David Selig, Conservative Commentator, joins Thom Hartmann. The message of economic equality that we hear coming from the Occupy movement hinges a lot on tax policy. One of the main gripes that Occupy has articulated over the last year was that the 1% no longer pays their fair share in taxes. Conservatives don't disagee - but they argue that low taxes on the 1%, will actually benefit all of us in the long run. They say it's all about helping the so-called job creators - making sure they keep more of their money to...well...create jobs. It's the basis of Reaganomics - or trickle-down economics. But as we know today - it doesn't work. Trickle-down economics works only to create a nation of peons. Since this trickle-down economic philosophy has been adopted - job creation has slowed - economic activity has been stagnant - and only the very very rich, the top 1% have seen any economic gains - while the rest of has have seen losses.
And now there's this: a new report by the Congressional Research Service that delivers the death blow to trickle-down economics. The report examines tax policy since 1945 to determine whether or not low taxes on the rich actually benefits the economy. The report's conclusion: they don't. As the report says: "The results of the analysis suggest that changes over the past 65 years in the top marginal tax rate and the top capital gains tax rate do not appear correlated with economic growth...However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution." In other words - low taxes on the rich...only help the rich. So is this the intellectual death knell in 30-years of Reaganomics? http://rt.com/programs/big-picture/
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Suppose that every day, ten men go out for a beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.
If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.00
The sixth would pay $3.00
The seventh would pay $7.00
The eighth would pay $12.00
The ninth would pay $18.00
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.00
So that's what they decided to do. The men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite More..
Posted Sep-18-2012 ByZANGADO (3013.70) 
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@ZANGADO
{Sustained applause}
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bycleetusawreetus (330.00) 
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@ZANGADO Perfect!
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byaussite (1796.30) 
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@ZANGADO
SPOT ON!
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byboomersooner (2092.84) 
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@ZANGADO: tl;dnr
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bysquackage (74.92) 
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@ZANGADO Doesn't make any more sense than last time you posted it.
Or the time before that.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bycastanza128 (611.72) 
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Face it...there is NO perfect system as yet to be discovered. Free market capitalism elevated more people's standard of living than any system ever founded. Unfortunatley GREED and ENVY are at play alway's.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byboomersooner (2092.84) 
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@boomersooner All three statements are true.
Also: There are those that support the poor mans envy, and those that support the rich mans greed.
For the past few decades, we have supported the rich mans greed.
It shows in the income demographics. This can't be denied.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bycastanza128 (611.72) 
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whay does this matter? hell, 45% of americans pay NO taxes
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bybuoymarker (573.20) 
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@buoymarker
And Mitt Romney is one of them.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bypicklethepug (1261.86) picklethepug View Channel Send Message
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@picklethepug Why do you persist with the outright lie that Romney paid no taxes.
Makes you look more foolish than you are.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byaussite (1796.30) 
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@aussite: Why do you pretend to know - have YOU seen his tax returns? Are you Swiss? LOL
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bysquackage (74.92) 
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@squackage Really???
So you are going to sit there and tell me that he's paid no taxes.
How do you know that.
Common sense would tell me that if he had not paid his fair share he'd be put through the wringer by the IRS.
The only thing your comment proves is your lack of common sense.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byaussite (1796.30) 
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A nation of peons for the rich to pee on.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bysquackage (74.92) 
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RT is not news.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bywharris (2243.22) 
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I was listening to a victim of talk radio explain that the problem with the economy is that the rich people don't have enough money. That the rich people are the only ones that can create jobs to lift the economy out of the recession.
I had to leave before I sent him to the hospital.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bybuttkracken (659.58) buttkracken View Channel Send Message
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Yup, plenty of cash in the system fo sho. So why is Bernake printing more and devaluing our current dollars?
Those "rich" people have no idea what to expect in the future and therfore are not investing in the longterm.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byboomersooner (2092.84) 
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@boomersooner When The Fed Super Hero Ben Lightyear was asked how much money was the Fed going to print for QE3 he said "To infinity and beyond!"
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@buttkracken Uncle bens rice is a traitor.... golds at $1768 i luv watching him lie.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byhighsociety (2101.00) 
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Socialists want to have their cake and eat yours, too.
Then they cry when there's no eggs, no milk, no butter--and they've driven all the bakers out of business.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bycleetusawreetus (330.00) 
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@cleetusawreetus : Let them eat cake!! $wiss Mitt is toast.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bysquackage (74.92) 
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I have been saying this for how long?
Did that Jew just call the non-jews trash?
And the Jews are the ones with the 1% tossing the 99% into the fire for them and their wants, fucking Jews.
theLast American Bastard
Posted Sep-18-2012 BytheLAB (322.10) 
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Well said, because the only thing that trickles down is piss. Conservatives think its liquid gold.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bypicklethepug (1261.86) picklethepug View Channel Send Message
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@picklethepug How about a separation between conservatives and republicans?
Conservative don't have to stay 1000' away from kiddie parks as part of their probation.
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I say "Conservatives" because there are a lot of American right wingers that aren't members of the Republican Party but still share the same views on the tax code.
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@picklethepug There is a hige rift right now between republicans and Ron Paul supporters.
Scum bag republicans want to close ranks with conservatives to defeat Obama, but I can't see which side is worse.
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No one takes these hold overs from the USSR seriously.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bytsnwi (290.90) tsnwi View Channel Send Message
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@tsnwi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bycastanza128 (611.72) 
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Really they had to do a study to find that out.
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Putin loves money trickling down his pockets.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Byimmamoron (151.74) immamoron View Channel Send Message
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I didn't see one single thing in the two paragraphs that was not an outright falsehood.
Posted Sep-18-2012 Bylonewolf6972 (670.06) lonewolf6972 View Channel Send Message
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So how has left wing Socialism worked out for EUROPE?
HAHAHAHAH!!!
We are free men here, not slaves, socialist left wing RULERS will not be tolerated.
Posted Sep-18-2012 ByVikingRapeSquad (1330.90)

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@VikingRapeSquad The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But,under the name "Liberalism, "they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation,without knowing how it happened"
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So how has left wing Socialism worked out for EUROPE?
HAHAHAHAH!!!
We are free men here, not slaves, socialist left wing RULERS will not be tolerated.
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@VikingRapeSquad "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
-- Winston Churchill
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