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Guilty As Stim: Chris Hayes Digs Up Devastating Video Of Paul Ryan Stimulus Hypocrisy

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by Tommy Christopher Newly-minted vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan was already having a bad first week of running-matery when he told a reporter that he “never asked for stimulus,” only to be later confronted with letters in which he did exactly that, letters in which he extolled the job-creating virtues of stimulus funds. On Sunday morning’s Up with Chris Hayes, host Chris Hayes
dug Ryan’s shovel-ready hole a little deeper with some devastating
archival videos that show Ryan arguing for stimulus more forcefully than
any Democrat.
With the Romney/Ryan ticket already losing the fight they knew they were going to have, they needed this stimulus story like they needed a knife in their Granny’s necks. When Ryan told an Ohio TV reporter
that he “never asked for stimulus,” however, he opened a can of worms
the size of Cleveland. Ryan also told that local reporter that he
“opposed the stimulus because it doesn’t work.”
As it turned out, Ryan had secured tens of millions of dollars in stimulus funds by writing letters
praising the program. Ryan’s office explained that he was just trying
to help some of his constituents out…with something that he says
“doesn’t work.”
That’s pretty bad, but “a constituent made me do it” is the kind of
answer that might satisfy people, especially the Ryan-enthralled
mainstream media. Enter Chris Hayes, who set the table with a 2010 clip
of Ryan blasting “borrow and spend” policies as a failed experiment,
followed by some Bush-era clips of Ryan forcefully advocating for those exact kinds of policies,
while also acknowledging that unemployment often drags on in a
recovery. The fact that Paul Ryan is making arguments in these clips
that could serve as campaign ads for President Obama isn’t the most
surprising thing about these clips, though:




What is surprising is that, while Romney, Ryan, and the Republicans
are running around attacking the President’s economic record, no one on
the President’s side is making these arguments this well. Despite the fact that the stimulus did exactly what it was promised to do, and the fact that the President’s job creation record since the Bush Effect wore off is
pretty damn good, the President and his team have downplayed them
because the political media has made the calculation that those aren’t
winning arguments, that if things are still bad, people don’t want to
hear how much worse they could have been. However, flat poll numbers for
Romney following recent poor jobs reports would seem to indicate that
people get that argument, to some extent.
As Hayes and panel also pointed out, it’s not as if 2002 Paul Ryan
came to Jesus after passing several stimulus packages under President
George W. Bush. In 2009, he voted in favor of a competing $715 billion Republican stimulus package.
Liberals are often too enamored with hypocrisy arguments, though, as
Hayes mentioned at the start of Saturday’s show (but fir different
reasons). The notion of hypocrisy strikes at the character of the
hypocrite, rather than at the ideal they’re not living up to. In my
view, these arguments obscure the real problems with Republican views
and policies, which is that they’re wrong.
Don’t judge Paul Ryan and Mit Romney on whether they have always
thought the same things they do now, or even on whether they magically,
coincidentally changed their minds when Barack Obama became president.
Listen to what Ryan said in 2002, or what Romney said in 2004, and what they’re saying now, and decide, for yourselves, which of them makes more sense.
In 2002, Ryan said “What we’re trying to accomplish is to pass the
kinds of legislation that, in the past, have grown the economy and
gotten people back to work,” which is true, and verifiable. Now, he
insists the stimulus didn’t work, despite the fact that he wrote letters
indicating the opposite, and despite the fact that the stimulus did exactly what it was designed to. Ignore the hypocrisy, and focus on the fact that Paul Ryan is beating himself in this argument.

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  • Flip flopper just like his uncle Mitt.

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  • LOL paul ryan pwnd himself.

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  • ***BULLSHIT ALERT***
    ***MSNBC...BULLSHIT***

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    • @jgmurj What's the valid point?
      Just because MSNBC said it it's true?
      You're simply another Liberal puppet
      Congrats

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    • @jgmurj I watched all 6:51 seconds of it.
      I have no problem with this. I respect one who changes ideas and policies as the situation changes.
      I'd rather have a candidate change than one like Obummer who continues to push failed policy after failed policy because he's so hell bent on pushing his socialist agenda.
      Another poor attempt at the FAR LEFT/LIBERAL MSNBC media.

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  • It's going to take a few years for politicians to get used to recorded tapes of their bullshit coming back to bite them! LOL

    Ryan is the poster-child of what is wrong with American politicians. I would bet that his words back then were given to him by one (or more) of his biggest campaign contributors.

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  • Lol, yet another weasel...

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  • Is that it? IS that the best you can do? Is that all you can find on this guy?? WELL HECK HE'S GOT MY VOTE. Thanks for showing us who to vote for. Compared to Barry Dog Eating, Monkey worshiping, Muslim, Pot smoking, Cocaine snorting, Luciferian, You didn't build shit, Racists, Communist Asshole. Then Paul Ryan Rocks.

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  • Ouch!What a hack!Can't wait to see how the resident dopes spin this one.Didn't this 02 stimulus also include a check for taxpayers too?

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  • This is the same asshole who said dead American soldiers were not heroes. A great American.

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  • Of course,there's only really one party and they have to make it look divided.

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  • Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Brilliant!

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  • How did they manage to find a male version of Butch Maddow?

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  • The Left is desperate, and it shows.

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  • Find me the video of the politician NOT being a hypocrite...then I am surprised.

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  • What is there to say, I was one of the people that was saying ANYONE would be better than Obama... but Romney/Ryan... Idk...

    There doesn't seem to be a difference at this point.

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  • Chris Hayes is a bitch.

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    • @jgmurj Every time I see him nothing else but "bitch boy" comes to mind. He is a little cowardly girly little make up wearing emo looking bitch. He gives white men a bad name. He's like Rachel Madow without the dick.

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  • Just wondering,have these pieces of obama-cheerleading garbage spent 1 minute talking about Fast and Furious?

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  • Who, so Rachel Maddow got a sex change, but dresses as a female on her own show. Interesting.

    Very basic fact, it is our local Representatives job, and only theirs, to get money from the Federal Government for local infrastructure etc.. I think we can all agree that the Federal Government stepping and bailing out banks too many times or bailing out car industries, was not so hot of an idea. We (US TAX PAYERS LOST BIG on GM stock.. While Ford is doing just fine, denying a bailout) And guaranteei More..

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  • LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Libs running scared. Loving this. Weak, weak, weak!!!

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  • Chris Hayes (anti american) is about as relevant as alex jones. (GTFOH)

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  • This is crazy trying to make this a issue, he said then it would not work and he says now it did not work, he was right. The fact he took money from it means nothing he still has people he has to represent. This just proves he was right. This is why the Dems. aways implodes thinking it is a gotcha moment when it is the opposite.

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    • @big_tex

      Are you really that stupid? Ryan in the 02' clip sounds exactly like the dems right now.

      The reason is because it works. As Ryan said "we have Empirical data"

      Empirical data is data that is collected through observation/experiment, as opposed to be theoretical. From the ancient Greek for 'experience'.

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    • @dcmfox You remind me of a bunch of crows trying to get a small piece of bread. I watched it 2 more times then went and watched the whole thing ( more selective editing ) he was wanting to try and work with the Democrats on a stimulus in the BUDGET not wille neally. It is 10 years and 8 trillion dollars latter. You believe all left sound bites as truth in other words you are a good liberal follower and a useful idiot.

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    • @big_tex

      Really? Everyone is talking about it now.

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    • @dcmfox I have no doubt, there is a lot of people like you, where substance means nothing. Spread lies , make things up, post edited video's as fact, or just say it enough time's and the useful idiots will believe it. I do have to admit it works.

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    • @big_tex

      Nothing was edited. This guy is running for Senate. Do you really think anyone wants a lawmaker that thinks like this making our laws?

      People like you are scary. Even Romney and the POTUS have made comments denouncing him.

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