Quick Poll: Did Columbus discover America?
Added: Oct-8-2012 Occurred On: Oct-8-2012
By: BloodyPeasant
In: History
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By: BloodyPeasant
In: History
Tags: quick poll, columbus day, america
Location: Vatican City State (Holy See) (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 1024 | Comments: 95 | Votes: 0 | Favorites: 0 | Shared: 0 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 2
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Of course the natives were already there and the Vikings had arrived from Europe earlier. Columbus' achievement was important because his landfall initiated the most epoch human migration in recorded history.
Notice I said "recorded history" because it might be argued that there were some nomadic migrations that had a bigger impact on history. But even then I'm not sure the great Europe-to-America migration isn't far more important for having made the modern global community possible. More..
Posted Oct-8-2012 Byjohn1054 (5129.64)

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Nicely said!
Posted Oct-8-2012 Bycleetusawreetus (336.70) 
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Thanks. I posted it before realizing the real trick in the question: the United States wasn't discovered, it was founded by revolutionaries about three centuries later.
Posted Oct-8-2012 Byjohn1054 (5129.64)

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@john1054 Wow...you saved me some typing. Thanks. Well said, I might add.
Posted Oct-8-2012 Bysafetychuck2 (4092.02)

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Happy Columbus Day!
Posted Oct-8-2012 Byjohn1054 (5129.64)

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@john1054 Same to you my friend.
Posted Oct-8-2012 Bysafetychuck2 (4092.02)

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The United States didn't even exist back then.
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByX-Tatic (109.06) 
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Bingo. You caught the trick within the trick.
Posted Oct-8-2012 Byjohn1054 (5129.64)

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America was actually discovered early in the 6th century by an Irishman, St, Brendan the Navigator. He had the good sense to keep his mouth shut and tell nobody. If only Columbus had done the same. :)
Posted Oct-8-2012 BySetanta (410.90)

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I have always found it laughable that some fancy pants European supposedly showed up where a million people had already been living for likely 10,000 years and he was given credit for "discovering" a place he never actually saw with his own eyes.
He found some islands to the south, never personally made it to the North American continent and in fact he traveled more after he was dead than he ever did when he was alive..
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByValleyBlacksmith (683.00) 
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False, Al gore discovered america just before he invented the internet.
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByTrey_4_life (23.66) 
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he invaded
Posted Oct-8-2012 Bysplifsend (124.94) 
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The Clovis did.
And before that, the Engineers.
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByRogerTheShrubber (472.00) 
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And in the future.... Xenomorphs?
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByThe Answer (2301.90) 
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@The Answer along with Homo Erectus Dysfunctitalis.
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByRogerTheShrubber (472.00) 
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no
Posted Oct-8-2012 BymostcallmeFLEX (444.20) mostcallmeFLEX View Channel Send Message
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Once again, it's time to celebrate Columbus Day. Yet, the stunning truth is: If Christopher Columbus were alive today, he would be put on trial for crimes against humanity. Columbus' reign of terror, as documented by noted historians, was so bloody, his legacy so unspeakably cruel, that Columbus makes a modern villain like Saddam Hussein look like a pale codfish.
Question: Why do we honor a man who, if he were alive today, would almost certainly be sitting on Death Row awaiting execution?
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I think you got your history wrong, Columbus never reigned over anything, he just spent his life trying to get some kind of recognition from the Spanish crown and he barely got it, notably after having served jail time. In total and as a free man, he spent less than 5 years in America in 4 exploratory expeditions. The criminals you are referring to are all the subsequent conquistadors and governors, some of which were illiterate (e.g. Francisco Pizarro). But Columbus himself just didn' More..
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByValerie2007 (756.02) 
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@Valerie2007 , Columbus wasn't a hero. When he set foot on that sandy beach in the Bahamas on October 12, 1492, Columbus discovered that the islands were inhabited by friendly, peaceful people called the Lucayans, TaĆnos and Arawaks. Writing in his diary, Columbus said they were a handsome, smart and kind people. He noted that the gentle Arawaks were remarkable for their hospitality. "They offered to share with anyone and when you ask for something, they never say no," he said. The Ar More..
Posted Oct-9-2012 Byzziper (669.64) 
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@Valerie2007 Shockingly, Columbus supervised the selling of native girls into sexual slavery. Young girls of the ages 9 to 10 were the most desired by his men. In 1500, Columbus casually wrote about it in his log. He said: "A hundred castellanoes are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand."
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@Valerie2007 On his second trip to the New World, Columbus brought cannons and attack dogs. If a native resisted slavery, he would cut off a nose or an ear. If slaves tried to escape, Columbus had them burned alive. Other times, he sent attack dogs to hunt them down, and the dogs would tear off the arms and legs of the screaming natives while they were still alive. If the Spaniards ran short of meat to feed the dogs, Arawak babies were killed for dog food.
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Coincidentally, he also found that the little colony that he left on his first trip had been completely annihilated by the locals. That proves that he wasn't the first to initiate the hostilities and that he wasn't directly responsible for them...
Posted Oct-9-2012 ByValerie2007 (756.02) 
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Trick question: Columbus never landed in what is now the US, but his trip did lead to the eventual settlement of this land.
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByDing_Jianwen (200.98) 
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Well to Europeans, yes he found something that they previously did not know about (that we know). But to the people living here he didn't discover shit.
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByBlklight (1895.56) 
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@Blklight BINGO!!!!!! glad you said that.
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByAmusing (5223.48) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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Vikings and Norsemen were fishing off the American/Canadian waters long before Columbus supposedly "discovered" America.
Posted Oct-8-2012 Bypiranhakeet (78.30) 
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Perfect
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByRAMSEY44 (571.74) 
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False he discovered some island near the continents that that would later become known as the Americas.
Posted Oct-8-2012 Bybaggy (135.50) 
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If you're a C15th European sure....if you a bronze age tribesman wondering around East Russia/modern Alaska, then clearly not...
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByElegantDecline (2131.98) 
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There was cross Atlantic shipping lanes as far back as the Egyptian pharaohs but we have lost most of that evidence. There is still some left though
Posted Oct-8-2012 ByBlklight (1895.56) 
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He wasn't the first European to set his feet in America, but he was the first that initiated widespread contact between Europeans and indigenous Americans. It's believed that the vikings were the first white people in the Americas, but that can't be proven like Columbus' landing can.
Posted Oct-8-2012 Bydyret2001 (85.80) 
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