First Spy Pic of New Chinese Stealth Fighter!!!
This come out over the last 24 hours or so, seems to be a smaller fighter then the J-20....
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old news, designs proudly stolen by china
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1018.90) 
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@peterjames2009 Exactly fucking right.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByThe Grim (745.20) 
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@peterjames2009 Oh because USA never stole military ideas from other countries?
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByTEXAS HOLDEM123 (9043.00) 
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@TEXAS HOLDEM123 didnt your mommy teach you two wrongs dont make a wang?
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1018.90) 
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@peterjames2009 Two wrongs? Why would it be wrong to steal from the nation that is China's biggest threat to strengthen your own country?
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByTEXAS HOLDEM123 (9043.00) 
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@TEXAS HOLDEM123 i see humor is not on your agenda today :P
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bypeterjames2009 (1018.90) 
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Stealth...really?
I can see it.
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bylitebyte (153.30) 
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@litebyte lol
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByTriode (468.60) 
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@litebyte
cuz you CHEAT !
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByAiredale (2612.66) 
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It sure China's own "spy photos", they have placed the photographers in the bushes and then drag around the aircraft until they have got good pictures of it,
just pure propaganda.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByKempe (269.14) 
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Raptor on the outside, Mig on the inside
Posted Sep-16-2012 Byceltbrewer (144.10) 
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@celtbrewer Yup, word is China are going to start mass producing their own engines though, and break their dependence on Russian engines.
After maintaining US carriers' jet engines for years I'm sure they have learned a lot....
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bydorbie (2528.20) dorbie View Channel Send Message
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Nice reverse engineering job done by China.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByThe Grim (745.20) 
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@The Grim Half the parts in your original raptors is made in china anyway.
Posted Sep-16-2012 Byblandadrops (105.02) blandadrops View Channel Send Message
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@blandadrops Yeah half is quite an overstatement and the parts we order from china aren't very classified, we get the same stuff from Canada and the UK
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByThe Grim (745.20) 
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Pirated.
Just like everything else they ever made...
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByMartyr_Machine (435.56) Martyr_Machine Send Message
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Say what you will about cheap stuff made in China....but China is more of a threat than most people seem to think.
Look how much of a cluster fuck the US is having with the middle east. Then remember that China sells a shitload of their weapons to middle east countries (as well as other countries).
To believe China would get their asses handed to them is a pipe dream at this point. China has the personnel, equipment, and land mass to make for a very, very tough opponent.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByKnowSkillz (86.40) 
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@KnowSkillz
China has no adequate logistics or bases to move their million man army and walmart weapons around the globe. They have no experience as well. They're a paper tiger with no stripes...
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByBen Cambone (331.20) 
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@KnowSkillz
Oh, noone - me, at least not - is thinking that China is not a threat.
The most successful entrepeneurs, entertainers, ... are those who steral the most neatly and put it to use the most efficiently.
Posted Sep-16-2012 BydeathOfHeavyD (231.70) 
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@Ben Cambone
Who says that?
Also, even if it was so, it would not matter because of the sheer mass and firepower of their forces and other ressources.
Posted Sep-16-2012 BydeathOfHeavyD (231.70) 
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@deathOfHeavyD "it would not matter because of the sheer mass and firepower of their forces and other ressources."
What are they gonna do, build a pontoon bridge of bodies and roll across the Pacific Ocean? China is one great big woof ticket just trying be get scalped...
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByBen Cambone (331.20) 
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@Ben Cambone
Well, they do have ships and planes and missiles, don't they?
And why do you think they lack adequate logistics to accomplish something? It's not like they are submitting public reports of their military efficiency.
Posted Sep-16-2012 BydeathOfHeavyD (231.70) 
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That thing is an F-22 clone.
I bet it costs a tiny fraction of what the US spends on one of theirs.
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bydorbie (2528.20) dorbie View Channel Send Message
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@dorbie w/ a fraction of the quality to match..
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bysp0ke (420.56) sp0ke View Channel Send Message
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@dorbie Because our leaders have down syndrome and dont understand how to insource.
Oh wait they do theyre just in bed with big Ceo's and banks to fuck over everyone else.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByAdirondack13 (160.30) Adirondack13 View Channel Send Message
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Totally skipped the exhaust system, but whatever.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByIthinkthat1 (1245.00) 
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Looks like someone stole the plans for the F-35.
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bycobalt187 (291.02) 
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Top speed 79 mph
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByDrey (23.70) 
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Aw~
It's soo cute. :3
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByDarkSim (113.10) 
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I personally think that Americans on this board shouldn't be afraid of J-20.
This thingy is far more dangerous for others, namely Asian countries like Japan, Philippines, Vietnam and so on.
I think their air forces and air defenses aren't really able to cope with this bird of pray.
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bywrano (2566.38) 
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The F-22 Raptor has a low heat signature due to its exhaust system. There's a difference between looking like an F-22 and being an F-22.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByIthinkthat1 (1245.00) 
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Yep correct! Did you see the episode of top gear filmed in china, they had made copies of some Audi's and some bmw's they looked similar but drove like a shity old tractor.......
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bythe welshman (236.88) 
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@the welshman Thank you
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByIthinkthat1 (1245.00) 
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@Ithinkthat1 I don't see any thrust vectoring system on the Chinese plane either.
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bydav1936531 (503.72) 
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@the welshman I just saw that episode the other day; I was wondering why I never see any Chinese cars, it's because they'd all be patent violations in Western countries. The real Chinese "cars," of course, was exactly like what I saw when I lived in Vietnam: motorized Tricycles with sheet-metal cabins an a wooden pickup-truck bed.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByNightCrawler (140.10) 
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@the welshman
At least they have a car industry .......
Where is UK car industry ?
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByH3dgehog (474.50) 
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Why wouldn't you steal?
If somebody has already spent billions on the R&D already, there is absolutely no point in reinventing the wheel.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByZhongnanhai (24.40) 
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@Zhongnanhai
So basically you are saying stealing is okay?
Well, let's be honest, the "People's (LOL) Party" has been stealing from you since they came to power.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByMartyr_Machine (435.56) Martyr_Machine Send Message
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Yes. Espionage happens, boo hoo.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByZhongnanhai (24.40) 
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@Zhongnanhai
Everything your country has was stolen from someone else.
You must be proud.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByMartyr_Machine (435.56) Martyr_Machine Send Message
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@Martyr_Machine
Its actually quite slick and smart for them to do so. The Russians and so many other civilizations have been doing this for centuries. Even the US did it after WW2 when we took information from Japanese and German scientists. But I understand your frustation. This has been an acknowledged problem for quite a long time, yet our govt has failed to make it a priority tilll recently. Almost, as if they wanted the Chinese to close the gap, so defence industries could ram us in t More..
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByAxisofEvil (554.88) 
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@AxisofEvil I don't consider it stealing, after WWII. After all, the scientists came and "voluntarily" helped us with our technology.
The Chinese infiltrate and take documents that are not for anyone but ourselves; and they have no problem doing it. It's their culture.
I have lived in Asia, and it is just a trash heap. It will never be comparable to the West because the morals are so different from what we experience in civilized nations.
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByNightCrawler (140.10) 
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