JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Wrong, Boehner isn't a Senator, he is a Congressman in the House of Representatives.
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
I will take your criticism more sincerly when I begin to notice you holding both parties to the same account.
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
I will take your criticism more sincerly when I begin to notice you holding both parties to the same account.
Since when do we hold cable newscasters on any channel to the same standards as elected representatives in congress?? That can't be a good sign...
I think you're missing the forest for the trees, buddy.
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
I will take your criticism more sincerly when I begin to notice you holding both parties to the same account.
Since when do we hold cable newscasters on any channel to the same standards as elected representatives in congress?? That can't be a good sign...
I think you're missing the forest for the trees, buddy.
I'm not holding Rachel Maddow to any acocunt - only to point out she was wrong, as was John Boehner.
Rachel Maddow can spew ignorant rants all night long on her cable news program for all I care, it is still somewhat a free country.
John Boehner's fate will be decided during next years election.
Quoted comment by mdscorpio71: JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Misquote...maybe, although he said "in the preamble" without clarifying which one, but probably was referring to the constitution in his hand.
Either way, confusing a preamble is different than outright saying there isn't one.
Quoted comment by loofmot: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
This is of course correct.
The preamble of the constitution does not confer or deny powers to the federal government. Because of this it has not been, and will not be used to ajudicate constitutional law.
The preamble to the Declaration of Independence, however, has been and will continue to be used to ajudicate constitutional law.
It is disappointing that the minority leader in the House does not know the difference, and the importance regarding constitutional law.
The section of the preamble to the DoI that he should have quoted is thus:
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
It is this portion that all Americans should contemplate now and into 2010.
Quibbling. Maddow's error was minor, as were all the errors she was ridiculing. But Maddow does need to get off her high horse. It appeals to a small number of Ooh-I'm-so-smart liberals, but leaves the rest of the country thinking "What a jerk!"
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JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "mdscorpio71" (R)
The Constitution DOES have a preamble, but "We hold these truths..." isn't in it.
Anyway, cap 'n' trade is a scam, and I fully support Bachmann in opposing it.
Gotta go, Maddow is putting me to sleep again.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "FlibbleDeeFlobble" (R)
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "loofmot" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "PH-DEE" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Wrong, Boehner isn't a Senator, he is a Congressman in the House of Representatives.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "cat-scratch-fever" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "mdscorpio71" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "PH-DEE" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
I will take your criticism more sincerly when I begin to notice you holding both parties to the same account.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "mdscorpio71" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
I will take your criticism more sincerly when I begin to notice you holding both parties to the same account.
Since when do we hold cable newscasters on any channel to the same standards as elected representatives in congress?? That can't be a good sign...
I think you're missing the forest for the trees, buddy.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "Entinlude" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Yeah, but one of them is a Senator, the other a TV personality.
Well, he is a congressman not a Senator, and she is on TV but not much of a personality
Oops, right. He is the minority leader. It's a good thing our elected leaders are so knowledgeable about the documents they have sworn to uphold.
I will take your criticism more sincerly when I begin to notice you holding both parties to the same account.
Since when do we hold cable newscasters on any channel to the same standards as elected representatives in congress?? That can't be a good sign...
I think you're missing the forest for the trees, buddy.
I'm not holding Rachel Maddow to any acocunt - only to point out she was wrong, as was John Boehner.
Rachel Maddow can spew ignorant rants all night long on her cable news program for all I care, it is still somewhat a free country.
John Boehner's fate will be decided during next years election.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "mdscorpio71" (R)
This lesbian libtard has never read either of these documents.
She and her master hussein are just puppets for Soros.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "Hawk_Eye" (R)
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh
The Constituion of course does have a Preamble as does the Declaration - The Preamble to the Constituion however does not include the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident" those words are found in the Preamble of the Declaration.
As is the case so often in politics, both partisans were wrong.
Misquote...maybe, although he said "in the preamble" without clarifying which one, but probably was referring to the constitution in his hand.
Either way, confusing a preamble is different than outright saying there isn't one.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "safetychuck2" (R)
This is of course correct.
The preamble of the constitution does not confer or deny powers to the federal government. Because of this it has not been, and will not be used to ajudicate constitutional law.
The preamble to the Declaration of Independence, however, has been and will continue to be used to ajudicate constitutional law.
It is disappointing that the minority leader in the House does not know the difference, and the importance regarding constitutional law.
The section of the preamble to the DoI that he should have quoted is thus:
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
It is this portion that all Americans should contemplate now and into 2010.
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "Fenrisulfr" (R)
Quibbling. Maddow's error was minor, as were all the errors she was ridiculing. But Maddow does need to get off her high horse. It appeals to a small number of Ooh-I'm-so-smart liberals, but leaves the rest of the country thinking "What a jerk!"
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "john731863" (R)
maybe if she wouldn't get her research from the smear sheet media matters she would get it right next time...
Posted Nov-6-2009 by "sauerkraut" (R)