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Pakistan 'trashed' and insulted, Top Pakistani Gereral won't meet US official

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Pakistan Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani's
office turned down a request for a meeting by visiting US deputy
assistant secretary of defense Peter Lavoy, reflecting the strains that
have hit ties between the two countries since last year.
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official but the general headquarters declined it, unnamed
Pakistani officials were quoted as saying by The News daily on Monday.
The officials said they were not aware if Lavoy was given any reasons for the decision.


US officials in Washington too confirmed the development, the daily reported.

One
unnamed Pakistani official indicated the request was turned down
because of allegations by US officials that Pakistan was not doing
enough to rein in militants operating along the border with Afghanistan.
"There are several reasons for turning down (a meeting with) Lavoy.
It is to tell the Americans that you cannot be bad-mouthing us day in
and day out and then expect a meeting with Pakistan's most powerful
personality," the official said.
"You cannot trash our sovereignty, threaten us, announce intensified
drone attacks, kill our soldiers, refuse to apologise when you do the
same in Kabul, hold back our money (from the Coalition Support Fund),
threaten to cut off all aid and then pretend that it is business as
usual," the official added.
Pakistan has been angered by remarks made by US defense secretary Leon Panetta during a recent visit to India and Afghanistan.


Panetta said the US had no plans to stop drone strikes despite protests from Pakistan.


Panetta further said the US was running out of patience with Pakistan
for failing to act against militant safe havens in the tribal belt
bordering Afghanistan.
Officials involved in working out a "package deal" with the US told
The News that there were clear instructions from the Pakistan government
that a US apology for a deadly NATO air strike that killed 24 Pakistani
soldiers in November last year was more important than the fees to be
paid for NATO containers going to Afghanistan.
"We would be willing to forgo charges in return for assurances on our
sovereignty and offer of an apology. It means more than the money, we
are more concerned about our dignity and honour.
"If we get assurances that our sovereignty will not be violated and
our dignity will be respected, we will not bother about the money part.
Price of containers is not an important issue," an official was quoted
as saying.
The official said Lavoy had been told that, without an apology, it
would not be possible to move forward on reopening the NATO supply lines
to Afghanistan.
"One cannot predict the outcome of our discussions. The process
remains unpredictable. The apology remains the key to preserve our
dignity. In the absence of the same, it has been difficult to move
forward," the official said.
Pakistan closed the supply lines after the NATO air strike in November.


Since then, Islamabad and Washington have been engaged in negotiations to settle their differences.


Pakistani leaders, including foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar, have
said that an apology for the NATO air strike is a pre-requisite for
reopening the supply lines.
Efforts are now underway to ensure that an "acceptable apology is
delivered one way or the other to Pakistan", The News reported.
"There appears to be a slim chance that an acceptable apology will
surface. Neither side is ready to accept the language the interlocutors
are working on, and time is running out.
"General headquarters has to understand that a ready apology was
pushed aside and now too many issues have overtaken the apology," an
unnamed diplomat was quoted as saying.
The powerful security establishment has sent a message to Lavoy that a "package deal" would not be possible without an apology.


Added: Jun-11-2012 Occurred On: Jun-11-2012
By: Ray Kalm
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  • Hey Pakistan, take your indignation and shove it up your ass. Start acting like an ally and we will stop treating you like the enemy.

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  • Good,

    Let em cry about it.

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  • Pakistan is a country that specialises in being offended - they live to be offended, they are not happy unless they can say they are being so hard done by - it's a national trait.

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  • Send a fucking Drone to meet with the Crapistan general instead.
    They'll get the message.

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  • wow they are angry the aid is being cut, they talk as if they are entitled to it like a fucking deadbeat welfare case who thinks they are entitled to social aid lol

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  • That's a country that will be completely isolated from the world when the afghan war is over, the world will always remember it was pakistan that harbored these bastards on their side of the border and it will become an international pariah, guaranteed that trade and relations with India will fly through the roof down the road.

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    • @The Grim The shitty thing is...its the fucking north of pakistan is the problem. These autonomous regions ARE the ones harboring the terrorists. The more and more we kill the more south they hide in pakistan. I've met quite a few people from pakistan. They can't stand these asshole talibs shitting on their country. Pakistan actually is pretty liberal and progressive. Its the army, government, and intelligence (which is all in one encompassed) that is shitty and corrupt. The people are great, th More..

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    • @mylostsoul I agree I dont hate Pakistanis when I meet them, they seem like a decent people, but their gov't is a disaster zone, besides the unwillingness to go after the Haqqani network and their facilitating of terrorist groups the ISI allows to operate, they're a proliferator of nuclear and missile technology to Iran and North Korea and at one time Libya. They want a huge hand in the future of Afghanistan and they use the militants as a proxy to get it done. But make no mistake, there are pro More..

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    • @mylostsoul
      "Its the army, government, and intelligence (which is all in one encompassed) that is shitty and corrupt. The people are great, the ones in control aren't."

      Isn't it always the case.

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    • @thegrimreaper not always the case, but def in this case, army, intelligence obviously work together, the army def controls the goverment (look at the last coups). Most people i've met are great. All those people you see protesting burning flags screaming death to America...they don't tell you that media is all from the northern reigions

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    • @The Grim i agree it is a disaster zone, i agree all that extremism came from afghaniland, jihadists, and talibs. The fact that they turn a blind eye to this shows their lack of wanting to fight india, and also fight those guys up north.

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  • pak sucks...bomb the shit out of them (we might have to bomb them for quite a while, as they are so full of shit)

    hi noalias....long time no drool......haha

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  • Fuck Pakistan-the USA should stop giving these buttfucks any money or aid-see how they like that shit

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  • Fuck Pakistan! Backward Muslim country anyways!

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  • since when do the US appologize? they´re by far to arrogant for that

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    • @Blix why should we, they're double dealing both sides, pakistan is corrupt as hell. Not to mention we help them out with more than just monetary support and they fuck us over.

      So yes, i'm happy they won't back down or apologize.

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    • @Blix

      Arrogant??? Coming from a country that felt entitled to the world. You should study your own history before opening your mouth

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    • @hotmess

      BlahBlah Blah, what do i care of 60+ year old shit? we live today, not in the past

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    • @Blix Well actually the world lives with the consequences of your nations actions, because of WWII England lost whatever colonies it had left, and America and the Soviet Union became superpowers of the world, and America allowed you to rebuild your country and economy in a way that we saw fit and benefitted your nation to this day, whereas Joseph Stalin wanted Germany to never again exist as a nation and America stood in the way of that. Not to mention the population of Europe is probably about More..

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    • an excellent comment TG, a lot of Europeans tend to 'forget' how they got where they are today - and who helped them get there...

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