A Global News investigation has found dozens more misclassified firearms which might be deleted with the long gun registry.
Yesterday, Global News reported finding 361 handguns
and three automatic weapons classified as if they were mainstream
rifles or shotguns, which, all other things being equal, means that
their data will be deleted. Since that story appeared, we have
found more than 120 weapons in the firearms registry which aren't
classified at all. They include 33 handguns - prohibited or restricted
weapons, depending on barrel length - and 12 automatic weapons, which
may or may not have been converted to semi-automatic fire."(Under
Bill C-19) If there is a record relating to a firearm that is not
prohibited or restricted, it needs to be destroyed," Ottawa lawyer
Solomon Friedman explains. "I think what this highlights more than
anything is the level of inaccuracy in the registry in the first place:
that you can have a Glock there in the data that has no class."However,
after being provided with the erroneous data, The RCMP now says it
will investigate and correct any errors before deleting the long gun
data base."The records pointed out by Global News had been
flagged for follow up. Such records would not be destroyed if, after
verification, they turn out to actually be restricted or prohibited
firearms," said Greg Cox, a media relations officer with the force. This
is in addition to an on-going process to clean up the registry prior to
deletion. "The deletion of this data is a complex process, which
includes sorting records of restricted and prohibited firearms from
those of non-restricted firearms, so that the restricted and prohibited
records are not destroyed. In some cases, owners of restricted and
prohibited firearms have erroneously registered them as non-restricted.
The CFP has ongoing data quality control procedures to find and flag
these errors by firearm owners, and correct them."HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS
Until April, Canada’s firearm registration system tracked three types of firearms:
Non-restricted weapons
are shotguns and rifles normally used by hunters and farmers. The
database tracking these weapons, which legislation passed in April has
ordered destroyed, is referred to as the “long-gun registry”. Restricted weapons mostly covers handguns with barrels over a given length.
Prohibited weapon
is a confusing term – a better one might be ‘strictly regulated.’ This
category includes handguns with barrels under a given length and a small
number of legally owned automatic weapons. Restricted and prohibited weapons will continue to be registered. Owners of any type of firearm must still be licenced.
The
new batch of firearms include two home-made Sten guns - simply designed
British sub-machine guns produced in large numbers during the Second
World War - 15 revolvers and 18 semi-automatic handguns. There is also
an Austrian-made sub-machine gun described as 'experimental'. Automatic
weapons and converted automatic weapons are both classed as prohibited
weapons. (Legally, firearms in Canada must be categorized as
non-restricted, restricted or prohibited. Bill C-19, possed into law in
April, requires officials to delete information on firearms which are
not classified as restricted or prohibited. These ‘non-restricted’
categorized weapons are form what is typically referred to as the long
gun registry.)The new discoveries bring the total of restricted
and prohibited weapons in line to be erroneously deleted with the long
gun registry to 407. Part of the root of the problem lay in the
design of the registry, argues John Evers of the Canadian Shooting
Sports Association:"They wrote software which made it possible to
make a simple mouse-click error. The system allowed you to register a
handgun as non-restricted. Any good software engineer would have made
sure that can't happen - that once you select 'handgun' you can't select
'non-restricted,' but the system let them do it.""We were not
all that co-operative,” Evers says of some gun owners’ response to the
registry process. “I know several people who put down everything as
unknown - unknown make, unknown serial number, because the law said that
if you made an error, you were liable for those errors. So to be safe,
they said they didn't know. A lot of my guns are 'unknown make/unknown
model' as a protest against what they are trying to do."A
redacted copy of the national firearms database, including the doomed
long gun data, was released to Global News under access-to-information
laws in May."These facts should give the government of so called
'law and order' serious reasons to review those facts very carefully
before destroying all data from the long gun registry," said Opposition
justice critic Françoise Boivin. "First to protect all good law abiding
Canadian citizens who registered their guns and second in the name of
basic public security."The long gun registry outside Quebec has not yet actually been deleted, though police no longer have access to it.
http://www.globalnews.ca/interactive/120619_firearms/index.html
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So you guys can't own pistols up there in the great white north? I heard one of the best "last chance" weapons to have on you against a grizzly bear attack is a snub nosed big bore magnum like a .44 or .454. You can't own one these guns in that giant wilderness of a country you have there? That blows.
Posted Jun-19-2012 Bydirtbiker201 (1461.38) 
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@dirtbiker201 You can own a sidearm, but it's under a restricted weapons license.
As for the bear, it's better to make shitloads of noise when your in the bush, than having to test out the penetrating power of your firearm.
I've heard stories of rounds deflecting off bears skulls.
Definitely, a check your drawers moment.
Posted Jun-19-2012 ByHiarken (558.14) 
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@dirtbiker201 im in sudbury ontario (canada) and we dont call our teAm the sudbury wolves for nothing, i wish they see the logic in having people have sub machine guns or military rifles, im less afraid of a bear then i am of our canadian wolves or even grey wolf pack thats native to canada.........
i dont care how good you are at aiming, im a pretty good marksmen but when you have 12 pack headed your way all wanting to make you dinner and they are charging, nobody gonna be calm steady aim at t More..
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@Hiarken
"it's better to make shitloads of noise when your in the bush, than having to test out the penetrating power of your firearm"
That's what she said. LOL!!!
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Well, sure, who wouldn't rather have an assault rifle or a carbine with a big clip if you were up against a pack of wolves. I just read the article and thought it said pistols were prohibited.
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Gun sales boom as firearm owners anticipate crackdown.
20% increase in sales from last year.
Ammunition orders are 1 year in advance.
Source: FOX NEWS
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1697161532001/
Posted Jun-19-2012 ByRebel_Radius (1458.82) 
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@Rebel_Radius Lots of stupid people here in the states.
Posted Jun-19-2012 Bycdlcrash (324.80) 
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@cdlcrash Well, when they hold a gun in their hand, it gives them that sense of control and power that they otherwise don't have in any other way. It makes them feel less helpless and vulnerable. This way, they don't have to deal with their failing jobs and out of control kids. They can just go to the shooting range or just sit in the dark stroking it (the gun) while they rock back and forth gently repeating "thou shall not kill unless Rush demands it..." over and over and over agai More..
Posted Jun-19-2012 ByBoondoggles (175.02) 
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@Boondoggles if you hear a window break in the middle of the night, you'll wish your cell phone were a glock instead.
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@Hitler_Is_Amazing Where I live, weighing the risks and benefits, I'm better off without a gun. It's not necessary.
I'm all for private gun ownership. I'm against all the conspiracies being espoused by the more vocal/crazy gun advocates. Our politicians are bought and sold like cattle by those with money and connections, which in turn effects our lives immeasurably. It's generally accepted as the way it is. Hell, money is considered speech now!
But bring up any kind of gun "contr More..
Posted Jun-21-2012 ByBoondoggles (175.02) 
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I have a glock 26 on my desk a foot away right now. What's the big deal with guns - I believe Canadians could be trusted with them, as a country. But thank God i'm an American. We ain't perfect, but we do have 2A, and there's no more physical proof of freedom then a glock on your desk. (Yeah its loaded too - in Australia they'd be shocked).
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I wish Canadians had more guns, i would fight with you for your freedoms, i would hope if capable you would help me fight for mine too
Posted Jun-20-2012 Bymericanborn (169.70) mericanborn View Channel Send Message
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$2 billion in the hole.
Jeezes, still pisses me off.
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