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Pit Bulls: Bred to be Bad to the Bone

[by By MATTHEW HORAN for The Endangered Dog Breeds Association of Australia]

Chopper is a loveable brindle dog with a big dopey grin and a tail that won’t stop wagging. Two weeks ago, he would have crushed your hand without a thought if you went to pat him. Chopper is a Pit Bull Terrier, the same breed of dog that mauled 76-year-old Toowoomba woman Barbara Stringer to death on December 27 last year. But to look at chopper, who has undergone 2 weeks of intensive training and is now everyone’s best friend, you wonder how much of the talk of banning the breed is a knee-jerk reaction? After Mrs.Stringers horrific death, local councils and state governments began an intense campaign to solve the dangerous dog problems in our cities. If local councils have their way, dogs like Chopper will become an extinct breed, the Do Do of the dog world.

Are Pit Bulls that much more dangerous than attack dogs such as Rottweilers & German Shepherd, or is it a case of “no such thing as bad dogs, just bad owners?" BOTH SAYS THE RSPCA. Paul Edwards. Pit Bulls were breed from Staffordshire Bull Terriers & Bull Mastiffs - Not to guard, or hunt, but to viciously rip other dogs to death in pits while their bloodthirsty owners cheered. “They can literally sever limbs,” the RSPCAs, Paul Edwards said. Unlike German Shepherds, which lock their jaws, Pit Bulls move their back molars once they have bitten. Their lower jaw scissors back & forth to sever flesh from the bone.

They are not large dogs, but they have an enormous power-to-weight ratio. Their jaw strength is far greater than any other dog. A Rottweiler will exert 800 pounds-per-square-inch jaw pressure and a Bull Terrier will exert 1200psi. A Pit Bull will exert more than 2000 psi. You can have savage Labradors and savage Chihuahuas, but none of them has the potential to maim & kill that a pit bull does. 42% of all dog related deaths in the US are from Pit Bulls - & they constitute 1% of all dogs. 70% of those deaths were children.

A Rotty or Doberman are savage because they are territorial - they will defend their space. A Pit Bull is not savage in that sense-just unpredictable. But underlying this ferocity is an overwhelming loyalty to their owners. Dog breeders & Trainers claim they are one of the most loyal breeds of dogs. Even as much as traditionally loyal dogs such as Border Collies. “They are the most loyal & courageous dog imaginable for their owners,” Mr. Edwards said. “But they are entirely unpredictable
around strangers” There are responsible people that own Pit Bulls – their dogs are just less likely to be dangerous than the grubs who blood their dogs & use them for fighting. People like that just use dogs as an extension of their egos. Many of the irresponsible dog owners do not register their Pit Bulls - and if they do they are registered similar to the one in the

Toowoomba attack – as a “Labrador cross.” Pit Bulls are not a registered breed in Australia, although they are in the US as the American Pit Bull Terrier. From the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they have gained attributes of a muscular dog, with a large, strong mouth and furrows to drain the victim’s blood away from their eyes. From the Bull Mastiff they gained a cold heart, lack of emotion, with a high pain
threshold. Dog trainers tell horrific tales of how cruel owners in the south-east Queensland throw their dogs in above ground pools to fight to the death while thousands of dollars are bet.

After 3 kills, the dog is retired and put to stud at $3000 a time - It’s big money trainer Keith Kirkpatrick said. But Mr. Kirkpatrick believes that bloodthirstiness can be trained out of a Pit Bull – to a degree. “They are like a loaded gun."

There are situations you need one, and as long as you’ve got the training and have the safety catch on you’re okay. But if a kid picks up the gun…” he said. Chopper is a testament to his success. The 15 month old Pit Bull has been in intensive training at Mr. Kirkpatricks Cherokee farm in Manly for 2 weeks and has several weeks left. “When he came in he was very animal aggressive and wanted to bite every other dog,” he said. “Now he is really calm – he’s been taught he doesn’t have to punch everyone in the face when he walks down the road.

Dogs and training are like kids – the ones that don’t go to school end up in Boggo Road. He emphasised that Chopper’s owner had been doing all the right things to train the dog – just that the dog needed intensive training to try to overcome inborn traits. “There are a lot of irresponsible owners, especially in the city,” he said. “Pit Bulls are fantastic dogs if you use them for something like pig hunting. But if you’ve got a ten ton truck, you don’t use it to go to the corner shop.” Mr. Kirkpatrick told of one Pit Bull used for pig hunting that was badly gored by a Boar. It kept on at the pig until it (the pig) was dead, then it had its guts pushed back in and washed off with whisky and stitched up. It was back chasing pigs in 3 weeks. No brain no pain.

Dog trainer Bruce Bonney believes most Pit Bulls are beyond redemption. “We had a few 5-week-old puppies along to classes and when I went to shake its neck to chastise it, it turned around with such strength and tried to bite me’” he said. “This was a little puppy, but it had such incredible strength and absolutely no fear.” “The owners had done everything right, but in the end of the day they had to put it down.” If a dog has that level of inbred aggression, it is only suitable for guard work, in close quarters behind a fence where no humans are allowed. Keeping a Pit Bull is like taking a Lion from the zoo and putting it on a leash in the street.

THE FACTS

A Pit Bull bite is three times worse than a Rottweilers.
A Rottweilers has 800psi (Pounds Per Squire Inch Jaw Pressure).
A Bull Terrier has 1200psi,
A pit bull’s bite force is 2000+ psi plus.
A Pit Bull does not lock its jaw as do other dogs, but it lower jaw scissors back and forth to rend flesh from the bone.
Pit Bulls are bred from Staffordshire Bull Terriers – Gaining their incredible musculature - and Bull Mastiffs Gaining a Cold-Hearted lack of emotion and Phenomenal resistance to pain.


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  • people must be getting inbred dogs if u think "inn their blood: that they were born to be killers...i have had this amercian pitbull/bulldog for 10 years so far (he a champ).....

    he is the most stupid...adorible, "pet me im a dog" that always has a smile on his face..but he barks at mexican's (who knows) and he loooves pig ears..he turns to mush for 1...
    get their balls cut off and snip their tail, if u dont want them being aggresive..
    and dont forget the pig ear lol

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  • There is a lot of bad info here. You should at least double check the numbers someone is quoting. There is enough info out there where it wont take you too long.
    2000 PSI?? that's just wrong.

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    • Mr. Pitbull expert: This article is as published from The Breeders's Association of Austrailia, as I acknowledged.

      Tell you what, because you annoy the shit out of everyone here. Go stick your head in a pitbulls mouth and see for yourself. Okay?

      trickee can join you as well. You too must have few friends!

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    • Wow, you are one testy little cunt aren't you..lol. Bad info is Bad info, 2000 PSI? crap google the dam thing on your own. But I guess your knowledge is as worthless as you are.

      Take care and read a book or two.

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    • I have been around many pitbulls and other large breeds all my life. There is a pitbull near me whose mouth I would confidently put my head in if I thought it would (at the very least) cause you to re-evaluate your view ... but I doubt it would. Do you post these videos for the mere purpose of being an asshole to people who post contrary opinions ?

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    • Wrong, it was not published by them. It was originally published by the 'Courier Mail' and then reposted on the website of the 'Endangered Dog Breed Assoc of Australia' to debunk the mis-information in the original article. Here is a link to the rest of this story :

      http://www.edba.org.au/myths.html

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  • What I find interesting about this thread is that all the folk who own or have experience of pit bulls and other large breeds are all pretty much laid back. While all the ones that don't have experience are "kill the dogs", "exterminate the breed" and thumbing down the positive statements ... I guess we have a confluence of assholes on this thread who just don't want to accept real life experience when it is dropped in their lap. Do your own research people, you might learn s More..

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  • LOL, where is the original data for the jaw strength tests and how were they performed ? I searched for this some time back and could not find a source other than casual statements made in the media.

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  • wow all you guys are fucking idiots and so is the writer of this article... They are fucking dogs not mutant vampires, dog fights are not till the death... you guys will believe anything fucking idiots.... its people like you who ruin the quality of life for humans as well as animals. words cant describe how stupid FALSE and idiotic this atricle is...

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  • It don't matter. No amount of BE NICE training won't alter the fact that this breed of dog exists for one purpose, and one purpose only, and that is TO KILL.

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  • i love my rot ,,, but some breeds are not good

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  • Dear God this post is so full of ignorance. 2000 psi, are you insane or just stupid? You realize the strongest bite in the WORLD is a large crododile at 2500psi. Not only that, pit bulls do not have the strongest bites of dogs, large mastiffs hold that record. That's like saying my 160 pound ass can knock out mike tyson. Another thing, Pit Bulls are NOT human agressive, that was bred out of the breed from the very beginning. You think the coward dog fighters want to handle a dog that can t More..

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  • i lived in jo,burg for a few years,met a guy there who was breeding pitbulls for pulling competitions (or so he said) He introduced me to one of his dogs who was called Kojak which was caged up and i swear that was the meanest fu**ing dog ive ever seen!

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  • Bad OWNERS. Period.

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  • a general rule i've always abided by, regarding pets, is: don't own anything that can kill or maim you (doesn't matter what someone else says about how "nice" most of them are)

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  • This will just continue to happen because the morons that choose to own them are in denial and feel like they have to prove a point. And the people in charge are to damn pussy to do anything about it, after all, the dog will fucking bite their faces off and rip their throats out. Fuck the breed.

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  • They are weapons. I support the elimination of dangerous species of dogs.

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    • They are weapons? Do you know whats a "Nanny Dog"?

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    • No species or breed of dog is dangerous, an individual dog may be dangerous. If your statement was true then every single labrador retriever would be a seeing-eye dog, and every single collie could herd sheep perfectly.

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    • There are some breeds of dogs like Chows that are much more prone to bite than other dogs. I think the issue is socialization. It's like saying a person with a good temperament will have a good dog. I have seen nice people with out of control animals that bite. Animals are animals much like humans haver their own personality traits. Regards.

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    • me too,,,

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    • I agree, some dogs are more predisposed to being trained to be mean / dangerous / attack dogs, whatever you want to call it .. that's why good training is paramount. The single biggest factor I have seen with vicious dogs is bad owners and no training. I stand by my original statement, if a "breed" is bad then why is it that there are many occurences of good dogs of that breed ?

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  • Pits are more 'game' that other breeds, thats all. Ahfgan and Japanese fighting dogs all bite for a while then run. Pits will fight till death.

    American pits and Staffies are two separate breeds. Lineage never cross for registered dogs.

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  • Interesting to see the most dangerous and violent species in the world talking about how dangerous dogs are.

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  • you know, 'm all for personal respomsibilty.
    i'm not for the government telling you what to dp or not.
    io've breed and owned euro-blooded german shpards for over a decade.
    and i have to tell you,
    i've got no problem with tese types of dogs being illegal.
    i dont care what anyone says about them. they're bread to be attack dogs and dogs of war.
    its wired into them.
    you shouldn't be allowed to keep them at all. or at least you should need a special license.
    i know that other breeds are re More..

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  • English bull terrier or staffordshire bull terriers ftw.
    American pits are too big.

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  • Can't we exterminate this breed yet?

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  • Bro doesnt know how to hurt anyone. Scratchy kittens intimidate him....even away from his food bowl! He did smash my thumb splitting it open and bruised from me tryin to get a tennis ball from his mouth. I learned my lesson.

    How bout that vid on LL that tests dog bites?

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3db_1203899498

    The rotty won that test over the pit and the shepard. That demonstration went against the facts listed. Also, the measurements of PSI were way lower. Also, IMO people tout &q More..

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    • Bro looks vicious.

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    • He can swing from a rope with a gnarly, foaming display of growling. I know he's physically capable of tearing of flesh, but I'd argue that he doesnt know how. He's ignorant on how to apply his "talent" in a threatening situation because I constantly monitor him and have trained him very well to be a submissive pussy dog. I hope on the other hand if some fool attacks me in my home that broD would eat his nuts.

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  • Rotts are more powerful than pitts and american bulldogs leave pitts behind also as well as Rotts, I own all these breeds but I am more dangerous than them, I drive a car! Stop hating dogs, all dogs can mess you up if left unattended in a backyard, german sheperds have huge canines and scare the crap out of me but no reason to kill them. If you train a dog to be friendly he will be friendly, pitts love people as I found out they love their owners and are very loyal more than other breeds, ro More..

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  • "But to look at chopper, who has undergone 2 weeks of intensive training and is now everyone%u2019s best friend"

    Really???
    Do you ACTUALLY believe that?
    Really????

    Pit Bulls are killers.
    Period.
    They were bred to be killers
    They were designed to be killers
    Not as protectors
    Not as herders
    Not as guard dogs
    Not as lap dogs

    Killers.
    Period.

    While many (I'd say most) Pits will spend their lives as happy little backyard pets who wouldn't even bite a lizard, the FACT remains that Pits f More..

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    • learn to control your dog and he wont bite you. or your friends, the meanest dog I ever had and that bit me or my friends was golden retriever and he would not warn me when he would get pissed, the only dog that cut my skin was a lil 38 lbs. mutt. Breeds are not the problem, the owners are the problem for the most part.

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    • My pits going on 10 years old, never had 1 single incident with my bitch, everyone loves her, as for other dogs?? eh well thats another story, she aint so friendly with other dogs.

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  • I have a surefire method for taming a rancid pitbull...a twelve-guage shotgun shell slug to it's head.

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  • Slaughter the useless fuccking pits. Burn 'em alive.

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  • kill all pits

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