Canadian revisionism of the War of 1812
Oh this is gonna start some Sh-t. The only reason I posted this vid is to get some great discussions going. Please play nice. This is not my vid, and I will remove it if asked to do so. To all Americans and Canadians, we are still great neighbors and I mean no dissrespect to anyone by posting this vid.
Added: Mar-23-2012 Occurred On: Mar-23-2012
By: treday
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Tags: Canada, US, War of 1812, Revised, War, Battle, British
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By: treday
In: Other Entertainment
Tags: Canada, US, War of 1812, Revised, War, Battle, British
Location: Canada (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 2649 | Comments: 81 | Votes: 2 | Favorites: 3 | Shared: 0 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 2
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The land might not have been named Canada yet... but the Americans crossed the Niagara River and got massacred by farmers, militia and a small group of Grand river natives at queenston hights..... Again at Stoney Creek....and a third time In Quebec by the metis and the crazy frenchmen... These battles helped unite Canada and kept our colonies from becoming American States... So to me, Yes we won the war. But Its also true that Britain invaded the US and was fought off, or America would be now be More..
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByJroc2877 (238.96) 
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Actually it was. The current Province of Ontario was called Upper Canada and Quebec was lower Canada. Upper Canada was established in 1791.
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByCaptain Canuck (1472.92) 
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@Jroc2877 "Natives, Frenchmen, United, won the war"?! I was under the impression that some Canadians still want to separate. And "winning the war"? The then British subjects along with some French subjects and some indigenous natives won a few minor skirmishes. They Lost the war!
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bydownhill2400 (1357.68) downhill2400 View Channel Send Message
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@downhill2400 ....Americans attacked us... with their military... they wanted our land.
We won ALL the MINOR skirmishes on our side of the border, with FARMERS AND MILITIA AND NATIVES. The french might have hated the British... But they hated the americans more... Same with the Natives... This defense of our land help unite Canada as a country... We won our battle... on our land.. If we lost I would be an American
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByJroc2877 (238.96) 
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@Captain Canuck ...Canada wasnt a country yet is what i meant.. but thanks
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByJroc2877 (238.96) 
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This was not about America wanting Canadian land. It was about trade restrictions that Britain was putting on the U.S. and about impressing American citizens into British naval service. Forts in Canada represented Britain's strongest presence in the Americas, and weakening this presence was a means for undermining British power, opening up trade, and protecting American citizens.
As for the French, considering that they were fighting against the British at the time, and that Brita More..
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bybuzzardist (362.84) 
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I think you left out.
In the United States, battles such as the Battle of New Orleans of 1815 and the Battle of Baltimore of 1814 (which inspired the lyrics of the United States national anthem, "The Star-Spangled Banner") produced a sense of euphoria over a "second war of independence" against Britain. It ushered in an "Era of Good Feelings" in which partisan animosity nearly vanished. Canada also emerged from the war with a heightened sense of national feeling an More..
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByCanadian from the US (107.70) 
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@Canadian from the US totally agree thank you
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByDocwhispr (197.82) Docwhispr View Channel Send Message
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A lot died for nothing? You'd hardly say that if it were the British government kidnapping your people and forcing them into naval service, or if it were British troops who decided to invade your country. King George decided that he didn't like giving up his colonies after all, and he wanted to keep using the United States as colonies that he could exploit in order to help fight the war against Napoleon. That independence from a foreign dictator controlling people's li More..
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bybuzzardist (362.84) 
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@Canadian from the US Bullshit Ive gotten into several good natured ball bustings over this with Canadians over some beers. They teach it like you guys won it. Im fine with it. Not like we will ever fight either the brits or canadians again.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bytrichome1 (197.90) 
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@buzzardist America has kidnapped it's own people in the past, they call it a draft list. But I guess that's ok. btw I'm American. If you really want to get into specifics. Canada remembers mainly the "siege of Detroit". If only they could have seen the future. = )
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByCanadian from the US (107.70) 
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@Canadian from the US Well said and backed up.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bytreday (484.40) 
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Personally, I don't really care. It's mostly lighthearted fun when Canadians bring up The Burning Of Washington, D.C.
We burned York, Canada as well where the legislature buildings were so its tit for tat pretty much but they never mention that. Oh well, got the Star Spangled Banner out of that war so I guess its not all stupid.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Byburns4130 (183.80) 
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@burns4130 So the star spangaled banner isnt really american either?? inspired by Canadians... lol
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByCatJuggler (392.00) 
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@burns4130 the burning of a Provincial capital can not be equated to that of a National capital.
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByAariss (392.72) 
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Couldn't care less and I don't think either side really does either.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bymegahirtz (157.12) 
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Napoleon cost Britain America.If we had been able to use all our resourses at the time.We could have fielded 100,000 men in both wars,and a navy that ruled the world.Americans would all have no guns now,drink tea,and play cricket,and football badly.You would all have bad teeth,and eat fish and chips.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (605.72) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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@drivenwell2 we drink tea daily. :)
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByAmusing (5320.78) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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@Amusing Wich is strange,because we all drink coffee now!
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (605.72) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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@drivenwell2 - You're right, on the former, but not the latter. Britain was tied down fighting it's arch nemesis. Had it not been, there is NO way America would have even thought about invading Canada.....regardless impressment. But today, America is much like Britain then.....stretched beyond it's means, over taxed and bloated with corruption.
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByBogenschutze (195.22) Bogenschutze View Channel Send Message
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@Bogenschutze I see it more like the fall of the Roman empire.The British army recruits from all over the world.The romans did the same.Britian has already sold off most of its major utilty companies,to russian,and chinese investors.Our gas,oil,water,and electric prices are controled by foriegn powers!!!Destruction from within.
Posted Mar-24-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (605.72) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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The americans made about 300 movies about the vietnam war to make themselves look like they won...there's an inferiority complex to the max.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bymannixxx (651.24) 
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@mannixxx which of those movies makes it look like a win?
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bystesan (95.82) 
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@mannixxx I agree with your statement regarding the Vietnam war loss and the disinformation, I disagree with your "inferiority complex" as the motivating factor. The movies are made to mislead the average American as a necessity to maintain a very expensive military/industrial complex going full-swing.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bydownhill2400 (1357.68) downhill2400 View Channel Send Message
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@stesan there's 300...pick one.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bymannixxx (651.24) 
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I have to admit one thing -- today Canadians sure are beating the daylights out of us economically.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Byjoe prole (1708.80) 
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@joe prole We're in the same boat just sitting on a higher seat , bail faster would ya?
Posted Mar-23-2012 Byconcretehead01 (2839.88) concretehead01 View Channel Send Message
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Bullshit, despite the ridiculous text the Canadian reporter was very honest and open in his reporting even leveling his own criticisms.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bydorbie (2541.30) dorbie View Channel Send Message
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nice vid.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bystesan (95.82) 
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great, now Canadians are going to raise the price of syrup. thanks a lot! hugs to all of our Canadian friends!
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByAmusing (5320.78) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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Very interesting how the desire to sell books and magazines can have an adverse effect on truth.
Posted Mar-23-2012 Bydownhill2400 (1357.68) downhill2400 View Channel Send Message
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actually the place was called Canada and it's citizens were Canadians . Much like the place was America yet they called themselves Americans prior to the DoI. It was technically a tie because The US won at sea, but lost on the ground. The ONLY government building left in DC after the war was the post office. The end result was the borders were clearly drawn and the British stopped the imprisonment program.
Great post the one clear defeat the British had on the ground.. which happened AFTER the More..
Posted Mar-23-2012 ByAariss (392.72) 
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u forgot to mention that french people under british command played a HUGE role in the war, (quebec exist since 1608) the war was mainly on quebec and toronto territory, the americans even tried to conquer MTL they were pushed back around chateauguay on the other shore of the st-lawrence, then they backed in the usa .....the rest is history
Posted Mar-23-2012 Byr3m (331.70) 
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Fact is, in the war of 1812, we Americans were wholly inept and - to put it mildly - unprofessional, continually shooting ourselves in the foot (as it were) by allowing our troops to burn and loot Canadian farms. Talk about "winning hearts and minds".....phphphttt!!! For that alone, we deserved to have our asses handed to us.
Until our rag-tag forces started that crap, there was a clear majority of Canadians who were more than willing to stand by and watch America take over Canada. Af More..
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByBogenschutze (195.22) Bogenschutze View Channel Send Message
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