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Chuck Winder, Idaho Lawmaker, Suggests Women Use Rape As Excuse For Abortions

The sponsor of an Idaho mandatory ultrasound bill, state Sen. Chuck Winder,
made some highly controversial comments Monday during his closing arguments,
suggesting women might falsely use rape as an excuse to obtain an abortion.
Just before the Idaho's Senate passed the bill, which requires woman to have
an ultrasound prior to obtaining an abortion, opponents of the bill pointed out
that it makes no exception for rape victims, incest victims or women in medical
emergencies.
Winder, a Republican from Boise, responded to those concerns by raising the question of
whether women understand when they have been raped.
“Rape and incest was used as a reason to oppose this," Winder said on the
Senate floor. "I would hope that when a woman goes in to a physician with a rape
issue, that physician will indeed ask her about perhaps her marriage, was this
pregnancy caused by normal relations in a marriage or was it truly caused by a
rape. I assume that's part of the counseling that goes on.”
Women reported 84,767 "forcible rapes" in the United States in 2010,
according to the FBI's most recent Uniform Crime Report; the figure does not include statutory
rape, incest or any other kind of rape that falls outside the FBI's narrow definition of the crime.
If Winder's mandatory ultrasound bill becomes law, a victim of rape or incest
or a woman with a medical emergency who is seeking an abortion must obtain an
ultrasound first and the state will provide a list of providers. Nearly every
provider of free ultrasounds in Idaho is a "crisis pregnancy center," which aims to dissuade women from
having an abortion. The woman would also have to obtain from a doctor a second
ultrasound, which would involve an invasive transvaginal procedure if she is in her first trimester of
pregnancy. Even if she averts her eyes from the ultrasound image and refuses
to listen to the fetal heartbeat, she would have to hear the doctor describe the
fetus in detail.
Proponents of the bill describe it as one more way to protect "unborn
children," with the assumption that the ultrasound procedure and anti-abortion
counseling might sway women against having an abortion. Opponents argue that it
forces doctors to perform medically unnecessary procedures and contributes to
the emotional anguish of women who have already made a very difficult decision.

One woman wrote last week about her painful experience with Texas' new
mandatory ultrasound law in the Texas Observer, in which she had to listen to
a doctor describe the gravely ill fetus that she had sought to abort to protect
her own health.
The state Senate voted 23 to 12 to pass the controversial ultrasound bill on
Monday, with all seven Democrats and five Republicans against it. The
Republican-controlled House is also expected to pass the measure.
“Fellow senators, as a woman and as a person of faith, this bill makes me
want to cry," said state Sen. Diane Bilyeu, a Democrat. "I want an end to
abortion as well as all of you do, and I am totally opposed to abortion except
in the case of rape, incest or the life of the mother. But I find this bill to
be intrusive into my faith, and it is punitive as a woman.”


Added: Mar-20-2012 Occurred On: Mar-20-2012
By: dcmfox
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  • America's Republicans really do seem to be a bunch of odious, misogynistic lowlifes.

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  • Yeah, the ReThuggees don't have a war on women.. they fucking hate EVERYONE who isn't them.....

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  • It is tough to see a political party fall so fast so hard. It's truly like they have become so detached from the lives of ordinary people that they think what they see on reality show is really the way it is.

    I almost feel bad for them but if the old dog cant stand anymore maybe its time for them to end their sufferring and let another party step up and fill the void they are leaving.

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  • What da hell is wrong with these GOP guys??
    Are they really that desperate to give Obama another four years??

    For the last few months their focus has shifted from 'Jobs' and 'the economy' to Women's issues.
    The success they've experienced in 2010 on the back of the Tea Party will evaporate this time around because of the constant bashing and intrusion they're spearheading against half of the voting public (women).

    After checking my reliable Chrystal Ball, I see Obama re-elected and House going More..

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  • Republicans, stop destroying your own party, stop it.

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  • I'm from Idaho, and yes, there are lot of other/different/bigger fish to fry than this proposed legislation.

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  • Last three sentences would be hard to argue with, if you chose to.
    Touchy subject for a man to assert his oppinion without looking like a Woman disrespect-er, that sucks because we men have no way of reproducing without you!! If a guy knocks up a girl and the girl decides she is not in a position in life to be a Mother but the guy feels otherwise....he may have lost his only chance, where as she will have all the opportunity in the world to try again any time.

    how's that for a ramble?....sucs, More..

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  • Freeze it....right there is where this man lost all credibility.

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  • "ultrasounds" ??? DAMN, women might even learn the truth about whats been growing there for almost a full term, can't have that sh*t.

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  • ~Ya, you could just say you were at an OWS event, or with the DNC /clinton team ....-or any union protest.

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  • She might even name "YOU" as the Daddy.

    Women lie all the time as long as it benefits them.

    So, was he lying? Nope.

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