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Swansea, Wales, UK - "Welsh Defence League show true colours" - Nazi sympathizers vs. anti-fascists at protest (Oct.17, 2009)

"THEY denied being fascists ahead of their first Welsh march – but at yesterday's Welsh Defence League protest against Islamic extremism onlookers were confronted with scenes of jeering men giving Nazi salutes.

It was the first time the newly-formed group have been out on the streets in Wales. At a similar event in Birmingham a few weeks ago trouble flared when the English Defence League, which describes itself as "peacefully protesting against militant Islam", and anti-fascism groups fought on the street.

At the gathering in Swansea, a 25-year-old man was arrested for a racially-aggravated public order offence.

The controversial march had sparked a counter-demonstration, with about 200 protesters occupying the city centre.

A heavy police cordon on either side of Castle Street in Swansea city centre kept the two groups apart.

Speaking before its demonstration, the Welsh Defence League (WDL) said the event would be peaceful, and consistently denied allegations of fascist tendencies.

But the ugly scenes, in which grown men among the group of around 60 were seen making Nazi salutes in front of small children, seemed to prove otherwise.

Keith Ross, one of the organisers of the counter demonstration by groups including Swansea City of Sanctuary and Searchlight Cymru, said: "My first reaction to the WDL is who are they defending us against?

"I don't need to be defended against Muslims and I'm sad that the WDL has made a public call for no more mosques, which is a breach of human rights. Yet they have been given the right of freedom of speech."

Plaid Cymru Assembly Member Leanne Woods was among those who had turned out to oppose the Welsh Defence League.

She said: "This is the first time they have come to Wales and a lot of people from different organisations have come out to say far-right extremism isn’t acceptable on the streets of Swansea.

"We are happy to live together with the Muslim community and we are not prepared to accept divisive and hate-based politics on our streets."

Dr. Mohammed Rahman, who attends Swansea Mosque, said Muslims in Swansea were very much an accepted part of the community.

He said: "In any society in the world there will be some elements who will be against Islam or Christianity or some other religion, so this is a normal thing to happen.

"But it is a very, very minor percentage of people. I feel very secure in the community here because most of the people support us."

Speaking after the demonstrations, chief superintendent Mark Mathias, of South Wales Police, said he had hoped the two sides would be separated but was pleased with a relatively peaceful outcome.

"When you bring two groups together there's going to be passion, and that’s what we have had today," he said. "I am pleased with the success of the police operation, which allowed the protests to pass off peacefully, whilst taking into account the rights of the people of Swansea to go about their normal business.""
(Wales Online, Oct.18, 2009)
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/10/18/welsh-defence-league-show-true-colours-91466-24954821/


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Added: Nov-2-2009 Occurred On: Oct-17-2009
By: lasrever
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  • i see no problems here besides the fact that the europeans countries are being over run with foreigners and making euros minorities in their own countries.

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  • Good job guys, keep your boots on!!

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  • This is cause and effect...the left wing of the UK has fucked that country over to the point it is bordering on collapse and all at the expense of the native brits...meanwhile muslim immigrants are a protected class of animal allowed to rape, rob and abuse the english tax payer.

    Sooner or later something has to give, the pendulum has to swing back.

    I look forward to it.

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    • Then you woke up.

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  • id rather have those guys in charge than the muslims.

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  • I'd like to see the video of that march because the photo really looked like one guy hamming it up for the cameras.

    Whenever anyone shows actual videos of "Anti-fascists versus BNP" they usually seem to show a mob of enraged Muslims and few, if any BNP members.

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  • wrong arm. duh.

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  • One jackass has to ruin it for the rest.
    I know EDL member where i'm from, and non are Nazi sympathizers

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  • How do you know the people who were doing the Nazi salutes were Welshmen ?

    There could be infiltrators. It is not the first time people joined a political group with the intent to wreck it.

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  • Hey lasrever nice upload, but I still fail to see the importance of a roman salutation being made in a protest event.

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  • muslim lasrever mountain of lies..
    you look pale..

    worshipping the moongod falseillah named allah has emptied you of the truth..


    come into the light of the sun of truth..

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  • Anyway paramilitary outfits be damned, they start off as all fun and games and before you know it theyre wearing burberry berets and mortaring the 'enemy' in thier 'strongholds'.

    Couldnt give a fuck for the so called 'defence leagues' hell the Korean bottled confidence salesmen down the road TaeKwonDo are doing more (well probably less but at least its something) to better the 'defencive' posture of English people round here.

    Still I think its all caveman psuedo spiritual crap at the end o More..

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  • minority of people doing nazi salutes dont imagine all of the protesters were they arnt all "nazis" the EDL arnt

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  • According to the BNP site they have actually 'disowned' theses pricks.

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  • The last thing the WDL want is dirty foreigners coming to Wales and shagg1ng Welsh sheep...

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    • lol - Hey Reversal, i thought you lived in California? Is your flag is wrong! Anyways "Keith Ross, one of the organisers of the counter demonstration by groups including Swansea City of Sanctuary and Searchlight Cymru, said: "My first reaction to the WDL is who are they defending us against?" In all fairness as an obtuse American, i don't know the situation in England, Wales, and UK. But its obvious England needs more immigrants like a dog needs more fleas! At least in the U More..

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  • Long live the WDL! Liberation of Europe tomorrow!

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  • Very biased story....

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  • Lasreve

    Where were you posts when the Muslims we in London Saying "DEATH TO ANYONE WHO INSULTS ISLAM"

    Hypocrite.

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  • Is racism in human nature?

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  • We're seeing nazism pop up many places in Europe these days, and that's your reaction?
    "Well done lads"?
    "I see no problem"?

    There are groups putting up stickers with swaztikas in my neighborhood, and I'm frankly more scared by the nazism growing in Europe than by any of the muslims I've ever met or worked with.

    Luckily, the people who are attracted by the neonazi groups aren't the brightest. They're the type who dropped out of school early and never had any history lessons More..

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