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AR-10 Original Promo Video

This is an original promo video made, I think, during the 1950's when Armalite was attempting to get the army to adopt the AR10 as its replacement for the M1 Garand. In the end, the Army chose the M14, but the AR10 would go on to serve as the basis for the M16.

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Added: Mar 22 2009   In: entertainment,education,other

By: Guvnor  United States

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  • Quoted comment by tackle: thats a dutch invention...but our government wouldnt let it be built

    Eugene Stoner was the designer, an American.

    Posted Jul-29-2009 by "HuntGather" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by J Davis: A lot of "experts" still think Colt invented Stoner's AR, a load of crap though about the cleaning huh? Didn't show how dirty and fouled the upper assembly's breech and gas tube exhaust get. The big complaint with these rifles in Vietnam was how they fouled and failed until the forward assist was added.

    Don't forget adding a chrome bore also.

    Posted Jul-29-2009 by "HuntGather" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by DreadnoughtFIN: They should have chosen the AK, would have came in useful in Nam. But I guess the AK would have been a politically incorrect choice back then...

    The U.S. military philosophy has always been one of individual marksmenship. Not spray and pray. The m 16 was/is a much more accurate weapon.

    Posted Jul-29-2009 by "HuntGather" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by HuntGather:
    Quoted comment by tackle: thats a dutch invention...but our government wouldnt let it be built

    Eugene Stoner was the designer, an American.

    After the M14 was chosen for the next US rifle, Stoner sold the rights to the Netherlands, to the A.I. Hembrug state armory. They modified and redesigned some significant details, and the rifle was almost become the new infantery rifle of the Dutch army. Unfortunatly, some few K AR10's where sold to Portugal, and they started to kick some Soedan asses with the AR10's. The left-winged prime-Minister from Holland didn't liked that, so he closed the State facility for small arms production. The FAL became the new rifle for the Army. Fortunatly, most 'Hembrug' AR10's where sold to civilian targetshooters, and many records where shot with the AR10 in match inviroment. It was far more accurate that the highly tuned M1 match Garands, which where dilivered by the State armory (they used U.S. NM techniques) and used also by match shooters in Holland.
    It's very commen to see an original 1955 Dutch AR10 here on the range. They go for almost the same price as an NM tuned and new AR15. Approx. 1200,- to 2000,- Euro's, depending on his condition. A.I. Hembrug also provided a special Match AR10, named AR102, which features some techniques on sighting and lay-out which Colt came up with in the early 80's with the M16A2! More than 30 years later!
    I'm proud that our small country build and (re-) designed a nice and accurate rifle like the AR10. The only thing they couldn't solve (neighter did Stoner) was the bcommen breaking of the bold-catch. We use a dummy round as last round in the magazine, so the bold isn't hold back after the last shot with chance of breacking the bold-catch device.

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    Posted Sep-9-2009 by "tackle" (R) Netherlands

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  • Quoted comment by tackle:
    Quoted comment by HuntGather:
    Quoted comment by tackle: thats a dutch invention...but our government wouldnt let it be built

    Eugene Stoner was the designer, an American.

    After the M14 was chosen for the next US rifle, Stoner sold the rights to the Netherlands, to the A.I. Hembrug state armory. They modified and redesigned some significant details, and the rifle was almost become the new infantery rifle of the Dutch army. Unfortunatly, some few K AR10's where sold to Portugal, and they started to kick some Soedan asses with the AR10's. The left-winged prime-Minister from Holland didn't liked that, so he closed the State facility for small arms production. The FAL became the new rifle for the Army. Fortunatly, most 'Hembrug' AR10's where sold to civilian targetshooters, and many records where shot with the AR10 in match inviroment. It was far more accurate that the highly tuned M1 match Garands, which where dilivered by the State armory (they used U.S. NM techniques) and used also by match shooters in Holland.
    It's very commen to see an original 1955 Dutch AR10 here on the range. They go for almost the same price as an NM tuned and new AR15. Approx. 1200,- to 2000,- Euro's, depending on his condition. A.I. Hembrug also provided a special Match AR10, named AR102, which features some techniques on sighting and lay-out which Colt came up with in the early 80's with the M16A2! More than 30 years later!
    I'm proud that our small country build and (re-) designed a nice and accurate rifle like the AR10. The only thing they couldn't solve (neighter did Stoner) was the bcommen breaking of the bold-catch. We use a dummy round as last round in the magazine, so the bold isn't hold back after the last shot with chance of breacking the bold-catch device.

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    Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that part of the story.
    Speaking of match grade M1 Garands, my father has one, and I used it to shoot in a few DCM matches when I was very young, maybe 13 or 14 years old.

    Posted Sep-10-2009 by "HuntGather" (R) United States

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  • A lot of "experts" still think Colt invented Stoner's AR, a load of crap though about the cleaning huh? Didn't show how dirty and fouled the upper assembly's breech and gas tube exhaust get. The big complaint with these rifles in Vietnam was how they fouled and failed until the forward assist was added.

    Posted Mar-22-2009 by "J Davis" (R) United States

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  • j davis i think the forward assist was added so the soldier could break the rifle open if the bolt got stuck back too far. As for the AR 10, it was not a bad rifle but one blew up during testing so it was eliminated from competition with the m-14 and FN FAL. Armalite did manage to tell several thousand of these to Portugal, and they used them in their colonial war in Angola. In both the AR 10 and M 16 elimination of gas tube and piston was a serious design flaw, as not only did it dump unfired power back into the bolt area cuasing jams, it caused the rifle to heat up too fast. I know a guy who was in a firefight in Vietnam and his m 16 got so red hot the barrel wilted and bent down from the heat.

    Posted Mar-22-2009 by "Hitler_Is_Amazing" Premium United States

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  • Quoted comment by J Davis: A lot of "experts" still think Colt invented Stoner's AR, a load of crap though about the cleaning huh? Didn't show how dirty and fouled the upper assembly's breech and gas tube exhaust get. The big complaint with these rifles in Vietnam was how they fouled and failed until the forward assist was added.

    With all the tight machining tolerances it is kind of hard to get the thing really clean. The m16 descendents of this rifle are accurate but very intolerant of dirty battlefield conditions. And, what battlefield isn't dirty. Plus, every time we go to the range we spend all day firing and the next 2 days cleaning our m16s.

    Posted Mar-22-2009 by "SpookGA" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by Hitler_Is_Amazing: j davis i think the forward assist was added so the soldier could break the rifle open if the bolt got stuck back too far. As for the AR 10, it was not a bad rifle but one blew up during testing so it was eliminated from competition with the m-14 and FN FAL. Armalite did manage to tell several thousand of these to Portugal, and they used them in their colonial war in Angola. In both the AR 10 and M 16 elimination of gas tube and piston was a serious design flaw, as not only did it dump unfired power back into the bolt area cuasing jams, it caused the rifle to heat up too fast. I know a guy who was in a firefight in Vietnam and his m 16 got so red hot the barrel wilted and bent down from the heat.

    Your first sentence is only partially true. The forward assist is there to push the bolt forward when either there is a short powder charge in the ammo that causes improper cycling or when the rifle gets so fouled or dirty that manually pushing the bolt forward is necessary. It has nothing to do with the breakdown of the rifle.

    Posted Mar-22-2009 by "SpookGA" (R) United States

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  • very advanced idd

    Posted Mar-22-2009 by "esthero" (R) Netherlands

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  • where am I without my winter mittens?

    Posted Mar-23-2009 by "BeSerious" (R) United States

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  • They should have chosen the AK, would have came in useful in Nam. But I guess the AK would have been a politically incorrect choice back then...

    Posted Mar-23-2009 by "DreadnoughtFIN" (R) Finland

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  • Despite the issues with reliability, in Vietnam it was shown that those armed with M16s routinely out-gunned those armed with AK-47s.

    Posted Mar-23-2009 by "Metapotent" (R) United States

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  • people bad mouth the m-16, but i've used and abused an m-16 for three years and it's a great rifle (i've never used this ar 10 rifle, it seems a bit different).

    Posted Mar-23-2009 by "gatyair" (R)

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  • I qualified at Parris Island with a 246 out of 250 using the M-1. I used the M-14 when it first came out and couldn't hit shit.

    Posted Mar-23-2009 by "ideaman" (R) United States

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