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Immigration Debate Challenge - Prove the facts wrong
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/crime/toc.html#fear
http://dallasfedbackup.org/research/papers/2003/wp0303.pdf
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Added: Jan 31 2008 In: yoursay
By: warren25 
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Every single crime committed by an illegal proves means that crime would not occur if the illegal was not here.. Its trying to curb the violence that still takes place..
In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide which total 1,200 to 1,500 target illegal aliens. Up to two thirds of all fugitive felony warrants 17,000 are for illegal aliens.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
In the City of San Diego 26 percent of all burglary arrests and 12 percent of all felony arrests involved illegal aliens, who are estimated to comprise less than 4 percent of the total city population.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/crime/underestimated.html
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/keytabs.htm
Think it depends on the area.. Either way one can justify it by simply saying if the illegal was not here the crime would not of occured. Which would mean less crime..
Think the mayor of tijuana accused the USA of increasing the petty crime rate 300 percent by dumping illegals off there at the border
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Dat1111" (R)
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/articles/art2004jan04.html
http://www.urban.org/publications/410366.html
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9c
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05646r.pdf
http://mediamatters.org/items/200505060006
Here is a little light reading Warren. All I did was a www.google.com search. Every result was about how many Illegals are in prison.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "hugo121175" (R)
I'll issue you the same challenge and with more recent statistics. PROVE THIS ONE STUDY WRONG. That is the same challenge you are issuing, is it not?
FBI Statistical Report (2006)
%u201C12 Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens. (that%u2019s more than 21,900 murders by illegal aliens since September 11, 2001)
13 people per day are killed by illegal immigrants who drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol. An additional 4,745 premature deaths per year.
62% of all %u201Cundocumented immigrants%u201D in the United States are working for cash and not paying taxes, predominantly illegal aliens, working without a green card.
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
More than 380,000 %u201Canchor babies%u201D born in the United States in 2005 were to parents who are illegal aliens; making those 380,000 babies automatically U.S. citizens. 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayer.
More than 66% of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
29% (630,000) of the inmates in all state and federal prisons are illegal aliens%u2014at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
More than 53% of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
More than half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
More than 43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens.
More than 41% of all unemployment checks issued in the United States are to illegal aliens.
58% of all welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens.
Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Blackhawk067" (R)
Warren, your points are more intellectually made when you aren't posting while upset. You make some good points here...
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "sabran" (R)
From the 2006 (lst Qtr) INS/FBI Statistical Report -
%u201C12 Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens. (that%u2019s more than 21,900 murders by illegal aliens since September 11, 2001)
13 people per day are killed by illegal immigrants who drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol. An additional 4,745 premature deaths per year.
62% of all %u201Cundocumented immigrants%u201D in the United States are working for cash and not paying taxes, predominantly illegal aliens, working without a green card.
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
More than 380,000 %u201Canchor babies%u201D born in the United States in 2005 were to parents who are illegal aliens; making those 380,000 babies automatically U.S. citizens. 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayer.
More than 66% of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
29% (630,000) of the inmates in all state and federal prisons are illegal aliens%u2014at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
More than 53% of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
More than half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
More than 43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens.
More than 41% of all unemployment checks issued in the United States are to illegal aliens.
58% of all welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens.
Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens.
What a cop out, by the way.....you made the video, we responded and because we provided stats with no links, you're going to act like a child? Your only challenge to my comments was "did you get those numbers from Lou Dobbs?" Brilliant. I still haven't seen any stats from you that prove me wrong.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Blackhawk067" (R)
Do you nothing about the major drug and gang wars going on on our borders.That shit is really serious and spreading into america.why don't you google it yourself if you want a link.we here in the U.S. know these things we don't need a link you moron.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Budwhysure" (R)
1/3 of all those behind bars in california are illegal aliens,FACT.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "texwasabi" (R)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4144686.stm try looking at that warren
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Budwhysure" (R)
Jobs going to china? Well, you should look no further than our retarded tax system which punishes the successful. If we had the Fair Tax in place, then perhaps those jobs could come home.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Sauske" (R)
In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide which total 1,200 to 1,500 target illegal aliens. Up to two thirds of all fugitive felony warrants 17,000 are for illegal aliens.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
In the City of San Diego 26 percent of all burglary arrests and 12 percent of all felony arrests involved illegal aliens, who are estimated to comprise less than 4 percent of the total city population.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/crime/underestimated.html
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/keytabs.htm
Think it depends on the area.. Either way one can justify it by simply saying if the illegal was not here the crime would not of occured. Which would mean less crime..
Think the mayor of tijuana accused the USA of increasing the petty crime rate 300 percent by dumping illegals off there at the border
wow, there are some links, do you think he's actually going to respond to any of them? or just make another video saying that people dont send him any links. Makes ya wonder!
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Sauske" (R)
Well I do like they way you handle your arguments that is ask for some hard evidence.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "aunderly" (R)
You lot are shit at challenging this guy.
I wish to cross swords with you Warren......would you like to discuss and have a very adult debate about immigration here in the UK?
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "Spudmonkey" Premium
They don't have our nukes asshole.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eb9_1201059326
IMMIGRATION AND CRIME
Ramiro Martinez JR.
Look him up on the internet you ignorant asshole. He has done far more research than what you have provided. Maybe you should stick to credible sources like academic journals? or maybe you are too poor to subscribe. JSTOR. is a GREAT database and so is
CQ researcher. Look up Ramiro Martinez.
Idiot.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "SoundSystem" (R)
....If I had to pick Shrekhead's brain for a transplant and Warren's brain....Well hell I would have hooked up Warren's brain long ago.
In an nut shell and on average, people are just too stupid to really comprehend what you just said all together. I know you try to take it slow Warren, but give the public a break. Shrek's head is about to explode.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "ItzMeRon" (B)
In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide which total 1,200 to 1,500 target illegal aliens. Up to two thirds of all fugitive felony warrants 17,000 are for illegal aliens.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
In the City of San Diego 26 percent of all burglary arrests and 12 percent of all felony arrests involved illegal aliens, who are estimated to comprise less than 4 percent of the total city population.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/crime/underestimated.html
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/keytabs.htm
Think it depends on the area.. Either way one can justify it by simply saying if the illegal was not here the crime would not of occured. Which would mean less crime..
Think the mayor of tijuana accused the USA of increasing the petty crime rate 300 percent by dumping illegals off there at the border
Your Stats show immigrants commit crime, I dont argue that, only that they are less likely to commit crime as numerous historical studies from your own gov show.
Posted Jan-31-2008 by "warren25" (R)