One of the three Marine special operations personnel killed in Helmand Province by an Afghan police commander on August 9th was a friend of a close friend of mine.
“I don’t even know what to think about this,” was his gut reaction to the news. “Too much raw anger and frustration right now.”
I think anger at the rogue Afghans and frustration as to why we are embroiled in such a futile conflict has many Americans scratching their heads and asking themselves why we’re still in Afghanistan. There have been at least 25 such “green on blue” shootings like this one since January, killing 31 U.S. and allied troops.
Nearly 11 years after we went into Afghanistan, it’s time we called a spade a spade, admit that we are fighting an endless and unwinnable war, and bring our sons and daughters back home.
With a broad and nebulous mission, a resilient and cunning enemy, restrictive rules of engagement, and an Afghan army and police force with dissidents turning their weapons on our troops, we face impossible odds. Combine this with the fact that we have broadcast our intent to leave the country in 2014, and the bottom line is clear: we have no chance of “winning” this war.
Our best option, at this juncture, is to bring our brave men and women home as safely and expeditiously as possible.
Our warriors have done everything asked of them, and more. They have deployed into harm’s way time and time again, leaving behind their brave and resolute families to struggle on in their absence. Many soldiers and Marines, particularly those in special operations and intelligence units with high operational tempos, have spent more time overseas in the last several years than they have back home. Their children have grown up without them, their husbands and wives have lived under constant uncertainty and fear, and their minds and bodies have endured more hardship than anyone deserves to bear.
How much sense does it make to delay our inevitable withdrawal until 2014?
The very forces we are attempting to train have killed dozens of our comrades, making our working relationship with the Afghan police and army one of acute contention and pervasive distrust. We can no longer trust the very forces we intend to train and empower to run the country when we leave. Whether the men that killed our troops were disgruntled local Afghans with a grudge against Americans or hard-core insurgents that infiltrated our ranks, the outcome is the same nonetheless. It is demoralizing to our forces. It makes us ask: “What are we still doing there?”
And if we can’t trust our Afghan counterparts, and must instead rely on “Guardian Angels” (i.e. armed Americans) to keep watch over any and all armed Afghans, why do we assume that these same Afghans should be entrusted to serve and protect after our departure?
There is no graceful way to bow out of this decade-long conflict.
We can do nothing and pull out our combat forces by 2015 as now planned. Or we can take a hard look at what’s happening and decide whether the cost in lives is worth the extra two years of anguish we’re sure to encounter if we stay in Afghanistan through 2014. Doing nothing and leaving our troops there is probably the “safest” political move, but this is a decision that calls for moral fortitude and leadership, not politics.
I think our country’s leadership would be well served to remember the Dalai Lama’s insistence that “in dealing with those who are undergoing great suffering, if you feel `burnout’ setting in, if you feel demoralized and exhausted, it is best, for the sake of everyone, to withdraw and restore yourself; the point is to have a long-term perspective.”
I’d say we’re demoralized and exhausted. When it comes to Afghanistan, perhaps it’s time to leave.
Read more: http://nation.time.com/2012/08/22/why-its-time-to-leave/?xid=rss-topstories#ixzz24j9lxx6d
By: BekasKhan
In: Afghanistan
Tags: Occupation, of, Afghanistan, by, US, NATO, CIA, Pakistan, terrorist, Punjabi, ISI, Al, Qaeda
Location: Afghanistan (load item map)
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I thought president golden boy was going to end the war as soon as he got in.
Posted Aug-27-2012 Bykajidono (686.26)

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Post under a different name or everyone will assume this is propaganda like I do.
Posted Aug-27-2012 Byjabulon (64.02) 
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opium trade / huge mineral deposits = black opps military & space funding... that's why the USA is in that shit hole rock pile. Sorry you guys are caught in the middle of this. Stay safe and kick ass. Buy you a beer when you get home.
Posted Aug-27-2012 Byad astra (178.80) 
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Anti-morale propaganda.
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByNotJim (1004.80) 
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You go if you want. we will stay and finish the job
Posted Aug-27-2012 Bypafc88 (104.84) 
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@pafc88 thats what the fuck i expect someone to say! FUCKIN RIGHT!
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByAfghanburger (273.70) 
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@pafc88 Good luck! 1842 ring any bells?
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByDoctor-T (53.20) 
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@Doctor-T what have you snow monkeys in Sweden achieved in the last 1000 years?
Posted Aug-27-2012 Bypafc88 (104.84) 
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@pafc88 Lol We gave you a pretty hard time until 1066 if I remember correctly.
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByDoctor-T (53.20) 
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@Doctor-T lol Ah the good old days of pre 1066 ;)
Posted Aug-30-2012 Bypafc88 (104.84) 
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i think title is misleading, the marines not scared, if he was he wouldn't of joined the army or the air force, the title is a complete fail,
Posted Aug-27-2012 Bycaptain_flange (50.12) captain_flange View Channel Send Message
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Come on home.
We have probs in DC and need your help...
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByPmoney (201.46) 
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It was time to leave Afghanistan 4 years ago. lol
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByDrox (56.20) 
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Get the troops home. Continue to fly drone missions. And just shoot anything that moves armed.
Posted Aug-27-2012 Bydav1936531 (506.92) 
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Us soldiers must be starting to realize that they are being sacrificed for nothing,it's no wonder their morale is so low. At least the Taliban know that their losses are not in vain,after all they are fighting to defeat an invader who has attacked and occupied their country,and that at least is a cause worth fighting for.
Posted Aug-27-2012 Bywerdum12 (254.00) 
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@werdum12 yes, Karzai seems like a true foreign invader.
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByJihad_Is_Pure_Murder (175.00) 
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Whether there is war or not, more afghans die on a yearly basis in afghanistan than foreigners due. Like it or not its the sad truth.
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByJihad_Is_Pure_Murder (175.00) 
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53 have been killed, not 31.
Posted Aug-27-2012 Bymarine187 (595.00) 
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I agree it is an unwinable war. They are fighting against warriors that care nothing about giving their lives to the cause. Vietnam repeated regrettably.
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByCameronHouse (10.92) CameronHouse View Channel Send Message
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@CameronHouse much different from vietnam.
Posted Aug-27-2012 ByJihad_Is_Pure_Murder (175.00) 
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