Come on You Sceptics
A symptom of brainwashing is that those inflicted don’t actually know that they have been.
Hopefully a shot of science will wake you from your slumber.
Scientific arguments only please.
But of course, those who just want to learn something are most welcome to ask some inquisitive questions, and I’ll do my best to answer.
Added: Jan-30-2012 Occurred On: Jan-30-2012
By: Clivenio
In: Science and Technology
Tags: Science
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By: Clivenio
In: Science and Technology
Tags: Science
Marked as: approved
Views: 1307 | Comments: 25 | Votes: 1 | Favorites: 1 | Shared: 0 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 1
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What is the baseline? 18 - 33K..? The earth is not a black body, it's more gray. Then there is albedo and it's spinning. How about impact of changes in solar UV on the troposphere by indirect means via changes in stratospheric heating? The average atmospheric GE, according to satellite observations, is between 157 and 161 W/m^2. I'm going to assume this model like most treat the earth with an infinitely thick atmosphere with no convection, radiative heat transfer through it with no evaporation, More..
Posted Jan-31-2012 Byflashj2 (734.70) 
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@Clivenio I agree.
Posted Jan-31-2012 Byflashj2 (734.70) 
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you talk so smart but spell so stupid im confused.
Posted Jan-30-2012 Bypsinned (438.10) 
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@psinned Just a piece of useless trivia, but Albert Einstein was a horrible speller. :-)
Posted Jan-30-2012 Byivojasek (173.06) 
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@ivojasek and he couldn't drive.
Posted Jan-30-2012 ByTheBlueLion (395.90) 
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@TheBlueLion But yet he had a great understanding of physics. go figure. :-)
Posted Jan-30-2012 Byivojasek (173.06) 
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@ivojasektan
id idit know that.
Posted Jan-30-2012 Bypsinned (438.10) 
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@psinned Something is wrong with your spell-czech. :-)
Posted Jan-30-2012 Byivojasek (173.06) 
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Nice info, but you can hardly get most people to understand the earth is older than 10,000 years old. I expect mostly low-brow criticism of this data.
Posted Jan-30-2012 ByTheBlueLion (395.90) 
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boring
Posted Jan-31-2012 Bytag261 (65.80) 
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Scientific argument, alright, he's voice is tiring!
Posted Jan-31-2012 ByDickDastardly (63.10) 
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Your video implies that the match between the model you use and satellite observations are proof of the model. A model matching real data is no proof of the model - a match is a necessary condition but not a sufficient condition.
The actual proof of a model is its predictive ability - in particular it must predict data not yet obtained - i.e. reasonably close predictions of temperature in the future must be achievable, not the silly and anti-scientific hind-cast matching that climatologists i More..
Posted Jan-31-2012 ByCadae (145.38) 
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@Clivenio
I agree that the 'greenhouse' effect exists, but its significance and contribution to Earth's climate and temperature is highly doubtful.
To cut to the chase and check its significance we must do what all good science does - compare predictions made by the theory (i.e. your CO2 presentation) against actual data.
CO2 has been increasing over the last few decades, particularly in the last decade - yet temperatures have NOT increased significantly over the last decade, and the models ha More..
Posted Jan-31-2012 ByCadae (145.38) 
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@Clivenio PDO flipped in 2008 to a cool phase and the AMO might do the same in a few years.. I'm interested what Solar Cycle 25 does if anything.. Interesting times ahead for climate science.
Posted Jan-31-2012 Byflashj2 (734.70) 
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@Clivenio
So the current excuses for failure of the claimed impact of CO2 and associated climate models is that other factors have swamped the effects of CO2.
That is simply grasping at straws - especially considering that the majority of the warming we've seen to date is easily explicable via those same factors and cycles that are being cited for the current lack of warming !
The problem is that with a system as complex as the Earth's and an economic impact as great as carbon mitigation, you'v More..
Posted Feb-1-2012 ByCadae (145.38) 
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Can someone get this guy to make a cheap electric car/pod?
Please explain the feedback mechanism of hydrogen and where the hydrogen comes from in the atmosphere.
thanks
Posted Jan-31-2012 ByOwenHiggins (1659.54) OwenHiggins View Channel Send Message
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@Clivenio so the hydrogen doesn't come from the sun? am i looking at data thats different to everyone else...
Hydrogen is the building blocks.
Its called organic chemistry. It comes out of stars.
thats my picture
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