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Why I am against censorship... on sites like this.
I am against censorship on liveleak.com Marked as: Rejected I am against the censoring and deleting of any comments: by allowing the ignorant, arrogant, insulting and stupid comments to be posted, liveleak.com would be displaying for the world to see the exact type of humans that take the time to comment.

But WHY allow this!?!?! You ask? Well…

It would be a lot more interesting to see how people ARE without being told how to act, instead of seeing how they ARE after being told how to act. By keeping liveleak.com comments uncensored, unaltered, un-manipulated we can view the comments as a type of gauge to judge how far humanity (liveleak.com users) has come. To judge where we are by looking at how people REACT to specific stimuli. This type of human behavior should be spotlighted instead of brushed to the side and hidden. We are better served as a species to place our behaviors out in the open for all to see instead of hiding it as soon as possible. I mean, c’mon, it is the Internet after all.

It is in ALL of our best interests to let the comment sections remain untouched.

I can already predict it, the saddest of all revelations that would come after liveleak.com does do what they should. This would be the spamming of comments completely off topic to the video at hand. Just for the sake of advertising something that will make someone money, do we really want to hide this or allow it to reign supreme? If we are prohibited to HIDE IT, (hiding it is the status quo) we might find it unbearable, and then start attacking the source of such idiocy because this spamming is "wrong" it should not be necessary.

It will be better for humanity to solve problems at the source instead of attacking the symptoms. If we keep on hiding the symptoms we will find the source when it is “too late”.

By hiding the symptoms of the problems we obviously have, who are we actually aiding? the answer is, THE DISEASE. So, consider what i have brought up.


When the comments remain untouched a place like this would serve as a guinea pig of sorts for the academic world to see how humans react to certain stimuli...


Finally, when large groups of people attempt to use this uncensored place by spamming it with their view point. I find it to be the mods responsibilities to spotlight the minority viewpoint, thus preventing the drowning of it. The mods would also have to be weary of disinformation and not allow the disinformation to get too much attention..... This what the mods job should be.


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  • A grand idea that would end up being a place of schoolyard insults and childish racism. Academia would be disinterested but it would give people yet another lever to try and pressure the poweres that be into shutting us down somehow.

    Sorry, that's the way of it.

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  • Mars: "
    sneakin_and_peekin: "I don't agree with silencing any posts or comments. If you don't agree with something, or your sensitivities are hurt, tough.

    It looks like those hand-wringing lily-livered "liberals" on that BBC program really put the fear of God into Liveleak!"
    The rules have been in place since Oct 06. How did the BBC have anything to do with it?"
    The whiners who can't read the FAQ's are just cock-a-doodle-doo-ing again, thats all.

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  • Mars: "A grand idea that would end up being a place of schoolyard insults and childish racism. Academia would be disinterested but it would give people yet another lever to try and pressure the poweres that be into shutting us down somehow.

    Sorry, that's the way of it."
    I'm not so sure I agree; what 'powers that be' would shut this site down? Have you been warned already?

    Is that why you've gravitated away from "Ogrish style" media?

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  • It's your site. You preach freedom of thought yet suppress it. Worked for Stalin.

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  • Ahhh, I finally put it together who sexsexsex is...

    Its Rottingqueersoul aka wgeorgew!

    Hey george, I wish you hadn't sacrificed yourself for that guy jere the other day, you been here as long as I and your viewpoints are valid. Stick around and contribute. Asking why why why isn't going to do any good, it'll only ppiss you off, george.

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  • Eight: "It's your site. You preach freedom of thought yet suppress it. Worked for Stalin."
    Its possible to express any and all points without breaching the TOS.

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  • It is a toughy but if you have seen the way Aids has got grilled recently on the news you should get the picture that it may not take much to jump on LL's free voice box if some measures are not taken.

    It is still a very free media site and the childish comments don't seem to have totally disappeared (hey I'm still posting! :)).

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  • Eight: "It's your site. You preach freedom of thought yet suppress it. Worked for Stalin."
    Agreed. Freedom and technolgy are scary things to some.

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  • Unfortunately, people would very soon get bored with the experement of allowing every idiot to spam, a vid, advertise their products. .. viagra, dating, lose weight fast, etc. And before you know it you have an empty site exept for advertisers and school kids.
    If you don't believe me take a look at 'public' unmoderated Yahoo groups.

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  • AmericaCrYs: "
    Bashman: "
    Mars: "
    sneakin_and_peekin: "I don't agree with silencing any posts or comments. If you don't agree with something, or your sensitivities are hurt, tough.

    It looks like those hand-wringing lily-livered "liberals" on that BBC program really put the fear of God into Liveleak!"
    The rules have been in place since Oct 06. How did the BBC have anything to do with it?"
    The whiners who can't read the FAQ's are just cock-a-doodle-doo-ing again, thats all."
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    you clearly have no idea who mars is then

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  • Wow, you cant be serious with unmoderated comments. They look the way they do because the staff is moderating them, and they are still a travesty. Imagine if there was no moderation. It would be so much spam and flames that nobody would read the comments.

    On the contrary the comment section needs MORE moderation. Hell, I have probably flagged between 200 and 500 comments cause of racial slurs in my time here.

    Yesterday I spent 20 minutes just flagging comments in the comment section of a v More..

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  • AmericaCrYs: "
    Bashman: "
    Mars: "
    sneakin_and_peekin: "I don't agree with silencing any posts or comments. If you don't agree with something, or your sensitivities are hurt, tough.

    It looks like those hand-wringing lily-livered "liberals" on that BBC program really put the fear of God into Liveleak!"
    The rules have been in place since Oct 06. How did the BBC have anything to do with it?"
    The whiners who can't read the FAQ's are just cock-a-doodle-doo-ing again, thats all."
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    bullshit, i have mastered the game, spanky.

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  • Ok Masonic devil one eye we know who you are?
    one eye in dollar bill , one eye in big brother, one eye in the hill, one eye in the sphx, one eye in CIA one eye in cameras!!!!!!!!!!!could you please go to your youtube!!!! liveleak will not let you any chance cabron!

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  • AmericaCrYs: "
    Bashman: "
    Mars: "
    sneakin_and_peekin: "I don't agree with silencing any posts or comments. If you don't agree with something, or your sensitivities are hurt, tough.

    It looks like those hand-wringing lily-livered "liberals" on that BBC program really put the fear of God into Liveleak!"
    The rules have been in place since Oct 06. How did the BBC have anything to do with it?"
    The whiners who can't read the FAQ's are just cock-a-doodle-doo-ing again, thats all."
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    You are mistaken in what you say, I am shown no special privelege here. As Triton says I have been warned in the past, I have had comments removed in the past, I just have kinda learned when to stfu and when to jab to the ribs.

    That statement I made above:

    "bullshit, i have mastered the game, spanky."

    It didn't violate any rules, yet managed to convey a sense of "I am better than you at this" and then throw in a little nickname for your kid brother's friend and there you have a jab.

    It managed to tick you off, and be cocky, without violating the FAQ. Flying below the radar, its called.

    I CHALLENGE you to show one comment that I have made, that in and of itself got another member banned. You have to remember that people who have already had several warnings in a short period of time, or have been previously banned, get less leeway than others.

    Don't get me wrong, I wasn't serious about the "bullshit, I have mastered the game, spanky" comment...I was just trying to point out "how" you can use language to intimidate and anger your opponent, while not violating any rules.

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  • LOL ... Hi wgw!! So its acceptable behavior for a member to insult those who work for the site? hmmm, funny how you can still be indignant after they allowed you to come back

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  • This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine!

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  • KingLawahaha: "
    DannytheTroll: "
    KingLawahaha: "Bullshit sites don't get good advertising,....lets say you own a hot dog stand,...and every other hot dog you cook you let one fall to the ground,.but yet you decide to sell it anyway,..the people will taste the grit in some of those hot dogs,.and will not say anything to you,..but will go to another stand instead of yours,..thus your stand (site),..will loose eaters,(lookers),..not to many people like grit in there dogs,..!! There is a bigger customer base looking for cleaner hot dogs,..then people wanting gritty ones,..no what I mea More..

    Yeah, you might lose great advertisers like this:

    Advertisers
    See Funny Videos!
    Meet Hot Chicks!
    Hot Videos!
    Meet Local Girls
    New Video Site
    Breaking News Vids
    Funny Videos!


    Definitely not worth sacrificing these great advertisers for some other principle like free expression!

    "
    Those are great advertisers!!,..lol,...hot chicks?,...
    what are you gay?,..or just got something against hot chicks,..lol"

    Do you have something wrong with being gay?

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  • Moderation is a necessary thing however censorship is disallowing a valid viewpoint. If you want to see censorship try making a video about Matt Sanchez and see how far you get. (not I am not referring to Weazle here someone else tried recently only to have it thrown out.) Funny how he's being protected from any criticism.

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  • DannytheTroll: "
    KingLawahaha: "Bullshit sites don't get good advertising,....lets say you own a hot dog stand,...and every other hot dog you cook you let one fall to the ground,.but yet you decide to sell it anyway,..the people will taste the grit in some of those hot dogs,.and will not say anything to you,..but will go to another stand instead of yours,..thus your stand (site),..will loose eaters,(lookers),..not to many people like grit in there dogs,..!! There is a bigger customer base looking for cleaner hot dogs,..then people wanting gritty ones,..no what I mean,its all about mone More..

    Yeah, you might lose great advertisers like this:

    Advertisers
    See Funny Videos!
    Meet Hot Chicks!
    Hot Videos!
    Meet Local Girls
    New Video Site
    Breaking News Vids
    Funny Videos!


    Definitely not worth sacrificing these great advertisers for some other principle like free expression!

    "
    Well, we know which part of the LiveLeak site you hang around in.

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  • Without some censorship of the absolute trolls and flamers and racists this comments section would look just like Youtube's -- 99.99% garbage.

    I prefer things the way they are here. Quality over quantity.

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  • Snore

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  • As Gawd notes there's a difference between censorship (disappearing someone's comments or account for their political views) and getting rid of troll/flame/racist spam.

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  • Bidon_Huile: "Snore"
    indeed, what we really need is a "whine filter".

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  • LL_Mimas: "
    desdinova: "Wow, you cant be serious with unmoderated comments. They look the way they do because the staff is moderating them, and they are still a travesty. Imagine if there was no moderation. It would be so much spam and flames that nobody would read the comments.

    On the contrary the comment section needs MORE moderation. Hell, I have probably flagged between 200 and 500 comments cause of racial slurs in my time here.

    Yesterday I spent 20 minutes just flagging comments in the comment section of a video with a black criminal. I feel sorry for the mod that had to go More..
    On the contrary i thank you for taking the time to flag them. It helps out."
    So you were the one that had to go through them all? You got my sympathy man. Cant be fun.

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  • Ignorance must not prevail!

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