New and Not Improved
Senator Barack Obama stirred his legions of supporters, and raised our hopes, promising to change the old order of things. He spoke with passion about breaking out of the partisan mold of bickering and catering to special pleaders, promised to end President Bush’s abuses of power and subverting of the Constitution and disowned the big-money power brokers who have corrupted Washington politics.
Now there seems to be a new Barack Obama on the hustings. First, he broke his promise to try to keep both major parties within public-financing limits for the general election. His team explained that, saying he had a grass-roots-based model and that while he was forgoing public money, he also was eschewing gold-plated fund-raisers. These days he’s on a high-roller hunt.
Even his own chief money collector, Penny Pritzker, suggests that the magic of $20 donations from the Web was less a matter of principle than of scheduling. “We have not been able to have much of the senator’s time during the primaries, so we have had to rely more on the Internet,” she explained as she and her team busily scheduled more than a dozen big-ticket events over the next few weeks at which the target price for quality time with the candidate is more than $30,000 per person.
The new Barack Obama has abandoned his vow to filibuster an electronic wiretapping bill if it includes an immunity clause for telecommunications companies that amounts to a sanctioned cover-up of Mr. Bush’s unlawful eavesdropping after 9/11.
In January, when he was battling for Super Tuesday votes, Mr. Obama said that the 1978 law requiring warrants for wiretapping, and the special court it created, worked. “We can trace, track down and take out terrorists while ensuring that our actions are subject to vigorous oversight and do not undermine the very laws and freedom that we are fighting to defend,” he declared.
Now, he supports the immunity clause as part of what he calls a compromise but actually is a classic, cynical Washington deal that erodes the power of the special court, virtually eliminates “vigorous oversight” and allows more warrantless eavesdropping than ever.
The Barack Obama of the primary season used to brag that he would stand before interest groups and tell them tough truths. The new Mr. Obama tells evangelical Christians that he wants to expand President Bush’s policy of funneling public money for social spending to religious-based organizations — a policy that violates the separation of church and state and turns a government function into a charitable donation.
He says he would not allow those groups to discriminate in employment, as Mr. Bush did, which is nice. But the Constitution exists to protect democracy, no matter who is president and how good his intentions may be.
On top of these perplexing shifts in position, we find ourselves disagreeing powerfully with Mr. Obama on two other issues: the death penalty and gun control.
Mr. Obama endorsed the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the District of Columbia’s gun-control law. We knew he ascribed to the anti-gun-control groups’ misreading of the Constitution as implying an individual right to bear arms. But it was distressing to see him declare that the court provided a guide to “reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe.”
What could be more reasonable than a city restricting handguns, or requiring that firearms be stored in ways that do not present a mortal threat to children?
We were equally distressed by Mr. Obama’s criticism of the Supreme Court’s barring the death penalty for crimes that do not involve murder.
We are not shocked when a candidate moves to the center for the general election. But Mr. Obama’s shifts are striking because he was the candidate who proposed to change the face of politics, the man of passionate convictions who did not play old political games.
There are still vital differences between Mr. Obama and Senator John McCain on issues like the war in Iraq, taxes, health care and Supreme Court nominations. We don’t want any “redefining” on these big questions. This country needs change it can believe in.
Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

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Even the Times is calling him on this stuff now? Amazing.
Just an FYI, Barack isn't going to yank the troops out like he has been saying for the last year and a half that he would. It's another lie. After he takes the trip to Iraq, he will change his story. He has already alluded to how much progress is being made in Iraq, and now he is using a lot of words like adapt and flexible when it comes to Iraq strategy. Adapt, and flexible, as in NOT what he has been claiming all along.
Posted Jul-5-2008 Byston3pony (540.10) 
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He has also "refined" his Iraq stance. If he keeps this up I might just vote for him. And I am a Bush supporter.
Posted Jul-5-2008 Bybjaa04 (19.46) 
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Hook, line and sinker.
Posted Jul-6-2008 Byblackrabbit66 (3840.12) 
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What a flip flopping flap jack.
Posted Jul-7-2008 ByReapTheWhirlwind (2508.42) 
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"What could be more reasonable than a city restricting handguns, or requiring that firearms be stored in ways that do not present a mortal threat to children?"
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"the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
Posted Jul-5-2008 Byolemisspatriot (155.58) olemisspatriot View Channel Send Message
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A new order? He is already lining up the old Clinton people for cabinet positions. What is new about that?
Posted Jul-6-2008 By1949bboy (133.62) 1949bboy View Channel Send Message
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Oh yeah. And lol at anyone who thought this lying POS was gonna be any different than anyone else in Washington. At least when MCain flip flopped it was early enough for people to forget about it come election time. Congrats my fellow Americans. As I sit here and think about the LLers who have called me a Ronbot, I can only chuckle as I wonder how people could nominate these two completely incompetent, flip flopping, lying, retards.
Posted Jul-5-2008 Byolemisspatriot (155.58) olemisspatriot View Channel Send Message
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the B.O. is a consummate political being. a very fast learner, using the tricks all the rest use. the so-called 'flip-flop' was perfected before he was born.
rule #1 numero UNO in politics: do/say/whatever necessary to get elected.
all else comes out of that.
see what I mean about his quick learner attribute?
Posted Jul-6-2008 Bywhodatll (52.42) whodatll View Channel Send Message
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I agree- but the difference btw him and the rest of the politcal panderers is that he just started learning.
Posted Jul-6-2008 Bytj1973 (16.88) tj1973 View Channel Send Message
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LOL @ Cons
so is he the most liberal or is he a centrist?
i have never seen so many politically confused people in one place.
Posted Jul-5-2008 ByMaxBlacks (160.12) MaxBlacks View Channel Send Message
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As to your question- the main point the article illustrates is that Barak Obama doesn't even know.
Duh.
LMFAO @ LIBS.
Posted Jul-5-2008 Bytj1973 (16.88) tj1973 View Channel Send Message
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Obamma followers are joke!
Posted Jul-5-2008 Byornament (354.06) ornament View Channel Send Message
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maybe . . .
but the jokes on you
lol @ Cons
Posted Jul-6-2008 ByMaxBlacks (160.12) MaxBlacks View Channel Send Message
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he's been clear
you guys get your your information from people like Curveball . . . .you have ZERO credibility anymore.
LOL @ Cons!
Posted Jul-6-2008 ByMaxBlacks (160.12) MaxBlacks View Channel Send Message
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