Officials at the University of Western Ontario in London are defending the violent arrest of a student that was captured on video and posted on YouTube.
The video, shot on Wednesday at the university's social sciences building, shows what appears to be five campus and police officers surrounding the man and pinning him to the ground.
The officers knee and punch the student several times before they are able to restrain him.
They appear to be trying to put handcuffs on the man while repeatedly shouting, "Stop resisting!"
Elgin Austen, the head of campus police, told a news conference Thursday that by the time he arrived during the arrest, he didn't see "anything out of order" with the level of force being applied.
"It was being conducted consistent with the Ontario Police College and the training that officers have there."
The student council said it has heard concerns about the incident from "thousands of students," and is working with the university to find out more about what happened.
Austen said people seeing just the video alone "may not understand what the officers were actually doing.
"What the officers were doing was trying to apprehend a strong individual ... and not injure that person and keep other people around safe."
'Disoriented and threatening'
Campus police first knew something was awry at the social sciences building when they received a call at 5 p.m. from a student who reported being followed by a man.
Campus police later received calls that a "disoriented and threatening individual" was trying to enter offices on two different floors in the building, the university said in a statement.
He eventually barricaded himself inside a seventh floor office, said the university.
When two London police officers came to investigate, the man came out of the room and "charged" the officers, the university said.
A third officer arrived and tried to apprehend the man, but he broke free and headed for the main floor. When he got there, a campus officer stopped him as he tried to flee. More London police officers arrived, and they managed to tackle him to the ground.
After the man was apprehended, he was sent to hospital and released into police custody at 3 a.m. on Thursday.
London native Irnes Zeljkovic, 22, has been charged with mischief under $5,000, assaulting a peace officer, resisting arrest and escaping lawful custody.
The fourth-year social sciences student is described as being about 6 feet and 2 inches tall and weighing more than 200 pounds.
No-win situation. Assuming the guy (six feet tall and two hundred pounds) was wildly disruptive and violently resisted as the police say, there is no pretty way to stop him.
The interviewer walking around getting visceral reactions was no help.
Judging the police before all the facts are known, what else is new? I'm not saying that the Police are above reproach, far from it, but it appeared to me that this was a struggling resisting arrestee.
At least they didn't taser him. |Generally a person has to be stumbling around, on the verge of losing consciousness from diabetic coma, to be tasered.
Whatever the police say, they have already garnered so much distrust in this city that a lot of people will assume they are in the wrong, because they have been guilty of so much violence in the past. Not just violence, but racism and rape. This is just another in a long history of violence on this police force. Look up Jeffery Gateman (raped a 17 yr old girl thinking she was a prostitute and he'd get away with it)or Project Gaurdian, or Greg Kilman (killed by police in the back of a car, unarmed.) I don't care if they are guilty in this case or not, at this point ANYTHING that causes the spotlight to shine on these thugs is a good thing.
Security/police reacted PERFECTLY considering the situation... an out of control mental case who failed to comply to the officer's orders. If I saw a loon running thru the hallways screaming/ranting when I was in University, I'd have hit him with a fking chair.
The reporter showing just the vid clip to hear student sound bites was a waste of time and reflects piss poor journalism.
Quoted comment by john731863: No-win situation. Assuming the guy (six feet tall and two hundred pounds) was wildly disruptive and violently resisted as the police say, there is no pretty way to stop him.
The interviewer walking around getting visceral reactions was no help.
Yup. Typical press: Only air the dramatic reactions.
Quoted comment by smyle: Security/police reacted PERFECTLY considering the situation... an out of control mental case who failed to comply to the officer's orders. If I saw a loon running thru the hallways screaming/ranting when I was in University, I'd have hit him with a fking chair.
The reporter showing just the vid clip to hear student sound bites was a waste of time and reflects piss poor journalism.
That's stupid. He's getting arrested for running? There is no reason to even stop a person from running. Run all you want! Scream if you wish! Freedom of speech man. Freedom to move at the pace one sees fit for one's own body. They should have IGNORED him. The whole incident is ridiculous. Disturbed or not he wasn't hurting anyone. And then they expect a disturbed person to follow their orders, when he's done nothing wrong. And they when these violent men attack him they expect him to have the presence of mind to not resist what might have been wild animals trying to kill him in his mind. If they had just ignored him, there would have been no incident. They created it from start to finish, and they beat a man for no reason. They should have use dtheir brains instead of their insrtuments of violence. So he's running and screaming, who the **** cares? Well, YOU do, you think running and screaming is reason enough to run him over with your car. You're even worse than the police.
Quoted comment by smyle: Security/police reacted PERFECTLY considering the situation... an out of control mental case who failed to comply to the officer's orders. If I saw a loon running thru the hallways screaming/ranting when I was in University, I'd have hit him with a fking chair.
The reporter showing just the vid clip to hear student sound bites was a waste of time and reflects piss poor journalism.
That's stupid. He's getting arrested for running? There is no reason to even stop a person from running. Run all you want! Scream if you wish! Freedom of speech man. Freedom to move at the pace one sees fit for one's own body. They should have IGNORED him. The whole incident is ridiculous. Disturbed or not he wasn't hurting anyone. And then they expect a disturbed person to follow their orders, when he's done nothing wrong. And they when these violent men attack him they expect him to have the presence of mind to not resist what might have been wild animals trying to kill him in his mind. If they had just ignored him, there would have been no incident. They created it from start to finish, and they beat a man for no reason. They should have use dtheir brains instead of their insrtuments of violence. So he's running and screaming, who the **** cares? Well, YOU do, you think running and screaming is reason enough to run him over with your car. You're even worse than the police.
Instruments of violence??? Are you blind? Did you listen to the audio?
You've obviously never worked in security.
What land of rainbows and ice cream do you live in?
If you had a daughter in that school with a lunatic 6 ft male running amok, I'm sure you would have no worries, right?
And should she be assaulted, you'd be the first screaming for a law suit crying why wasn't he stopped.
Google "school shootings" and "criminal assaults on campus" and get back to me.
Quoted comment by steveaustin1971: Whatever the police say, they have already garnered so much distrust in this city that a lot of people will assume they are in the wrong, because they have been guilty of so much violence in the past. Not just violence, but racism and rape. This is just another in a long history of violence on this police force. Look up Jeffery Gateman (raped a 17 yr old girl thinking she was a prostitute and he'd get away with it)or Project Gaurdian, or Greg Kilman (killed by police in the back of a car, unarmed.) I don't care if they are guilty in this case or not, at this point ANYTHING that causes the spotlight to shine on these thugs is a good thing.
You do know that making hasty generalizations is a logical fallacy, right?
Quoted comment by steveaustin1971: Whatever the police say, they have already garnered so much distrust in this city that a lot of people will assume they are in the wrong, because they have been guilty of so much violence in the past. Not just violence, but racism and rape. This is just another in a long history of violence on this police force. Look up Jeffery Gateman (raped a 17 yr old girl thinking she was a prostitute and he'd get away with it)or Project Gaurdian, or Greg Kilman (killed by police in the back of a car, unarmed.) I don't care if they are guilty in this case or not, at this point ANYTHING that causes the spotlight to shine on these thugs is a good thing.
You do know that making hasty generalizations is a logical fallacy, right?
When it comes to trust, all you have to go on is experience. In my experience, the London Police are not to be trusted. If this causes an investigation and stirs up public awareness of the problems with the London force, then its a good thing.
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No-win situation. Assuming the guy (six feet tall and two hundred pounds) was wildly disruptive and violently resisted as the police say, there is no pretty way to stop him.
The interviewer walking around getting visceral reactions was no help.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "john731863" (R)
Judging the police before all the facts are known, what else is new? I'm not saying that the Police are above reproach, far from it, but it appeared to me that this was a struggling resisting arrestee.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "Tenaceus" (R)
At least they didn't taser him. |Generally a person has to be stumbling around, on the verge of losing consciousness from diabetic coma, to be tasered.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "late_cretaceous" (R)
Knee him in the balls a few times. Might take a bit of the fight out of him.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "lonewolf6972" (R)
If you think this is excessive try taking out a guy even a guy half the size who is high on smack by yourself and see how far you get.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "killthe13familys" (R)
Don't worry, sharia will be coming to you dumb****s.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "DaRyz" (B)
Whatever the police say, they have already garnered so much distrust in this city that a lot of people will assume they are in the wrong, because they have been guilty of so much violence in the past. Not just violence, but racism and rape. This is just another in a long history of violence on this police force. Look up Jeffery Gateman (raped a 17 yr old girl thinking she was a prostitute and he'd get away with it)or Project Gaurdian, or Greg Kilman (killed by police in the back of a car, unarmed.) I don't care if they are guilty in this case or not, at this point ANYTHING that causes the spotlight to shine on these thugs is a good thing.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "steveaustin1971" (R)
Future psychologist in training.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "SouthParkIndie" (R)
Security/police reacted PERFECTLY considering the situation... an out of control mental case who failed to comply to the officer's orders. If I saw a loon running thru the hallways screaming/ranting when I was in University, I'd have hit him with a fking chair.
The reporter showing just the vid clip to hear student sound bites was a waste of time and reflects piss poor journalism.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "smyle" (R)
A little hard to resist with all those cops on top of him, isn't it?
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "gregory_peckory" (R)
The interviewer walking around getting visceral reactions was no help.
Yup. Typical press: Only air the dramatic reactions.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "loofmot" (R)
The reporter showing just the vid clip to hear student sound bites was a waste of time and reflects piss poor journalism.
That's stupid. He's getting arrested for running? There is no reason to even stop a person from running. Run all you want! Scream if you wish! Freedom of speech man. Freedom to move at the pace one sees fit for one's own body. They should have IGNORED him. The whole incident is ridiculous. Disturbed or not he wasn't hurting anyone. And then they expect a disturbed person to follow their orders, when he's done nothing wrong. And they when these violent men attack him they expect him to have the presence of mind to not resist what might have been wild animals trying to kill him in his mind. If they had just ignored him, there would have been no incident. They created it from start to finish, and they beat a man for no reason. They should have use dtheir brains instead of their insrtuments of violence. So he's running and screaming, who the **** cares? Well, YOU do, you think running and screaming is reason enough to run him over with your car. You're even worse than the police.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "wellybub" (R)
The reporter showing just the vid clip to hear student sound bites was a waste of time and reflects piss poor journalism.
That's stupid. He's getting arrested for running? There is no reason to even stop a person from running. Run all you want! Scream if you wish! Freedom of speech man. Freedom to move at the pace one sees fit for one's own body. They should have IGNORED him. The whole incident is ridiculous. Disturbed or not he wasn't hurting anyone. And then they expect a disturbed person to follow their orders, when he's done nothing wrong. And they when these violent men attack him they expect him to have the presence of mind to not resist what might have been wild animals trying to kill him in his mind. If they had just ignored him, there would have been no incident. They created it from start to finish, and they beat a man for no reason. They should have use dtheir brains instead of their insrtuments of violence. So he's running and screaming, who the **** cares? Well, YOU do, you think running and screaming is reason enough to run him over with your car. You're even worse than the police.
Instruments of violence??? Are you blind? Did you listen to the audio?
You've obviously never worked in security.
What land of rainbows and ice cream do you live in?
If you had a daughter in that school with a lunatic 6 ft male running amok, I'm sure you would have no worries, right?
And should she be assaulted, you'd be the first screaming for a law suit crying why wasn't he stopped.
Google "school shootings" and "criminal assaults on campus" and get back to me.
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "smyle" (R)
You do know that making hasty generalizations is a logical fallacy, right?
Posted Oct-16-2009 by "Chameleo87" (R)
You do know that making hasty generalizations is a logical fallacy, right?
When it comes to trust, all you have to go on is experience. In my experience, the London Police are not to be trusted. If this causes an investigation and stirs up public awareness of the problems with the London force, then its a good thing.
Posted Oct-18-2009 by "steveaustin1971" (R)