Albert Einstein once said," whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." Recently I have been posting topics on 9/11 not to influence people but to point out there lies. Most Ct's rely on half truths and suck people into their realm of believing. Just Google 9/11 and see all the conspiracy sites that are listed there. No wonder people think this was a false flag operation after looking at these sites. But if you dig deeper, you find that these sites are loaded with misinforamtion and contradicting accounts. We will look at these one at a time to demonstrate the selective thinking of CT's.
Edna Cintron:
She comes up in many topics of conversation to prove that the fires werent hot enough to collapse the towers. She is seen standing in the impact zone waving, so people say this is proof the fires werent hot enough. Two problems that these CT's love to avoid. 1: Most of these CT's either dont know or just dont mention that Edna Cintron jumped sometime after the picture was taken. So why did she jump if the fires werent hot enough? 2:Ct's claim Thermate was used to bring down the towers. Thermate when ignited burns well over 2,000 degrees, so with this info in hand are we to assume that Mrs. Cintron was able to withstand that kind of temperature. That temperature would have been much higher than the fires inside the towers. So how did Edna walk around in the building where Thermate was melting steel without being burned?
Eyewitnesses:
Many Ct sites point out to witnesses that heard explosion at ground zero but are quick to dismiss the 136 eyewitnesses that saw the AA crash into the Pentagon. As in many high stress situations some witness statements may differ from others , so, of course, all witness statements cant be reliable. It's true that lots of people used words like "explosion" and "bomb" to describe what they saw and heard at the WTC, but none of that proves actual explosives were used. You can hear an "explosion" without a bomb being required, and saying something was "like a bomb" doesn't mean you think it was one. Your senses can be easily fooled especially hearing. So are we to take what people say SOUNDED like an explosion over people who say they SAW the plane crash into the Pentagon? Why is it that CT sites are "proclaiming" to spread the truth but yet leave out the 136 people who saw the crash?
Experts
Many Ct's will not take anything the NIST as fact and any little miss caculation or contradiction to other known cases are their proof that the NIST cant be trusted. Basically saying that since the NIST lied about this, we cant believe them about that. Every CT though seems to overlook some of their proffesionals failed past and their studies. For example, Stephen Jones, founder of the scholars for 9/11 truth, has sought radiocarbon dating evidence of the existence of pre-Columbian horses in the Americas, and has interpreted archaeological evidence from the ancient Mayans as SUPPORTING HIS FAITHS BELIEFS ,that Jesus Christ visited America. Or how about Senator Max Cleland who voted to go to war in Iraq just so he could have a better chance of winning voter support. Or how about Richards Gage's edited video of the Leo Minetta testimony showing only the last part of the conversation. You know he left out the most important part,what they were talking about! So these experts are pretty expert at twisting the truth and presenting false information. You truthers can have your 1400 structural eingineers and architects , and I will take the 270,000 civil engineers in America alone who dont believe in the conspiracy.
So what's it going to be truthers explosives, no explosives? Thermite, Thermate, Nanothermite? Edited videos or entire videos? GOVERNMENT SHILL OR NOT A GOVERNMENT SHILL. Many times have people called me a government shill and I just sit back and laugh. This alone discredits almost everything you spew onto the computer screen.Truthers, do you see why you get ridiculed now? You cant even do research on one person how could anyone expect you to properly research a huge event like 9/11. You take an assumption and assume it as truth without knowing all the facts. Truthers you need to change the name of your movement because like Einstein said whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters!
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hahaha conspiracy theorists are hilarious
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByWrinkles (12.56) 
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i think the Ct sites are contaminated with lies made up by government officials, just to add to the doubts of the real "truthers"
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bysplifsend (124.94) 
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Why let logic and consistency get in the way of a good conspiracy theory?
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byjohn1054 (5153.84)

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9/11 was a vast conspiracy alright...a vast ISLAMIC conspiracy to attack America
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByWE ARE POWER (3490.86) 
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massive fucking plane hits skyscraper at 500 mph, its pretty obvious its gona come down.
All these truthers cant handle the TRUTH that buildings CAN fall down.
Fucktards wasting their own time .. thanks god most people on LL can see right tru this shit.
Love this site
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByDT010MOD2 (34.90) 
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Do ya know, DTD... it wouldn't be so bad if that was the case!? It's MORE difficult for these people to understand that these 'goat-fuckers', 'dune-coons', tea-towel heads', or whatever the new name is for them... weren't carrying out chalk drawings on cave walls of 'matchstick planes hitting big tall rectangular things'!!!!
They were/are highly trained architects and engineers themselves who will have worked out the 'soft spots' to the 'n'th degree, using calculations beyond most of our compre More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByThe_Dogs_Bollox (1227.50) The_Dogs_Bollox View Channel Send Message
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what are you gonna do?
some ppl are convinced that aliens built the pyramids, the earth is 6000 years old.
there are lots of stupid ppl and they loves the far fetched fairy tales.
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byjen8933 (1061.36) jen8933 View Channel Send Message
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Occam's razor
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByRob8729 (837.72) 
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I wonder at your motives. You must have spent a lot of time putting together these threadbare videos, but even though your arguments don't hold water, you've consumed a lot of video making them. Lots of resources, coming from where?
But why now? Why this onslaught of "refutations" now? 9/11 was almost ten years ago now. The trail, we thought, was getting cold. So why are you getting so exercised now?
Is someone%u2014or group%u2014actually getting warm?
You will never, ever, g More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bybogustrumper (10.12) bogustrumper View Channel Send Message
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Will never "get around" WT7 inside the deluded minds of conspiracy theorists. You idiots will rant about this stuff forever, just like the moon landing. You're just children with active imaginations. And, sad little people who can't cope with the trivial nature of their own existence and need to embrace retarded conspiracy theory just like religious people need to embrace religion. Life is too mundane for you, so you prefer to pretend that the world is an action espionage movie.
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByST0N3PONY (5063.02) 
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Bro, doesn't matter to them. You have hundreds of eyewitnesses who watched the plane slam into the Pentagon- gardeners, other pilots, people on the freeway as the plane flew right over their heads. Some even saw the faces of the passengers they were that close. Doesn't matter to truthers. The witnesses must all be lying- that's their only attack. Where are all the missing passengers and crew? Truthers say they are all in some kind of secret Bush prison or were all murdered because truthers ca More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bymigs1955 (914.24) 
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He did WTC 7 last month.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=502_1296121063
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bytyrant68 (620.84) tyrant68 View Channel Send Message
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*Sigh*
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byup488 (141.80) 
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Instead of asking truth seekers what it's going to be why not ask the government instead. Ask them for a new full investigation where all the questions are answered.
Seriously, the only people laughing at Truthers are fanatical "believers" of the official story.
And let's be honest believers are so out of touch with reality that the only people who listen to them are other believers, who as we all know are the minority on the planet.
So really what is the importance of their op More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byjpaw (0.60) jpaw View Channel Send Message
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You know in all ya films never once did you explain the molten metal
That burned for weeks after.
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byozi_jon (97.10) 
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Let me explain it for you.
There was no molten metal that burned for weeks.
Anything else I can help clear up for you?
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bylonewolf6972 (677.56) lonewolf6972 View Channel Send Message
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So this must be another place then OK excuse me
Molten Metals under WTC 6 weeks after 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmMLDG87Sak
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byozi_jon (97.10) 
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There wasn't molten metal that burned for weeks idiot. There were fires underneath all the debris burning. You're fucking stupid.
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byhaloman6 (18.86) haloman6 View Channel Send Message
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Well its good to see you got it partially right. It is molten metal but not steel. As far as your fire for six weeks, chenistry and the studies of exothermic reaction would be a good place to start.
Oxidation of iron by air is not the only EXOTHERMIC reaction of iron (= structural steel which is about 98 % Fe, 1 % Mn, 0.2 % C, 0.2 % Si.....). There is at least one additional reaction of iron with the capability of keeping the rubble pile hot and cooking!
The reaction between IRON AND STEA More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bybarogers619 (1091.06) barogers619 View Channel Send Message
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OH a bit jumpy hay
GO easy
I only know what was in the news like most of us
and asking it to be explained
so maybe you know how to explain
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byozi_jon (97.10) 
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SOMEONE FOUND THE BBC TAPES...
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByOwenHiggins (1648.14) OwenHiggins View Channel Send Message
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Barogers, with all respect, i've never pretended to know indefinitely the events of September 11th, however i do know the "official story" is full of half truths and contradiction that it warrants a full independent investigation.
Six out of the Ten 911 commission member stated it was a cover up. What does that tell you.
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByFoster777 (162.26) Foster777 View Channel Send Message
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Foster no one will ever know all the details of 9/11. You people spend all your time arguing that they set up explosives, shot missle into the Pentagon, and planted evidence so on and so forth. The thing is if we look deep enough we can tell they had nothing to do with the set up of 9/11. The question we should be asking is how much did they know about the plot before 9/11. How much did they ignore and why they chose to ignore the intelligence? Or how much of the intelligence was right? You guys More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bybarogers619 (1091.06) barogers619 View Channel Send Message
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Funny how all you people failed to comment on the ENG presentation of fires effects on steel. You only believe in the "science' that fits your belief. True scientist look at all the evidence given to them not the ones that fit their agenda, unless you are Stephen Jones or someone like that.
Posted Feb-17-2011 Bybarogers619 (1091.06) barogers619 View Channel Send Message
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Would it surprise you that the majority of us NON-truthers don't trust government to any degree?
Regardless how untrustworthy the government is does not change what we witnessed and physics.
Truthers have no consensus other than the official position is wrong. From missiles, to hidden thermite, the purpose was to keep oil prices down, or to keep oil prices up, or avenge Daddy's war. There is not consistency with the truther argument, and when the evidence that was supposedly the basis of their More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByYukon6400 (971.82) Yukon6400 View Channel Send Message
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uh they were all in WTC7!!!!!
Well those are facts that ummm aren't really facts. Those were all planted evidence! And ummm alll those people who were supposed to be on those planes were umm well they weren't real people!!! I mean, no I mean they are all at some hidden military base!!! yeah that's it! ha!!!!!! And then there was wtc7! ha! I win!
Posted Feb-17-2011 ByVekurus (113.12) Vekurus View Channel Send Message
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I've basically resorted to ignoring people online that spout this BS or punching them in the face if meet them out and about. They're the same idiots who believe the US let Pearl Harbor happen, we never landed on the moon, and JFK wasn't killed by Oswald.
I take it pretty personally when my whole family for 4 generations back have worked in intelligence or some form of the government whether it be the a Colonel in the Airforce, Secret Service or the FBI. All of them were proud of their countr More..
Posted Feb-17-2011 Byhaloman6 (18.86) haloman6 View Channel Send Message
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