From the Atlantic Wire via Yahoo News
According to Germany's Der Spiegel, German police shot only 85 bullets in all of 2011, a stark reminder that not every country is as gun-crazy as the U.S. of A. As Boing Boing translates, most of those shots weren't even aimed people: "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."
Meanwhile, in the U.S., where the population is little less than four times the size of Germany's, well, we can get to 85 in just one sitting, thank you very much. 84 shots fired at one murder suspect in Harlem, another 90 shot at one fleeing unarmed man in Los Angeles. And that was just April. So we bring you Germany's shot total in case you forgot about America shoots itself in the foot with its manic love of guns.
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http://news.yahoo.com/german-police-used-only-85-bullets-against-people-155155175.html
By: joe prole
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Crime rates, number of shots fired - all irrelevant. The 2nd amendment was designed to give the people the necessary tools to forcefully overthrow a tyrannical government. You want to take guns away from law abiding citizens? Well then you're a Nazi. A tyrannical piece of shit. Keep your pussified and masochistic leftist practices in Europe.
Posted May-12-2012 BySalmonellalover629 (545.00) 
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@Salmonellalover629
Well said!
Posted May-12-2012 BymyCondolences (658.98) myCondolences View Channel Send Message
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@Salmonellalover629 Well, the point is: ok, you have your second amendment, ok, you think it's fine, ok, you think it's the only way, the right way.
Thing is: it comes with a price tag attached. If your willing to pay the price, fine.
European nations, especially Germany, opt for another way (and it is a way opted for by the people, as Germany e.g. is a democratic nation). So, the people choose not to have the right for everyone to own guns without control (as you can still buy, own and shoot gu More..
Posted May-12-2012 ByUac_mitun_ahau (266.42) Uac_mitun_ahau View Channel Send Message
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@Salmonellalover629 If that's the point of the second amendment, would you support the right of ordinary citizens to own battlefield weaponry?
Because that's what it would take to overthrow a tyranical govt pal...
Posted May-12-2012 ByElegantDecline (2144.28) 
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Of course libtards don't like guns - they don't like the idea of a level playing field. Screws with their ideas of a socialist takeover.
Posted May-12-2012 ByFred Flintstone (232.00) 
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@Fred Flintstone But see I'm not against you're opinion. I agree with you 100%, people absolutely have their right to bear arms, it's just the places with the most lax gun laws cause illegal guns to flow into places with stricter regulation. In NY its not impossible to buy a handgun, there is paperwork and a background check and its a pain in the ass but almost no handgun crime in NY happens with guns bought here because responsible people own them, its other places where guns are bought very ea More..
Posted May-12-2012 ByThe Grim (759.90) 
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@The Grim Criminals will always have guns and any illegal things they want - because they're CRIMINALS. No law is going to change that.
Posted May-12-2012 ByFred Flintstone (232.00) 
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@Fred Flintstone You're right they will always somehow in some way have access to them, but they have much more access to them with states with very lax gun laws. I think in many cases you can bet that those legal law biding citizens are not what they seem.
Posted May-12-2012 ByThe Grim (759.90) 
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@The Grim More laws or a "nanny state" is not the answer. Didn't work for dope, and won't work for guns.
Posted May-12-2012 ByFred Flintstone (232.00) 
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Oh,what a bunch of shit!Laws or no laws,criminals will still carry guns.The only people who get the shaft are law abiding citizens.
Posted May-12-2012 ByPanzerkilla2 (67.80) 
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@Panzerkilla2 They can outlaw guns and ammo tomorow and they'll be turning up 100 years from now. I have spoken to guys in gunshops that already know where they will bury them. Guns? What guns?
Posted May-12-2012 By4-B-10-ZONE (1018.36) 
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@4-B-10-ZONE Yeah, you think so?
Guess what. The government hasn't been ignoring you. It's been paying attention to who's buying, registering, and suddenly losing guns. It's been paying extra special attention to people talking about burying some guns.
Your gun shop buddies - do you think they discussed their gun-burying anti-government plans online at any point in their lives? I bet they did. I bet you did too, and it's all catalogued on a master server somewhere in a gray, non-descript build More..
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@hellgremlin Yeah, I'm a horrible planner. As bad as all that sounds, I kind of want to see it happen. Will they have internet and will I be able to use my Xbox at those FEMA camps? =)
Posted May-12-2012 BySinglecoilsnap (616.20) 
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@Singlecoilsnap Ah. You're one of the sane/normal ones. I *was* hoping to provoke a paranoid-psychotic reaction from one of our local LiveLeak conspiracy/anti-gov freaks.
Every now and then, I get an excuse to post something creative that makes a guy build a bunker in the mountains. Sue me :p
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@hellgremlin I figure why build a bunker when you can buy a remodeled missile silo with a 13 ton blast door.
Posted May-12-2012 Bykajidono (686.56) 
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How do you explain a country like Canada, that has tons of guns and people and a low crime rate? It's not the guns that are the problem, it's the people with the guns......it's the mind state. But if ou take away guns in the states, the criminals will still have them (they are criminals, the don't give a shit bout the law) but the law abiding citizens won't.....look at Mexico, guns aren't allowed (they are, but a liscense is damn near impossible to get) and they are being butchered by the dozens More..
Posted May-12-2012 ByBthor420 (870.20) 
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@Bthor420 I completely agree.
Posted May-12-2012 Bystra (188.30) stra View Channel Send Message
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@Bthor420 Well, Canada is explained quite easily:
It's not full of dumb-fuck gun nut rednecks like the US is. It's full of civilized people.
If you increased Canada's population to equal the US, they'd still have far lower per-capita murder rates - simply because they're not rednecks.
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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Lol, you're an idiot. The redneck don't tend to be the problem...I would take a country full of rednecks over our country which is full of blacks mexicans, all of which glorious gang banging....rednecks aren't the ones out shooting each other over clothes, or territory.....that's the problem. Lol not the rednecks......
Posted May-12-2012 ByBthor420 (870.20) 
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@hellgremlin Yeah I don't think its the dumb red necks that are committing the murders here.....do you?
Posted May-12-2012 ByThe Grim (759.90) 
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Lol no. But leave it some idiot in anothe country to think he knows what's going on here.....SMH. His comment might literally be one of the dumbest comments ever on LL...."let's get the rednecks, but not the gangbangers...." lol. What an idiot
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@FundtheMental1
You better hurry. Not much time before the Summer of Bam.
Posted May-12-2012 Byjoe prole (1708.80) 
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Germany...
So what happens when the next Hitler takes power?
Cant force control on people who are armed.
Your not free when your not allowed to defend your own life or your loved ones. You take the bat I'll take the gun lets see who wins..
Posted May-12-2012 Bypetryleak (873.44) 
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Actually,
The Germans are a very disciplined group of people.
In 1980-'s not only did they *west germans) finish paying off the WW I war debt..... They also paid to absorb east germany back into the west german monetary system.
NOW,
the world expects them to PAY for all the mis spending oof the socialist countries of the " EU "
Posted May-12-2012 ByAiredale (2723.46) 
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@petryleak The idea that your hunting rifle is going to protect you from your Govt which is far, far more powerful than any European Govt is really rather comical...thanks for the hoot
Posted May-12-2012 ByElegantDecline (2144.28) 
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@ElegantDecline Its comical, but he does have a point. Most gun regulations only affect the Law abiding citizen.
I think its a little too late for that. If there was a pistol ban in the 1900s then maybe they would have had a chance. But the criminals already have their guns, and they already have their gun supply. Gun Regulations wont stop that.
Posted May-12-2012 Bystra (188.30) stra View Channel Send Message
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@petryleak When? Obama is pretty damn close if you ask me. What damage to our rights, economy, and society he hasn't done already, he's vindictive enough to have deliberately PAVED THE WAY FOR ANOTHER FUTURE OLIGARCHY.
"...and the #1 all-time evil: LEADERSHIP."
Posted May-12-2012 By4-B-10-ZONE (1018.36) 
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So, what's the point?? Because cops in the USA shoot more bullets then cops in germany, citizens(not cops ?) shouldn't be allowed to have guns? Makes no sense at all.
Posted May-12-2012 Bywooly mammoth (7.50) wooly mammoth View Channel Send Message
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@wooly mammoth No, the point is that American culture is inferior, more violent and less civilized than German culture.
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@hellgremlin: Well Americans can still aspire to be scat film watching effeminate metro fags who have a history of servility towards tyranny along with marching millions of women and children into ovens.
Posted May-12-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2081.94) 
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@hellgremlin
Just because Germans are better oven makers doesn't make them better.
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@Moore Slayer Ok, I... that was beautiful.
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@hellgremlin It took the murder of 3 million Jews for the Germans to lighten up. Let's talk about who is getting the bullets from these cops....right?
Posted May-13-2012 Bydog64 (462.66) 
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U.S. Media can try to push gun control all they want. Almost no one is buying it. There's been too many riots and disasters where the government proved itself instantly worthless at protecting us. (KATRINA). I saw the LA Riots firsthand. It took me 5 years to decide to arm up.
The way they are doing it now is piling on the shootings, that were happening anyway and that previously got no coverage. There has not been some anomaly or solar flare that caused more gun crimes to suddenly happ More..
Posted May-12-2012 By4-B-10-ZONE (1018.36) 
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Retort:
1. We don't fire warning shots.
2. Germany isn't overrun with race-card carrying, "whitey owes me", ghetto trash; the only solution to this societal blight is a bullet in the chest.
3. Your story is courtesy of Yahoo, the demonstrated "leader" in "factual" information sharing...
Posted May-12-2012 Bystaxman (96.10) 
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@staxman Counter-retort:
1. Tacit approval of police brutality.
2. Racism and antipathy toward minorities.
3. Attacking the source of information when the information is inconvenient.
4. Avatar containing anti-female violence as the cherry on the asshole sundae.
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@hellgremlin What does your retarded avatar mean then? Just a liberal loving, tree hugging yuppie that would like to jerk off dolphins and send 37 cents a day to a starving african.
Posted May-12-2012 BySinglecoilsnap (616.20) 
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@Singlecoilsnap What does my avatar mean?
I'll tell you.
Have you ever noticed that the Tea Party crowd tends to yell loudest for cuts to medicare?
Have you ever *seen* a Tea Party rally? It's mostly old almost-dead people full of hate, riding around on mobility scooters, and huffing from oxygen tanks.
The people who ask for the most cuts to Medicare are the people who are most dependent on Medicare. Republicans. Right-wingers. Conservatives. Whatever you want to call them.
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@hellgremlin Gotcha ya. But bashing the Tea Party is like bashing mormons, it's fun but in the end it's irrelevant.
Posted May-12-2012 BySinglecoilsnap (616.20) 
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@Singlecoilsnap It's never irrelevant. if you can consistently defeat a group's argument or reason for being, you can defeat them entirely...
Posted May-12-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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Using Germany as a propaganda piece for co-existance and control seems pretty silly considering it was the aggressor in two world wars which resulted in the deaths of tens of millions. There's more blood on the hands of that nation than any other in the history of the world. Having cops that don't shoot often hardly makes up for it. I'll take the US manic love of guns over Germany's manic love of war any day.
Posted May-12-2012 Byweada (494.20) 
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@weada You do realise that WWII ended in 1945, don't you? That today's Germany is something quite different from the Third Reich?
As for "Germany's manic love of war", the opposite is the case. U.S. politicians complained about Germany and its unwillingness to go to war (e.g. Iraq) quite a bit. Since 1945 there has been no German war.
Also, war is one thing, has to do with foreign policies and relationships (Germany is a NATO member); having a society that needs only 85 shots fired by More..
Posted May-12-2012 ByUac_mitun_ahau (266.42) Uac_mitun_ahau View Channel Send Message
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@weada weak
Posted May-12-2012 ByElegantDecline (2144.28) 
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@Uac_mitun_ahau Don't bother...its a pathetic argument, unworthy of challenge
Posted May-12-2012 ByElegantDecline (2144.28) 
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@weada
WWII was ages ago. None in charge of anything relevant then is still alive today. Otherwise, how far back in time are we allowed to go to tell how much blood is in someone's hands today?
Posted May-12-2012 ByValerie2007 (779.92) 
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@weada I get what you're saying, but that's not a valid argument. By that logic I guess USA still has a manic love for slaves right? Or Britain still has a manic love for imperialism.
Posted May-12-2012 Bystra (188.30) stra View Channel Send Message
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49 warning shots seems like a waste of ammo
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Perhaps, but so do 84 shots fired at a single individual. This is poor aiming combined with shitting in the pants. Intensive training seems to be required in both cases.
Posted May-12-2012 ByAlainGalvez (25.80) 
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@AlainGalvez True, I was taught you should never need to fire more than once or you shouldn't have shot in the first place.
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Molon Labe
Posted May-12-2012 Byr00ted (236.58) 
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6 million jews died because they couldn't defend themsleves. They got some balls to defend gun control.
Posted May-13-2012 BySmash the left (35.70) 
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It's like comparing apples with oranges...
Posted May-12-2012 ByBlea (37.10) 
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Ah, false analogies from surrender monkey, soft on crime and coddle the criminal Euro Weenie Cowards, how odd and out of character.
The Germans murdered about 30 million people less than a century ago, so they're reticent these days. They've had their fill for awhile.
What I laugh most at is the sycophantic American leftist gun hating weenies who think unilaterally disarming LEGAL and HONEST gun owners will somehow end the gun violence.
Yeah, sure, that's how it works.
Thanks for a laugh.
Posted May-12-2012 ByBunkerGearGal (997.44) 
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@BunkerGearGal
No man, you got it all wrong, the surrender monkeys aren't the Germans, it's us, the French! Not the same country man, get your bloody geography right for god's sake!
Posted May-12-2012 ByAlainGalvez (25.80) 
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