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Added: Oct-7-2012 Occurred On: Oct-7-2012
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  • Did the Soviet Union have the most people die? Yes. Did they win the war? No. Were they important to the Allied war effort? Yes. Were they the lynchpin? Well, to the extent that Germany wasted much of its army trying to invade Russia, yes. To the extent that this stand was made possible with the ample supply of vehicles, planes, and weapons from America, Britain, and Canada, no.

    The Soviets were not able to produce enough tanks, planes, and artillery units to combat the Germans. The U. More..

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    • @buzzardist Fair points and well made...

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    • @buzzardist

      That's perhaps the most sensed comment on the subject ever made on LL. I can usually nail down something when people naively talk about it but in this case there isn't any fault anywhere. Thanks for that intelligent comment.

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    • @buzzardist

      A very educated comment, nicely put. To make it short: Winning WWII was a joint effort of all the allied nations. At one point or another during the war, each of them made an effort to continue fighting and to ultimately win the war.

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    • @buzzardist Well reasoned comment.

      Your excellent comment highlights a very different picture and indeed set of values that this "historian" is attempting to validate (re-write).

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    • @buzzardist thanks for the post, a multitude of efforts on behalf of everyone involved to say the least

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  • I love revisionist history.

    The Soviet Union would have done no such thing.

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  • Did you forget about the part of WWII that was fought in the Pacific? That was largely a naval war and the Japanese kicked the living shit out of the Russian navy. The Russians cold not have possibly defeated the Germans AND the Japanese "alone".

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  • Always a hot one, as everyone likes to lay claim to 'winning' the war....

    Don't think you could say the Soviets would have won alone...however its highly unlikely the Allies would have won the war without 70 plus % of the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front

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    • The title is misleading. I think he claims the Soviets could have beaten Nazi Germany alone. Possible, with supplies from the west, and a lot more time. But when Japan entered the war, the Soviets didn't even fight until the US and Australia (and others) almost had them beat back.

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  • A Russian state-sponsored "news" channel saying absurdly unrealistic positive things about themselves.

    The very definition of self serving.

    The Nazi's were literally 18 miles away from Moscow and they were fighting the entire world on like 3 fronts.

    Russia would be owned by GER if we never showed up.

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    • @Martyr_Machine
      And when did we show up exactly? In 1944 D day? When the soviet union won all the major battles and was already pushing the nazis back into Germany?

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    • @Martyr_Machine

      You can say whatever you want but the "allies" only joined when it was clear Russia was winning the war... and that it was a few months away form creating a nuke.

      Besides my hometown St Petersburg stood under German siege for 2.5 years and never let Germans pass. And thats happened 400miles away from Moscow.

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    • @Myrmidon Only because the russians were attacked by Germany first.Up until then they had agreed to divy up Europe between themselves.LOl what a crock.

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    • @Bleys Thats ridiculously incorrect, we joined the war in early '42 and fought in North Africa which was vital before invading Europe and the turning point of the war for Germany was the battle of Stalingrad which happened in '43 so we entered the war long before that. Don't forget we also fought the war against Japan almost single handedly. Britain had been fighting against Germany since before the Soviet Union had entered the war themselves.

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    • @The Grim Japan 'singlehandedly'? Don't mention that to the British and Empire forces fighting the main Japanese land armies in South Asia from 1942-45

      The Americans did win the naval war against the Japanese and were able to pulverise the Japanese mainland into submission

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  • Revisionist history to reminice about the good old days of Communist totalitarionism. Any wonder this is on RT, the official channel of the KGB repeat President of "Russia", Vladimir Putin?

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  • Wow, a new low for RT news.

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  • I don't think the US could've won WWII without the USSR nor the USSR could've won without the US.

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  • Russia was an ally of Germany in 1939.

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  • Russia lost so many people because they're stupid. Rather than take cover from incoming fire they would walk right into it like zombies.


    And the dumb cunt who said most Americans think we [USA] won WWII single handedly is a whore. We all know it took the combined forces of ALL the Allies to beat Nazi Germany....just more bullshit from RT trying to make America look bad.

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    • @MadMike740
      ROFL :) US did nothing until it was clear Russia was winning the war and on top of that nuking Japan was completely unnecessary. US contribution to WWII was minimal.

      That aside US is yet to win a single foreign war in history.

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    • @Bleys

      Study history you fucking traitor.

      The US dropped the bomb to minimize casualties on both sides. The Japanese population would have fought to the death with every last citizen in their country. Dropping the bomb saved lives in the long run.


      If you hate your country and despise the military as much as all your posts indicate why don't you just immigrate to Canada or Mexico...you're a disgrace to American society.

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  • This guy is standing up for a villain with more blood on his hands even than Hitler.

    Sure, the Soviets carried a big load. But there is zero chance they could have won on their own. And too bad they weren't very much better than the Nazis. In fact, I'm not sure they were any better than the Nazis at all.

    Also, they were involved in exactly one front and pretended the Japanese didn't exist until after the atom bombs were detonated.

    Here's a question: would the war have taken place at all if th More..

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    • @john1054 Many a Nazi claimed they learned their trade and methods from the Bolsheviks...even the Herr Flick Gestapo look (black leather trench coate) comes from the Soviets...

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    • @john1054

      That is a ridiculous statement. How can you say they were not better than the Nazis? Have you a slightest idea of what the Nazis did in the East? Give me a break.

      You cannot judge the soviet "frontoviks" who fought bravely during the war only because of the leader they had. The Germans got what they deserved after what they did in the USSR. Pretty much like what the Americans did to the Japanese because of what they did in Pearl Harbour.

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    • @john1054

      Also, they were involved in exactly one front and pretended the Japanese didn't exist until after the atom bombs were detonated

      Absolutely not true.

      Contrary to Britain, and later the USA (as before Pearl Harbor the "it's none of our business" attitude prevailed in Nazi-friendly USA) the Soviets were never aggressed by Japan and therefore had no justification to go to war against them.

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    • @Valerie2007

      France, Britain, and the U.S. had already ceded half of Europe to Soviet dominance, including territory that had been liberated by Western troops. The atomic bombs were about sparing American casualties, not keeping the Soviets out.

      After the war, guess which country kept the Japanese territory it had occupied, turning it into a conquest rather than a liberation?

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    • @mcgus

      Have you the slightest idea what the Soviet regime did to the Russian people themselves?

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  • Straight out of 1984 news-speak!!!

    What a hell of a contradiction to state that Stalin was a totalitarian dictator and then to claim, that "he inspired confidence". And the word "inspired" is double speak for co-ercion, because if any of the 27 million killed, were volunteers, then Stalin would never had been a totalitarian dictator in the first instance. Furthermore, check out the background.
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  • About Stalin and his Ministry for Internal Affairs (NKVD)

    "American factory workers at the Soviet Ford GAZ plant, suspected by Stalin of being 'poisoned' by Western influences, were dragged off with the others to Lubyanka by the NKVD in the very same Ford Model A cars they had helped build, where they were tortured; nearly all were executed or died in labor camps. Many of the slain Americans were dumped in the mass grave at Yuzhnoye Butovo District near Moscow."

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  • World war 2 was fought and won on the eastern front. Everything else was a side show.

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  • Not often you can find me shouting at my computer.

    Stalin was responsible for 80% of the soviet deaths during WW11

    This Paddy crunt is an ignorant fascist spud munching iijit.

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  • What a load of bullocks.
    He states that Stalin held the country together in the first few months of the war ! What held the USSR together was distance, logistics and thrown-away lives. Stalin's incompetence to wage war was demonstrated amply in the first few months.

    As for winning the war without the rest of the allies - lol. If Hitler didn't have to garrison Western Europe or fight a war in North Africa and southern Europe, he would have had ample material, men and time to conquer the USSR.

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  • lets not forget the soviets all most let themselves be taken over Stalin should have seen threw Hitler and never singed the nazi-soviet pact but then again Stalin's the same guy who made his people suffer after world war 2

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  • Yeah,how many of those who died fighting,were killed by the soviets themselves.This is pure propaganda.That they were allies of the Germans at first.Only shows what a bunch of wishful thinking this kind of propaganda is.LOL Get real.

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  • Let me guess who said that ummm... Stalin people did.

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  • I would fuck the reporter but russia wouldnt have fucked the germans by themselves.

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