US defends 'ethical' drone strikes
The United States government has offered a rare public defence of the use of targeted drone strikes, arguing they are a legal and ethical tool to kill terrorists.
President Barack Obama's top counter-terrorism adviser, John Brennan, used the anniversary of Osama bin Laden's killing to mount a public defence of the ethics and efficiency of military drones.

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"There is nothing in international law that bans the use of remotely piloted aircraft or that prohibits us from using lethal force against our enemies outside of an active battlefield," he said."Targeted strikes are ethical."
Mr Brennan acknowledged there had been civilian deaths caused by drone strikes but insisted casualties were exceedingly rare.
"It is hard to imagine a tool that can better minimise the risk to civilians than remotely piloted aircraft," he said.
"There is absolutely nothing casual about the extraordinary care we take in making the decision to pursue an Al Qaeda terrorist and the lengths to which we go to ensure precision and avoid the loss of innocent life.
"His speech to the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars in Washington was the most detailed justification and description of the drone program yet.US officials have generally been loath to publicly discuss the secretive CIA program, a source of sharp tensions between Washington and Islamabad.
"Broadly speaking, the debate over strikes targeted at individual members of Al Qaeda has centred on their legality, their ethics, the wisdom of using them, and the standards by which they are approved," Mr Brennan said.
"The United States government conducts targeted strikes against specific Al Qaeda terrorists, sometimes using remotely piloted aircraft, often referred to publicly as drones.
"I'm here today because president Obama has instructed us to be more open with the American people about these efforts."
Lawful
Mr Brennan said the strikes had been certified as complying with US law by attorney-general Eric Holder, among other top officials.
"The constitution empowers the president to protect the nation from any imminent threat of attack," he said, adding Mr Obama's action was also authorised by measures passed by Congress after the September 11 attacks.
The killing of suspected militants, including American citizens overseas, has been criticised by human rights and civil liberties groups. Mr Brennan also argued the US drone campaign had left Al Qaeda seriously weakened, and unable to replace wiped-out leaders.
He said Osama bin Laden bemoaned "disaster after disaster" inflicted by the US onslaught on Al Qaeda and even mulled changing his terror group's name.He said Al Qaeda was losing "badly," was a "shadow" of its former self, and that its core leadership would soon be "no longer relevant".
He said the Al Qaeda leader's frustration at the demise of his group poured out in documents seized from his Pakistan compound by US Navy SEAL commandos who killed him a year ago.
"He confessed to 'disaster after disaster'" for Al Qaeda, Mr Brennan said, noting that some of the captured material would be published online this week by the Combating Terrorism Centre at the US Military Academy at West Point.
Mr Brennan also said that subsequent US operations to wipe out senior Al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan had left the group reeling.
"Under intense pressure in the tribal regions of Pakistan, they have fewer places to train and groom the next generation of operatives, they're struggling to attract new recruits. Morale is low," he said.
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Added: May-1-2012 Occurred On: May-1-2012
By: Jake_Sully
In: World News, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Other Middle East
Tags: Drone, Al queda, Pakistan, terrorism, Afghanistan
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Tags: Drone, Al queda, Pakistan, terrorism, Afghanistan
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this is all bullshit. the fuckin pc crowd is ridiculous. u think the taliban wouldnt use them if they had them. they dont give a fuck about civilians not even their own. i would bet that most if not all the "civilians" were actually helping, supporting and engaged in activities for the insurgents. fuck u u stupid pc crowd of morons.
Posted May-1-2012 Byrmacl (401.88) 
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Well said!
Posted May-1-2012 Byshark44 (525.46) 
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What the hell is wrong with drone strikes? Kill the enemy without putting anyone in harms way. Thats bad? The fuck is going on?
Posted May-1-2012 ByNemesis2747 (173.24) 
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''Kill the enemy without putting anyone in harms way.'' The exact problem are the civilian casualties. With your argument you could justify any terrorist action. It's like attacking other countries and then saying ''war is hell''.
Don't you understand that those stupid fucks there have never even heard of 9/11. We see guys getting blown up for setting IEDs and they are exactly peasants that one day saw Humvees cruising around and battles destroying their crops and animals.
Why n More..
Posted May-1-2012 Bymiguel111 (28.44) 
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Dead terrorists are funny
Posted May-1-2012 BycALlme6 (494.20) cALlme6 Send Message
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We shouldn't have to offer defense for the strikes!
Drones are an efficient way to kill the enemy without putting our soldiers in harms way.
And you seriously think the Taliban wouldn't use them if they had them? They don't care about who they kill. At least we have SOME discretion!
Posted May-1-2012 Bycswartz (1163.80) 
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These things kill vermin who should be killed by any means, we should have more of them.
Posted May-1-2012 ByBawbag (794.80) 
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This Political Correctness in Warfare drives me NUTZ!
Drone strikes are Not, or Should the Be, Ethical. For the love of God.
Drone strikes kill people. It's the big American Middle finger flicking Sand Monkeys of the face of the Earth.
Was that insensative?
Posted May-1-2012 ByFlashovr (1940.50)

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Any weapon is just an extension of the human hand.
We started by beating our opponents to death with our bare hands, then came stones and clubs and then spears. Soon the sword and bow and then the musket and cannon which bought us to the 20th century weaponry.
Now all we do is push a button and I'm sure the next will be to think our enemy dead.......I like that thought
Posted May-1-2012 ByJake_Sully (522.64) 
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I'll take a drone strike any day, if it keeps our troops safe. War is war and people will die, but as long as our troops are the ones doing the killing, I am 100% in support of drone strikes. If it would appease the hippies it could be made a two strike process. First drone strike drops flowers and peace symbols. Second strike sends them all to hell.
Posted May-1-2012 Bytreday (484.40) 
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Obama is working hard on that second Nobel “peace” prize.
Posted May-1-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2085.74) 
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Well, he worked real hard for the first one.
Posted May-1-2012 Bymlivsey (1122.76) 
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send him another peace prize!
Posted May-1-2012 ByAmusing (5323.48) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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Destroying AQ with these drones is a lot better than invading whole countries with ground troops. It is how we will fight this war in the future. Good post, Shooterkitty.
Posted May-1-2012 Bymarinemom (5474.28) 
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the germans called these the V1 , V2
They used it out of "necessity"
Posted May-1-2012 ByOwenHiggins (1659.64) OwenHiggins View Channel Send Message
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@hedgehog "What is wrong with the drone strikes ?"
Generally, collateral damage. The first problem is identification. If somebody is shooting at you then they are the enemy. Many of the LiveLeak videos show just that and they are good kills. However, the US has had to apologize for killing a bunch of kids out gathering firewood. Scurrying like kids do, hiding, carrying a long object, erratic behavior and such looks suspicious from a mile away.
Secondly is bystanders. I know that the More..
Posted May-1-2012 ByYukon6400 (1012.12) Yukon6400 View Channel Send Message
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Actually, it is because I do care about US soldiers that I don't want them participating in stupid undefined wars, endangering their lives, and killing undefined enemies.
You care less about collateral damage than doing the right thing. We hung people like you after the Nuremburg trials after WWII.
And the difference between someone like you who doesn't care if innocents die to achieve your point and a "terrorist" is...?
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im not a huge fan of obama but i am glad that he's doing this
Posted May-1-2012 Bybuckster3257 (48.10) 
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