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BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Kabul says the crash was a significant loss for the international mission A US helicopter carrying US and Afghan special forces has crashed in Afghanistan, killing 38 people, officials in Kabul say. Reports say the Chinook helicopter was shot down by the Taliban.
US sources say most of the 31 Americans who died were from the Navy Seal unit which killed Osama Bin Laden, but are "unlikely" to be the same personnel.
The US has not confirmed the number of dead, which would be the largest single US loss of life in the Afghan conflict.
The Chinook went down overnight in Wardak province, said a statement from President Hamid Karzai's office, giving the numbers of those killed.
It was returning from an operation against the Taliban in which eight insurgents are believed to have been killed.
A senior official of President Barack Obama's administration said the helicopter was apparently shot down, Associated Press news agency said.
An official with the Nato-led coalition in Afghanistan told the New York Times the helicopter was shot down with a rocket-propelled grenade
Nato's worst Afghan moments
- 6 April 2005 - Chinook crash in Ghazni province kills 15 US soldiers and three civilian contractors
- 28 June 2005 - 16 US troops killed when Taliban bring down Chinook in Kunar province
- 16 August 2005 - 17 Spanish soldiers die when Cougar helicopter crashes near Herat
- 5 May 2006 - 10 US soldiers die after Chinook crashes east of Kabul
- 2 Sept 2006 - 14 UK personnel killed when RAF Nimrod explodes following mid-air refuelling
- 18 August 2008 - 10 French soldiers killed in Taliban ambush east of Kabul
- 6 August 2011 - 31 US special forces and seven Afghan soldiers killed in Chinook crash
"The president of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan expresses his sympathy and deep condolences to US President Barack Obama and the family of the victims," the statement from President Karzai said. President Obama, too, issued a statement paying tribute to the Americans and Afghans who died in the crash.
"We will draw inspiration from their lives, and continue the work of securing our country and standing up for the values that they embodied. We also mourn the Afghans who died alongside our troops in pursuit of a more peaceful and hopeful future for their country," the statement said.
The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force has confirmed the helicopter crash but has not released details of casualties or the cause.
Reports say more than 20 of the US dead were Navy Seals.
A US military source has confirmed to the BBC that they were from Seal Team Six - the same unit which killed Bin Laden in Pakistan in May.
Who are the Navy Seals?
- 2,500 US Navy special forces
- They carry out Sea, Air and Land operations, hence their name
- Origins lie in World War II
- Involved in Vietnam, Panama, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen
- Team Six is elite group officially known as the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, or Devgru
- Team Six based near Virginia Beach, members usually have five years of experience, part of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC )
Several Air Force personnel, a dog and his handler, a civilian interpreter, and the helicopter crew were also on board, AP reports.
Nato said it was mounting an operation to recover the helicopter and find out why it crashed. It said there had been "enemy activity in the area" where it went down.
A Taliban spokesman said insurgents had brought down the helicopter with a rocket after US and Afghan troops attacked a house in the Sayd Abad district of Wardak where insurgents were meeting late on Friday, Associated Press said.
Sayd Abad, near the province of Kabul, is known to have a strong Taliban presence.
A Wardak government spokesman quoted by AFP news agency agreed with this, saying the helicopter was hit as it was taking off.
A local resident told the BBC Pashto service a rocket hit the helicopter.
"What we saw was that when we were having our pre-dawn [Ramadan] meal, Americans landed some soldiers for an early raid," said Mohammad Wali Wardag.
"This other helicopter also came for the raid. We were outside our rooms on a veranda and saw this helicopter flying very low, it was hit by a rocket and it was on fire. It started coming down and crashed just away from our home close to the river."
There are currently about 140,000 foreign troops - about 100,000 of them American - in Afghanistan, fighting the Taliban insurgency and training local troops to take over security.
All foreign combat forces are due to leave Afghanistan by the end of 2014 and some troop withdrawals have already taken place.
Nato has begun the process of handing over control of security in some areas to local forces, with Bamiyan becoming the first province to pass to Afghan control in mid-July.
An increase in US troop numbers last year has had some success combating the Taliban in the south of Afghanistan, but attacks in the north, which was previously relatively quiet, have picked up in recent months.
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GWB must be pissed when soldiers does not return from duty! More guys that won't be paying for his own rich tax cuts after coming home from a totally irrelevant war.
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bynomadlife (113.80) nomadlife View Channel Send Message
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It's the guys that shot OBL. Seal Team six.
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bybuttkracken (659.58) buttkracken View Channel Send Message
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@TommyBeast
at anyrate,
you can thank the media for shining a warship like searchlight on the seal family....
yeah,
do you think the ISI will allow the pak media to sensationalize how the setup and ambush went down
oh, hell NO ! there is only freedom to repress in pakistan.
I call ISI setup and ambush, jmo.
hope the weapons used are traceable to a source.
ya know?
but I'm sure the truth shoudn't be revealed. Afterall, knowledge is power and we are gonna feed these snakes we call "friends& More..
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByAiredale (2611.46) 
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If this is not propaganda, God bless those troops. RIP
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bychieb (188.32) chieb View Channel Send Message
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It's hard to see what may be the real stories sometimes. For starters, Obama congratulation the Osama killing troops at Ft Campbell?... As far as I know that's a long way from SEAL country. Seal's getting way too much air time that what would seem secret squirrel operations? That's weird and disturbing. Any real air defense capability at night coupled with hitting such a select target can imply allot of really bad things. I don't doubt that real heros went down that night, brave men who's s More..
Posted Aug-7-2011 Byverykron (115.76) 
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dont see the bigger picture yet, but no single piece of evidence released to the public so far by mainstream media. Official explaination ISAF doesnt comment on operations involving special forces, the media expects more information to be released some point in the future.
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bydyus (47.10) 
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@dyus what kind of evidences would you like to see ?
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByOthman (285.44) 
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a crash site or survivors would help.. must be unlucky to loose all 30+ members from a low flying helicopter
http://www.mediflight.com.au/media/files/1455.pdf
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bydyus (47.10) 
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@dyus but a crash site is the evidence of...a crash, don't you want to see the 38 bodies as well ?
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByOthman (285.44) 
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are you saying karzais word is proof enough?
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bydyus (47.10) 
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To the Taliban, revenge is sweet, especially when these Seals had just attacked one of their post.. Wonder where they got their anti-air weapon from. Recall US used to supply them weapons to fight the Russian, so am not surprise if Some Russian generals have long memory.
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bysok8888 (704.14) 
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so thay are sayin a chinok is shot down when goin home at (night) with a (RPG) ?? whats the chanse of a chinok flyin at night movin at a good pace to get home after a op to get shot down with a rpg ? thay are not good with it in the day never mind the night ...fishy
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bytitanzj (87.78) titanzj View Channel Send Message
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Yes, and the helicopter was flying low.. try to hit that with a unguided RPG... Got about 2 secs to aim and fire before it disappears behind a tree or hill.. something just doesnt seem right
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bydyus (47.10) 
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@titanzj who said it was night ?
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByOthman (285.44) 
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@Othman
Hamid Karzai
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bydyus (47.10) 
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@dyus "What we saw was that when we were having our pre-dawn [Ramadan] meal"
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByOthman (285.44) 
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Hope the investigation reveals who sold whatever it was that knocked down the chinook.
ISI setup imo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzaNWO6gufA&feature=related
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByAiredale (2611.46) 
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this was a set up. hussein obama sent word to the taliban to have them shot down as reparations for "killing" bin laden.
Posted Aug-7-2011 ByAmusing (5213.88) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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"The president of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan"
lol
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByOthman (285.44) 
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My son flew on chinooks in Afghan as a gunner.He Was infantry,but the R.A.F where undermaned,and the army asked if anybody would join for the 6month tour.He said they flew at tree top level whenever they could,and the pilots flew like mad men,to avoid rocket propelled grenades.He said after one trip,the pilot told the ground guys to check the chinook out,as he had felt vibrations on the pedals.As they walked away,one of the rotor blades fell off!
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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wtf
why would people give you a thumbs down on mentioning the reality checks of daily life over there?
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByAiredale (2611.46) 
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@Airedale Trolls or muslims,or both lol.
Posted Aug-7-2011 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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wow way too long to read. i didn't bother.
Posted Aug-6-2011 Byfobfob77 (14246.52) 
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Damn! Seems like a bad thing to do is get on a Chinook.
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByHollrobb (536.16)

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You will never know the truth. I read the stealth helicopter that was in OBL raid that blew up actually had people on board. No one got hurt of course.
Posted Aug-6-2011 Bybuttkracken (659.58) buttkracken View Channel Send Message
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@buttkracken The chopper that went down over the OBL compound fell in it's own wash due to the high walls of the compound redirecting the wash back up and around the chopper. It was under power when it went down and came down at a very slow pace. It didn't blow up as a result of the landing but as a result of sabotage after the crash to prevent the technology from falling into paki hands.
Posted Aug-6-2011 ByJamesRWII (427.96) 
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