind your own business" generation).

      I think we've come pretty far in a 100 years.

      All political/economic environments ebb and flow.....and your US heritage is only 275 years. Many more to come.

      It's if we remain static it gets worse. Luckily, our constitution protects our right to change it for the better.

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    • @chauncie True indeed and well said. There are far more safety nets in place nowadays but back then, there was no global economy to speak of: not nearly as complex as it is today and not nearly as reliant on a few small countries who are able to manipulate the entire planets prices. The ebb and flow should have been nipped in the bud already: its not a necessity to have it: its only out of our own ignorance and greed that it happens. It should not be impacting us so badly as it does today. I al More..

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    • @AT0M One small voice struggling to be heard in the tempest and thank you.

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  • I thank you might be giving up too easily !!

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  • A really good topic, Tarnoch. I may not have agreed with many of your stances in regards to income, jobs, etc... but I am right there with you in regards to, where's the middle? It's not so much about the middle as just fixing things.

    We're first going to have to get past or demolish idealogies- and that will take a miracle in itself.

    I agree with MarineMom more or less. We will HAVE to do away with parts of the government that pandor to those with the money.

    I don't think our governmen More..

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    • @LimitedTime Well keep posting the ideas, thats the whole point of this thread and thanks for stepping up. You are absolutely right, spending 7,8,or 9 figures on jobs that pay 6 is a red flag to me as well.

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  • You are 100% right. Unless Obama has colossal f-up (i.e. watergate or the like), the public is not going to vote Romney in(and I vote Republican/libertarian). He's too slick for the masses...and he shares the same heritage as a Kennedy or a Bush (wealth and influence). In today's political environment, the public wants a man of the people who understands the trials and tribulations of most tax payers. Unfortunately, Obama is not that guy either. An incumbent...weak or strong.....typicall More..

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  • It almost seems like the candidates that ran against Obama was set up.
    Surely America has better than that around, to run the country?

    The biggest problem i see from the outside, is a clear lack of accountability. Obama and most other past presidents take none.....even though thats whats needed.


    Vote Papa!

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    • @Freejay Hell yeah it's all been set up. You know that both Santorum and Gingrich only days before each had there first victory they held rallies that either were cancelled due to low attendence, or only had 1 person. This whole nomination has gone off of the media picking candidates to be popular, people voting for them, and then them dropping that candidate. Only 6 corporation control all of our TV, and you can bet your ass they know what that means. Fox makes point A, CNN point B, and MSNBC p More..

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  • As a watcher of US politics from the UK, I could only watch in bemusement and horror at the Republican car wreck theatre show that's been on my screen for the last year... Yup you got Obama wether you like it or not, but what the fuck will happen after the 4 years is up !!! ???? If any of the last crowd had got in i would seriously have to have considered moving to a different planet.. Good luck America you will need alot.

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