
Posted on January 4, 2012 at 9:03pm by Becket Adams via The Blaze
Although it happened back in September, 2011, it appears many American taxpayers are unaware that General Motors struck a deal in Shanghai wherein the company has agreed to develop an electric vehicle (EV) platform with its longtime Chinese partner SAIC.
What else was included in this deal? GM has agreed to effectively move all future EV development to China. It could also mean that production of the vehicle itself will be moved overseas.
The agreement is the result of the Chinese government coercing foreign automakers into giving Chinese companies the EV technology they lack, according to an Associated Press report. Unsurprisingly, some U.S. lawmakers have voiced concerns that the deal is little more than a “shake down” from the Chinese to get GM’s Volt secrets. GM has denied reports that it will hand over the intellectual property underlying the Volt.
GM Vice Chairman Steve Girsky, in a conference call from Shanghai, said that neither SAIC nor the Chinese government have demanded Volt technology but that any future EV developments would, of course, draw on GM’s Volt “experience and technology,” according to a USA Todayreport first published in September, 2011.
Under the deal, SAIC and GM will equally share the cost of developing a new all-electric vehicle, Girsky said.
As per the arrangement, GM started exporting Michigan-made Volts to China. However, it is highly unlikely that GM will sell many of the unsuccessful vehicles.
“The Chinese government is pushing electrics with a subsidy that amounts to about $19,000 per car — but only if the car is made in China. No imports allowed,” writes Chris Woodyard of USA Today. “There also are tariffs on cars imported to China, which lawmakers argue are unfair and may violate world trade rules.”
But, as mentioned in the above, what has some people truly upset is the fact that Girsky hinted that the Volt could eventually be built in China.
“If we localize, eventually it won’t have a tariff and it will get the subsidy. We have made no decision on if, when or where we build Volt in the future,” Girsky said.
USA Today further explained China’s quest for EV technology:
The push for more advanced technology reflects China’s frustrations with its continued weakness in automotive technology, analysts say. After 25 years of auto joint ventures that require local partners to hold at least a 50 percent stake, domestic automakers still lag behind global rivals in automotive engineering.
“China is not a technology leader in virtually any industry. The country has developed around low-cost production,” said Bill Russo of consultancy Synergistics. “This is the irony, that the largest and biggest growth market has relatively weak domestic manufacturers.”
It was because of the sudden growth in Chinese demand and faltering sales in the recession-stricken West that China was able to surpass the U.S. as the largest car market in 2009. Just this year, sales of passenger vehicles, excluding large buses, jumped by a third to 13.7 million vehicles.
Two final thoughts: First, considering that all of GM’s EV development was financed with taxpayer dollars, it seems perfectly reasonable that many people are upset with the car manufacturer. On the other hand, given what appears to be GM’s failure to develop a successful, affordable andstable EV, one might feel compelled to say of the Shanghai deal, “They can have it.”
Second, given the fact that Federal government helped itself to millions and millions of taxpayer dollars under the pretense that it was going to combat high unemployment by creating “green jobs,” it would seem that moving research and development (and possibly manufacturing) overseas is slightly, well, counterproductive.
(h/t Weasel Zippers)
[Editor's note: Although the USA Today article dates back to September, it is just now starting to catch on in the blogosphere. Since nothing has changed in the agreement between GM and SAIC, The Blaze found the story both relevant and necessary to report.]
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More American jobs to China. The only thing you can do is not to buy their products.
Posted Jan-5-2012 ByStackOverflow (249.92) 
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13.7 million cars in one year!
If the average car cost were a low estimate of 15G each......my head hurts.
Fuck GM!
Posted Jan-5-2012 Bymytwocents (2365.86) 
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@vtxphantom how is Obama a traitor? they told him they would have to lay off people if they werent bailed out.. its more like taking the people hostage and obama meeting the ransom and they shoot the people anyway. What obama didnt know was they were going to do it anyway..
cant you get it through your thick skull, we have massive unemployment, people would be happy to just have a job yet GM chooses China over US because we are too expensive? how cheap do they need it? do the people need to be More..
Posted Jan-5-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1019.40) 
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You think the volt is having battery problems now, wait until they start making the batteries in China.
Posted Jan-5-2012 ByPlox (674.62) 
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@Plox interesting that all the heavy metals are in china and they have slowed production
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byallank (323.20) allank View Channel Send Message
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yep, we americans want everything dirt cheap, but we also want to be paid 55 dollars an hour to work in some factory. you can't have both unless you move jobs overseas.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byuschairforcesgt (544.30) 
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@uschairforcesgt
*nods* The logic of most Americans has been slowly eaten away by many organizations.
Hard to stay in business when you sell a product for Chinese prices, but all the employees insist on making 150k a year when you include benefits, perks, wages, insurance, etc.
Oh that's right Profits are evil. The the business owner should make even less than the workers I suppose. He should be thankful the employees make his goods for the rest to buy at cheap prices.
I don't think i More..
Posted Jan-5-2012 ByLimitedTime (212.60) 
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@uschairforcesgt - thing is, the take-home pay of the average UAW - after Union fees and pensions are taken out - is around $17 to $20 per hour. Workers in Kentucky and Tennessee making Hondas and Toyotas make about the same amount without the deductions.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byviennachoirboy (193.02) viennachoirboy View Channel Send Message
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@viennachoirboy what is it after you add the pension and union fees back in? that is their income.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byuschairforcesgt (544.30) 
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@viennachoirboy i just looked it up.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/auto-worker-salaries/
$75 per hour all things considered.
im not swearing by it, it is just what i found.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byuschairforcesgt (544.30) 
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@bernaky - please explain.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byviennachoirboy (193.02) viennachoirboy View Channel Send Message
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See Corporations tell the government they will have to lay off millions of workers unless they are bailed out.. Our government complies and the corporations screw the people anyway, and who do the people blame.. the government?
win win for corporations..
loose loose for the people and government
its time we take back control
I fail to see how corporations are hurt in any of this
Posted Jan-5-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1019.40) 
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I swear to never purchase a vehicle from a company that got bailed out. That, of course, includes Government Motors.
Posted Jan-5-2012 ByStrelok (101.90) 
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@Strelok what about FORD who refused the bailout but had it forced on them. I love their new cars (i work on every type for a living) They seem reliable and well built.
Posted Jan-5-2012 ByAariss (383.12) 
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@Aariss Ford is the only company I will buy a car or truck from. I used to be a Chevy guy (still have an older non-govt Camaro).
Posted Jan-6-2012 ByMERCILESS (696.96) 
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@Aariss
Yea, I think I'd consider buying a Ford. I still say that a company that accepts government bailouts is dishonorable, and they will be absent of my support. Of course, the government that bails-out is even more dishonorable.
Posted Jan-7-2012 ByStrelok (101.90) 
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OMG=Obama Must Go
Posted Jan-5-2012 Bymuhamedtheone (48.70) 
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Seriously? Wow, you and I bail out GM with the understanding they would keep jobs here in the US. Now they are going to send those same jobs over to China, and then ship and sell the cars back over here.
The truth is china wants the owners of GM, Again you and me, to help them build their economy. So in reality we saved a company so they could hire the Chinese to make our cars.
Well Fuck bearass yomomma for screwing us again.
Posted Jan-5-2012 ByKmanbay (689.36) Kmanbay View Channel Send Message
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Very disheartening to read.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byguitarherofail (7.00) 
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Same in Canada: locomotive factory gets big tax break from gov't then 1%ers at Caterpiller Corporation demand union slash salaries by 50%. Leads to strike and corporate bastards' plans to move factory. Wake up, people. Corporations hate and abuse people.
Posted Jan-5-2012 ByNepean109 (1014.90) 
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Now theres a surprise. GOOD JOB OBUNGA!
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byelmerfudd13 (2100.50)

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@elmerfudd13 - don't blame Obama - blame the Capitalist Executives at GM. they are following the money.
Look this story up: Major corporations in the US make more money from lobbying the GOP congress than they do from R&D. No kidding! Look it up!
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byviennachoirboy (193.02) viennachoirboy View Channel Send Message
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That just shows you where there loyalties lie.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Bytruebrit49 (271.72) 
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@truebrit49 - very true. These are the people - the GM executive - the GOP is defending. They are the "1%", the "job creators". This is "Trickle Down" economics in all it's glory.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byviennachoirboy (193.02) viennachoirboy View Channel Send Message
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“The Chinese government is pushing electrics with a subsidy that amounts to about $19,000 per car"
China is smart.
"but only if the car is made in China."
Very smart.
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The same manufacturing offset has been done for years in aviation between Boeing and several Asian countries, especially China and Japan. Good for the short term and disastrous for the long term.
Posted Jan-5-2012 Byjoe prole (1637.30) 
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