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New Authorization of Worldwide War Without End?

Endless war
May 18, 2011
Congress may soon vote on a new declaration of worldwide war without end, and without clear enemies. A “sleeper provision” deep inside defense bills pending before Congress could become the single biggest hand-over of unchecked war authority from Congress to the executive branch in modern American history.

President Obama has not sought new war authority. In fact, his administration has made clear that it believes it already has all of the authority that it needs to fight terrorism.

But Congress is considering monumental new legislation that would grant the president – and all presidents after him – sweeping new power to make war almost anywhere and everywhere. Unlike previous grants of authority for the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, the proposed legislation would allow a president to use military force wherever terrorism suspects are present in the world, regardless of whether there has been any harm to U.S. citizens, or any attack on the United States, or any imminent threat of an attack. The legislation is broad enough to permit a president to use military force within the United States and against American citizens. The legislation contains no expiration date, and no criteria to determine when a president’s authority to use military force would end.

Of all of the powers that the Constitution assigns to Congress, no power is more fundamental or important than the power “to declare War.” That is why, in 2002, when Congress was considering whether to authorize war in Iraq, it held fifteen hearings, and passed legislation that cited specific harms, set limits, and defined a clear objective. Now, Congress is poised to give unchecked authority to the executive branch to use military force worldwide, with profoundly negative consequences for our fundamental democratic system of checks and balances. Once Congress expands the president’s war power, it will be nearly impossible to rein it back in. The ACLU strongly opposes a wholesale turnover of war power from Congress to the president – and all of his successors.

Un-friggin believable!!!

source - http://www.aclu.org/new-authorization-worldwide-war-without-end


Added: May-19-2011 Occurred On: May-19-2011
By: caddy56
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  • Does it not make you ask yourself the Question "Who are the bad guys......And WHAT side i am on" ?

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  • don't bother informing people.... most have their head in the sand... or they are sipping the kool aid... so many just don't seem to care.. and so many of the ones that do care... don't care enough to do anything about it......

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  • I can only hope the USA goes the same way as USSR, peaceful outcome for the world but a turbulant future for the States, I hope the people of amereica get back controll of there country when Rome fulls.

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  • I dont think the ppl will approve of this.

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  • As far as I can tell, the terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad thing in the legislation reads as follows:

    "Congress affirms that the United States is engaged in an armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces and that those entities continue to pose a threat to the United States and its citizens, both domestically and abroad."

    http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/Coalition_Memo_to_the_House_Committee_on_Armed_Services_Regarding_a_Proposed_Declaration_of_War.pdf

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    • @john1054

      You`re a crafty fucker....Aint you not, John ?

      Sussed you when you Spawned.

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    • @john1054 Congress a week after 9-11, gave the president the power to go after anyone who committed or aided in the 9/11 attacks, or who harbored such people, to prevent acts of terrorism. That authorized the war in Afghanistan and the raid on Bin Laden’s compound.

      Why the tricky lauguage? Affirm/Declare and armed conflict/war.. You don't see a problem?

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    • @flashj2

      No tricky language. We are in a conflict which is not a declared war. I don't think that is a surprise to anyone on this planet. And the passage expresses that reality.

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    • @john1054 That still doesn't address the problem. The words legally mean the exact same thing. This could be interpreted to do exactly what this article states. Did you read the bill? http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/full-committee-mark

      It would allow military attacks against not just Al Qaeda and the Taliban but also any “associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States.” That deliberately vague phrase could include anyone who doesn’t like America, even More..

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    • @flashj2
      There is nothing fuzzy about "hostilities" and "belligerents". Those are legal terms for people committing overt acts of war against the United States.

      If there are "associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States" then I hope the President does more than "detain belligerents".

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  • sounds like an excuse for obama to make the military into his own personal henchmen... the key words are ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE aka obama can eliminate his political enemies within the u.s. if they are suspected of terrorism.

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