A Reality Check on a Reality Check
For years, Canadians have feared the American health care system; now Americans are being told to fear ours.
By Julie Mason
July 20, 2009 -- I'm a secret CNN fan. I just can't get enough of those talking heads with their gleaming teeth, wet-look lipstick and perfect coiffures. Even at 4 a.m., some gorgeous thing with flawless makeup (men and women) will be gushing about important affairs of state like Michael Jackson or that philandering governor from South Carolina.
Every once in a while, CNN will notice there's a country north of the 49th parallel that has some weird little customs, like parliamentary democracy or gun control. They then venture forth to do in-depth analysis of our quaint habits for the benefit of the enlightened viewers of, let's say, Kentucky.
Kentucky is to blame for the latest CNN investigation of Canada -- a "Reality Check" on Canada's health care. It seems the state -- known for fried chicken and racehorses -- is also home to Senator Mitch McConnell, a high-ranking Republican of impeccable conservative credentials. Senator McConnell does not like President Barack Obama's plan to reform health care, and he's decided to use Canada as a weapon to help him fight the battle.
As CNN reported, McConnell recently made a speech to the Senate referring to the "bureaucrats who run Canada's health care system" and using the Kingston General Hospital as an example of the horror of Canada's health care. KGH supposedly had waits of 340 days for knee replacement and 196 days for hip replacement. McConnell also fussed that Ontario's wait time for breast cancer surgery is three months. CNN did interview Dr. David Zelt, KGH's chief of staff, who pointed out the wait times are actually 91 days for hip replacement, 109 days for knees, and that these aren't the average wait times, but the time that nine out of 10 people have had the procedure. Many have them done much faster. For breast cancer surgery, the wait time at KGH is 23 days, across Ontario it's 34 days.
Both CNN and McConnell made a big deal out of Shona Holmes, an Ontario woman who claims she was forced by Ontario's health system to go to the United States for life-saving surgery for a brain tumour. She claims that in 2005 delays in access to treatment at home made it necessary to go to the Mayo Clinic in Arizona and pay $97,000 for her care.
In 2007, Holmes was part of a court case brought by the Canadian Constitution Foundation against the government of Ontario. The case challenges Ontario's "government-run monopolistic" health system that prohibits the sale of private health care and private health insurance for essential health services. It is still before the courts.
Holmes has become the darling of conservatives and the stop-public-health-care movement in the United States. She's testified before Congress, been on Fox TV as well as CNN, and her story is retold on hundreds of right wing blogs. She's now doing a nasty TV ad for Patients United Now, a Republican-led group opposed to Obama's reforms. You can see the ad at http://www.patientsunitednow.com. The group is spending almost $2 million on it to target politicians in Washington.
For a person living with cancer, the idea that someone's care could be unreasonably delayed is truly scary. It also doesn't reflect the experience I've had or the experiences that have been shared with me by so many other patients. Even CNN interviewed Doug Wright, a more typical patient in Toronto who is receiving very speedy treatment for his cancer.
Still, I found Holmes tale both compelling and troubling. So I decided to check a little further. On the Mayo Clinic's website, Shona Holmes is a success story. But it's somewhat different story than all the headlines might have implied. Holmes' "brain tumour" was actually a Rathke's Cleft Cyst on her pituitary gland. To quote an American source, the John Wayne Cancer Center, "Rathke's Cleft Cysts are not true tumors or neoplasms; instead they are benign cysts."
There's no doubt Holmes had a problem that needed treatment, and she was given appointments with the appropriate specialists in Ontario. She chose not to wait the few months to see them. But it's a far cry from the life-or-death picture portrayed by Holmes on the TV ads or by McConnell in his attacks.
In Senator McConnell's home state of Kentucky, one out of three people under age 65 do not have any health insurance. They don't have to worry about wait times for hip or knee replacement or cancer surgery -- they can't get care. The media household income in Kentucky is $37,186 -- not quite enough for the $97,000 bill at the Mayo Clinic. CNN didn't mention that in its "Reality Check."
As the debate on health care reform heats up the United States, it seems certain that Canada's public health care system will be used, or more accurately misused, in the battle for hearts and minds. For years, Canadians have feared the American health care system; now Americans are being told to fear ours.
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I have seen those commercials with that Shona Holmes.
It is nice to know that she was full of shit. My experience with the Canadian health system has been great.
Posted Jul-21-2009 BySteve677 (409.76) 
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I hear ya . They took care of the wifes cancer and put me back together from some bad injuries a few times . I can't understand where all this fear mongering hype came from .
No doubt we will hear lots of bs from some folks soon on how we're fucked . But hey I actually use this system so maybe I know something .
Posted Jul-21-2009 Byconcretehead01 (2839.28) concretehead01 View Channel Send Message
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I agree 100%
no complaints from this Canadian..
Posted Jul-21-2009 Byjamie25 (1342.46) 
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Yea, well I've never needed no major surjury, just a dislocated shoulder,ear infection,sick oh and an ulser at 23 but nothing huge ..never had no problems with our health care. yea their is wait times but a few hours and have never heard anyone complain about our system...other then the last few weeks on cnn. : )
Posted Jul-22-2009 Byjamie25 (1342.46) 
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I wonder how much Shona is paid by the American health theives... Errr, I mean health insurance agencies.
Posted Jul-21-2009 ByCQMS (263.20) 
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I recently posted a series about the US health care, called;
"USA The Failing Health Care System - Sick around America"
It's not pretty and I dare say many Americans will say it isn't true. but these are real life stories of people in the US that their health care system failed.
Here is part 6/6 with links to all the other parts.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b51_1248100812
The American insurance health care lobby are doing pretty much the same defamation job on the UK National H More..
Posted Jul-21-2009 By24038462 (2049.04) 
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Which means TAXPAYERS ate the bill. Health care in a socialised system isn't 'free'. The taxpayers foot the bill- Why in hell should my tax dollars got to pay for medical procedures for people i don't even know?
Posted Jul-31-2009 ByToadFace (14.16) ToadFace View Channel Send Message
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I had a compound fracture to my Femur. I was in surgery within an hour.
Posted Jul-21-2009 ByYourCDNHero (56.72) 
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I dunno, I never have any problems, I neat cancer twice, had a knee replacement, and if I go to emerg and need urgent care I'm in right away... besides Canadians WANT their healthcare system... and a ton of yanks sneak up here for it too.
Posted Jul-21-2009 Bysteveaustin1971 (377.72) steveaustin1971 View Channel Send Message
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I knew this was bullshit before seeing this........
republicans are hypocrites lying moron, they make a living of lying to their own people.
Posted Jul-21-2009 ByDaveyjones (616.32) 
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Sure on the Republican lie the Democrates are the Great Saviors except for:
Bill Clinton
William Jefferson Clinton,
Nancy Peloci,
etc
etc
etc.
Posted Jul-21-2009 Bysftech (106.62) 
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My friend had a gland cancer, the day the doctors found out, they transferred him to an other hospital. He saw three doctors and got is first treatment the day after.
Posted Jul-22-2009 Bygroscon (13.32) 
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The American health care system is superior to the socialist crap called health care in canada.
Posted Jul-31-2009 ByToadFace (14.16) ToadFace View Channel Send Message
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Why all the news about how horrifying health care is in Canada and the UK ? We have our own health care nightmares and rationed care but don%u2019t hear enough about that, all they want to holler is Obama is going to kill granny. The status quo killed my father. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 In Tennessee and Virginia, profit care comes way ahead of patient care.
Posted Aug-3-2009 Bytmullins (10.04) 
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Canadians excuse Toadface the redneck...he's been sick lately and isnt himself.He needs some good ol fashion Canadian medical help.Or simply change his brand of medical marijuana.for that golfball size
American tumor
Posted Oct-21-2009 Byharleypiper (48.06) harleypiper View Channel Send Message
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We had better wake up, my friends. There are at least three inevitable results of this Democrat grab for power:
Higher taxes and costs for everyone,
Rationing of health care
A decrease in the quality of our health care
Better fight this now - once they get the power you won't have a prayer.
Posted Jul-21-2009 Byjpeterman57 (589.28) 
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A decrease in the quality of healthcare - are you serious?
The United states ranks far behind Canada in almost every category in every comparative study done that I have seen, but never mind that lets just look at life expectancy and the number of patients who die due to mistakes by doctors(malpractice rates) - Canada ranks better in both categories than the U.S.
The U.S has higher malpractice rates than most of it's equally developed counterparts who have universal healthcare systems, and tha More..
Posted Jul-21-2009 ByMacky_J (234.60) 
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