In recent days, many conservative and Republican leaders have called on Mitt Romney to release his tax returns. In a recent post on Live Leak, a member asks, "Romney's tax returns might show he's not even American? No?"
George William Curtis said, "A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, river and woods, but is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle".
With that in context, it has to be understood that being an American citizen and being a patriot for America are two separate status's. When it comes to politicians it is more important to ask, "Is this man/woman a patriot for America, or a patriot for his/her own agenda"? That, my friends, is the real question.
Let me throw a couple things out there, just for shits and giggles...
Because Romney's father was born in Mexico, does that make his father Mexican?
Romney lived in France for a number of years, does that make him French?
(Before all the 'birthers' jump in here and say the obvious thing that's on their mind, let me add this... If Obama's birth certificate was faked, why didn't the establishment clearly prove it before he became a Senator in Illinois?)
Romney was involved in an accident in which a passenger of his car was killed. Does that make Romney a murderer? Was he drinking? Or, could he have been initially found guilty of vehicular manslaughter and his father, a prominent US politician paid the French off?
There are so many things in Romneys past that us "libs" could start a conspiracy theory about, but choose not to.
If the 'left' (collectively) voiced our concerns about Romney, the same way many of the 'right' have voiced their concerns over Obama, there would be many more 'conspiracy posts' about Romney on this site, equal to or greater than what's being posted about Obama. Just sayin... But, unlike many conservatives, a good portion of liberal America doesn't think this way.
Fundamentally, this is one of the differences between both sides. Typically, liberals don't question someone's patriotism, their birth record, their past. What concerns us is "how well will this politician do as a representative of me and my beliefs"?
Just to make it clear, I am not writing this to question Romney's patriotism, his ethics, or his underwear. I will question this man's motives and how well he represents my issues.
I'm not here to push any of Romney's past into question, how well he speaks french, whether or not he was drinking when that accident occurred.
I'm not going to ask about his birth certificate, nor am I going to ask to show me his tax returns. Why? Because I figure if he wants to gain the trust of the American people, and if he believes in transparency, he would release them.
But, I feel if he is going to succeed in winning the prize of the Presidency, it would be in his best interest, for transparency sake, to release them. Do I care what his returns show? Not really. He needs to release them out of principle at this point.
Do I like him as a person, I'm sure I would.
Do I agree with his policies? No.
(Do I totally agree with anyones policies? No.)
Do I question his patriotism? Sure... Why? Because it is MY RIGHT to question his motives to become President.
So, is Romney really an American? Of course he is...
This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.... (I hope everyone has a great weekend! Stay safe!)
ILP
By: ILovePickles
In: Your Say
Tags: Romney, America, Obama, Tax Returns, Captain Kangaroo, France, Drunk Driving, ILP, Peaches and Cream, Damn good coffee this morning!
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This is the only Obama strategy left
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByMegadeth (1433.50) 
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And what's that?
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByILovePickles (429.46) 
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Having the nations retards post shit anywhere they can no matter if it's true or not. That's what!
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byphilfan4evr (400.00) 
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Amen.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByBergheim Bob (50.10) 
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@Megadeth Really? Lets be logical for a second.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byneutral_person (157.92) 
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@philfan4evr
Oh, kinda like all the hundreds of 'birther' videos, posts and comments? Gotchya!
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByILovePickles (429.46) 
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IMHO
Only way to figure out a person's beliefs/values is to review his/her past decisions.
If you trust what a politicians say, you are naive.
So far, the disclosed info on Romney.
He is Secretive, Manipulative, Biased towards the rich, a little war hungry, little regard for anyone else but himself.
I dont understand why anyone in the 99% would think their goals are Romney's goals.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byheydoin (170.24) heydoin View Channel Send Message
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@heydoin Better than SOETORO
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByXyBerFuNK (1207.30) 
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@XyBerFuNK WHAT? SOETORO is OB's step father. Whats your point?
Ethnicity isnt my point. Actions are.
another one..
Romney doesnt drink. I dont think he trusts himself. Implying he will say even more stupid things when he's drunk.
MY grandfather warned me never to trust someone who chooses not drink. To me, this theory still holds some weight.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byheydoin (170.24) heydoin View Channel Send Message
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The Left is absolutely pathetic.
We know 0bama isn`t an American, by his every action, two forged birth cert`s and his sealed record`s.
But the Leftard`s ignore all of that, like they do anything that makes 0bama look bad.
Pathetic mindless Drone`s.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByDave556 (1949.56) 
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@Dave556 Who is "We" and where's the proof? A Kenyan birth certificate would be good... And that Texan sheriff? He clearly has an agenda, knowing his past involvement with the federal government...
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByILovePickles (429.46) 
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@Dave556 Well what makes Mitt Romney American? All because your view of what an american is does not fit Obama does not make him an american. Respect of other views is what makes america great.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byneutral_person (157.92) 
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Why do you post something like, "Respect of other views is what makes america great" but every time someone post something you disagree with you feel the need to disrespect them?
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byphilfan4evr (400.00) 
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@philfan4evr Disrespect them? Did insult Dave? I have seen enough of Dave's posts to know his positions. I know exactly what he thinks an american is. If telling the truth is disrespectful then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byneutral_person (157.92) 
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@ILovePickles Pickles, when they say the President isn't an American, what they really mean is he's not a white American.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byforqalso (189.94) 
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You are so almost right Pickles. Actually Mitt Romney is not of this Earth. He was sent here by the inhabitants of the Planet Sytiman, and his real name is Yenmor Ttim. His mission is to totally corner the Earthworm industry, and the only way to do this is to become President. Then he can give government subsidies to the Earthworm farmers who in turn will give him 50% of their harvest. Using a stealth spacecraft secreted behind the Masonic Hall in Dravosburg, PA, he will collect his bounty and w More..
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bysubdude (27.62) 
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Hahahaha!
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByILovePickles (429.46) 
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Prove it then!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byfotoman4u2 (3430.20) 
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"and if he believes in transparency, he would release them." That with his other actions, and statements, how is his policies different than Obama's?
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bydog64 (430.96) 
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Very good question!
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByILovePickles (429.46) 
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@ILovePickles Which should also apply to the current resident of the corner office.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byaussite (1797.60) 
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@aussite He's released his taxes already.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycdlcrash (319.30) 
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@cdlcrash Really???
Your once again late to the discussion at hand so be a good lad and just continue trying to catch up.
In particular let me know when you get to the part about Obama's majority in Congress.
When you get that right then we'll talk.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byaussite (1797.60) 
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@aussite what do you need to know about it dummy?
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycdlcrash (319.30) 
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I didnt know Harry Reid had a LL account!
And btw u should care about elected officials pasts' and what their agendas actually are. Simply because i have yet to find a honest politician. Most are two faced, and yes, they should be properly vetted before assuming a position that directly affects you and your family.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByAhhyoou (278.10) 
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and the beat goes on
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byoutsidelooknn (1106.20) 
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I think its pretty dangerous to go making huge unsubstantiated claims and now people to get behind it. I hope people on the left dont go buying into these attacks because wouldnt that be the pot calling the kettle black......its like the birther movement and people saying its totally unsubstantiated but now follow the same line of attack.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByThe Grim (746.20) 
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@The Grim All it takes is one. Then Fox News air a piece on it and boom liberals
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byneutral_person (157.92) 
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Great comment.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByNepean109 (1014.90) 
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@coxy55 ---the puchline could have been better---
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByARNOLD-R-LANE (1025.98) 
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Oh! That was me who made that comment. Thanks for noticing.
The birth certificate flap questioned whether Obama's presidency was even constitutional. Meeting minimum constitutional requirements for office is a major issue and I cannot blame anybody who was concerned about it.
The President handled that matter poorly.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byjohn1054 (5128.44)

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@john1054 I'll second that. Because he let that fire burn, a large % of the electorate believes the Muslim storyline.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByAngriBanshee (527.90) 
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@AngriBanshee That and him going on camera to say that he was a muslim.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bykajidono (686.26)

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@AngriBanshee Which merely serves to demonstrate that a large % of the electorate are morons...
Posted Aug-5-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.12) hellgremlin Send Message
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Romney is not good for America
I have been following them, and Romney has a SHITLOAD of bad traits.
Many foreign enemies hate him, even foreign allies are hating on him from what he has said the past 2 weeks!
He is a joke, and he does not even have Vice President choice yet!
Romoney is 100% unprepared, and 100% has no plan besides trying to appeal the crowds where he visits, all so he can get a vote from them!
The only people that support him, and I've talked to many, are richer people who d More..
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byqwerty4242 (1192.60) qwerty4242 View Channel Send Message
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@qwerty4242 Yes idiot liberals always have to tack on accusations of racism. Because they're too stupid to do any better. How many black leaders have other non-black countries elected? None. But, you cling to that rubber crutch, it's all you can do.
This election will be won on economic issues. And to say Mitt isn't prepared, and Obama is, is a pathetic joke.
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByST0N3PONY (5036.32) 
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@ST0N3PONY ---indeed--the entire political establishment is a joke--left and right-- gop and dems--it's just about looking good--and buying votes---
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByARNOLD-R-LANE (1025.98) 
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@ARNOLD-R-LANE A good reason to be for small government. Subscribed to your channel by the way, hadn't seen it before. Beautiful dog. Pretty funny in the Hold My Paw video.
My pitbull Rocky was the biggest wuss dog I've ever seen. Would get beat up by my kitten playing to rough and clawing his nose. He would look at me with sad please-help-me eyes.
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByST0N3PONY (5036.32) 
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@ST0N3PONY --not just small government my friend---limited power, subservient government with few responsibilities--but the lawyers want to legislate--the basis of big government is the multi thousand page laws--people want something for free--so the politics of promising is a good way to get elected--we have overextended ourselves---i am afraid we must face the fact that wall steet--main street--and the political class---all need to have a fundamental rethink---
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByARNOLD-R-LANE (1025.98) 
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@ST0N3PONY---thank you mr. pony--can i call you that?---you are an edifice around here---
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByARNOLD-R-LANE (1025.98) 
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He was my last choice and I think he's a milquetoast RINO, but I'd take a girl scout over this current piece of shit.
And no, tell'em all to shove it up their collective asses.....Republicans and Dimowits alike.
In fact, tell'em you'll produce all the tax returns they can read as soon as you see Obama's REAL birth certificate AND his college transcripts.
Fuck'em all....
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByBogenschutze (190.02) Bogenschutze View Channel Send Message
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An assault on the American guy who wants to fix the economy?
Well shit Ron Paul is better right? But anything but the Mr Potato head anything but him!
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByTheMonkeyOnYourBack (124.70) 
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@TheMonkeyOnYourBack Yep cause that attitude worked so well in 2008. ANYTHING BUT A REPUBLICAN they cried. Hello OBAMA! With that attitude you will always be a slave to the special interests.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Byneutral_person (157.92) 
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@neutral_person I lost my beer
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByTheMonkeyOnYourBack (124.70) 
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Fuck! I lost my coffee!! Dmanit!
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByILovePickles (429.46) 
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@ILovePickles Ron Paul is the best leader of the free world. Maybe Romney taxes issue gets Ron the win?
Of course never right? But I can dream. I want the world back how it was before the evil interfered in it.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByTheMonkeyOnYourBack (124.70) 
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From my perspective... Me too..
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByILovePickles (429.46) 
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