Could LHC create blackholes ?
Dr. Walter L. Wagner discusses the potential destruction of our planet earth by creating micro black holes and strangelets with the LHC. He indicates the current CERN safety reports are seriously flawed and contain unacceptable risks.
For example, if micro black holes are created, which CERN estimates about 1 micro black hole every second, Dr. Rossler's calculations estimate 50 months to 50 years to grow large enough to destroy Earth.
So the effects of this experiment may be months to years after the first LHC collisions.
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Added: Dec-1-2009
By: anurag_kati
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Tags: LHC, black hole
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By: anurag_kati
In: Other
Tags: LHC, black hole
Marked as: approved
Views: 3698 | Comments: 32 | Votes: 0 | Favorites: 2 | Shared: 1 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 1
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I wonder how this would be seen if it were Iran that had made the thing, or some other shithole, west hating, muslim country?
Posted Dec-2-2009 Bysplifftoken (229.68) 
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Dont worry it takes brains to make stuff like this. Cavemen can only kill and spread terror.
Posted Dec-2-2009 Byanurag_kati (489.76) 
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Like all science there is no absolute 100%. So even a .000000000000001% chance of this destroying the earth is still too great of a risk.
And black holes only dissipate if they have no more matter to intake. Even at a microscopic level, if it has matter to feed on it will continue to grow.
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByTheMagistrate (34.24) 
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Wow no offence mate but you have surely been reading too many spook stories. You are essentially saying that anything has the possibility (no matter how remote) of destroying the world, hence we should halt every experiment forever.
Collisions with the same energy as the LHC can produce, happen all the time in our upper atmosphere. Don't you think we would be dead by now if you were right about even the smallest blackholes never collapsing if there is matter available to appropriate?
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByBonescan (13.74) Bonescan View Channel Send Message
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Yes that is EXACTLY what I am saying. and all scientists know that the occurence of Earth and life on it is fleeting compared to the universe and its destructive power. so yes we can go at any time. Why create something to make the odds greater? We already have artificial pathogens and nuclear weapons, wait lets take things further right? RIGHT??
The LHC is a waste of money. We will find out great things about the universe, however those answers do not change anything. Everyone knew that More..
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByTheMagistrate (34.24) 
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I really don't know how to say anything to reassure you, since you only see the LHC as a debating tool and a waste of time.
I'm sure you are a well intentioned but you are obviously terrified by anything you don't understand.
All i can suggest is that you live your next few months to the fullest lol....
Posted Dec-5-2009 ByBonescan (13.74) Bonescan View Channel Send Message
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it will.. but they will be at the atomic level and will last a fraction of a second. Anyone who says otherwise is a tinfoil hat wearing idiot.
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByNurb (1005.12) 
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Agreed, when they turn this on, nothing but pure science will be made from this, scientists are going to find out some fantastic stuff.
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByBlackwolfhunting (672.72) 
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They spent billions on it.. No theory will stop it now! Simple fact is they dont know what will happen. If they knew what will happen they never would have built it!
Risk is so fun.
Posted Dec-2-2009 Bypetryleak (869.04) 
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If it the worst happens.... I hope we nuke Switzerland for spite's sake.
Posted Dec-2-2009 Byverykron (116.06) 
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Awesome info!
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByInfinitedee76 (105.12) 
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Who is paying for this thing?
Posted Dec-2-2009 Byda17th-letta (105.88) 
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steven hawkings will save us all ,dont worry !
Posted Dec-2-2009 Byklachinikov (142.44) klachinikov Send Message
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whats the fact that this WONT happen ?
why do ppl think it wont
i want to hear that argument
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByGetzlaf15 (62.26) Getzlaf15 Send Message
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I am waiting on that answer too. I would guess that nobody posting here is qualified to answer that question. Maybe someone here could point you to someone that is... Anyone that comes on this board and makes a claim that they know the answer to your question that is not qualified to answer this question (and as I said it is doubtful that anyone on this site is) is an idiot. I would like to hear from experts on all sides who have objectively studied these questions and anyone who disagrees and h More..
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByRebelYell2007 (114.68) 
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The only argument you need to recognize is that the most intelligent people on the planet are in consensus that it's completely safe. There is a consensus FAR beyond what there is behind things like global warming, and these physicists and cosmologists are wildly more intelligent in the first place. There is more of a consensus now about the safety of particle colliders than there was surrounding the safety of the first A-bomb test for instance.
Hawking and Kaku. etc. Take their word for it, no More..
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByST0N3PONY (5063.62) 
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The black holes would be at the atomic level... they would only last microseconds. We simply do not have the energy to create anything more.
Posted Dec-2-2009 Bysteveaustin1971 (377.72) steveaustin1971 View Channel Send Message
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If the LHC created a black hole, it'd be tiny as hell and wouldn't have that much gravity. Black holes evaporate faster the smaller they are, so it would also disintegrate immediately. They evaporate through 'Hawking radiation'. Virtual particle pairs are created near a black hole's surface and one particle in the pair gets sucked in and gains energy. This allows the other particle to escape and leads to a net loss of mass/energy.
Posted Dec-2-2009 Bytrainwreckmetal (35.16) trainwreckmetal View Channel Send Message
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Our current knowledge and tech, it would be completely impossible to do what these fear mongers say will happen.
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByRepConTilDeath (386.58) RepConTilDeath View Channel Send Message
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Coolest theory for the end of the earth EVER! Somebody should do a movie.
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByDarioInfini (208.64) 
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The LHC is not doing anything that does not already happen millions times in the universe. Only tin foil hates believe it will cause a black hole that could destroy the earth.
Posted Dec-3-2009 By-stile- (697.20) 
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The west also excel at technology (like the computer you are typing on) but i don't want to piss on your hate party.
Keep buying our products and technology.... and complaining.
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByBonescan (13.74) Bonescan View Channel Send Message
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What an Original Concept to question....
,,, almost like no-one has already considered this?
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByDonovan301 (975.58) 
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wow and i thought it was gonna be the mayan calendar that was ment to kill us off? all this negative its bound to happen!
Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted Dec-2-2009 ByItsOnlyAFleshWound (89.84) ItsOnlyAFleshWound View Channel Send Message
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How can a calendar kill anyone ?
Posted Dec-2-2009 Byneilanboy (175.16) neilanboy Send Message
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