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Our silence on US torture looks like approval

IN 1957, the French journalist Henri Alleg was tortured by the French in Algeria. In The Question, the famous book that he wrote about his experiences, he described the following ordeal. He was laid out over a wooden plank, his head wrapped in a rag and positioned beneath a tap, which was then turned on.

"The rag was soaked rapidly. Water flowed everywhere: in my mouth, in my nose, all over my More..


Added: Nov 2 2007   In: education

By: Interloper  Australia

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  • well if its like that reporter who did it the other day,i say go for it...ask John McCain,if he would have rather went threw what he did in veitnam,or that

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "radgy" (R) United States

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  • Yeah it would suck to be "water boarded" but Id take that over the drills, broken bones and gun shots.

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "Darock" (R)

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  • I would propose that all our Government Officials that condone such tactics undergo such first themselves. This ensures its complete effectiveness as a useful means to extrapolate information.

    But I digress! We'd simply learn that a great majority of them are hypocritical closet homosexuals, and we already know that now don't we?

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "cobalt187" (R) Portugal

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  • Quoted comment by radgy: well if its like that reporter who did it the other day,i say go for it...ask John McCain,if he would have rather went threw what he did in veitnam,or that

    I'm not a bad guy (read terrorist), but I'd rather fight and kill americans than being captured as a potential terrorist, because I know that I'll be tortured.

    Congrats on making your country a safer place.

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "rumplestiltskin" (R) Sweden

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  • Quoted comment by rumplestiltskin:
    Quoted comment by radgy: well if its like that reporter who did it the other day,i say go for it...ask John McCain,if he would have rather went threw what he did in veitnam,or that

    I'm not a bad guy (read terrorist), but I'd rather fight and kill americans than being captured as a potential terrorist, because I know that I'll be tortured.

    Congrats on making your country a safer place.

    Well ypu probably will never have to fight and kill Amercans. But one day i'm sure Americans will fight and die for you..

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "razorwired" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by rumplestiltskin:
    Quoted comment by radgy: well if its like that reporter who did it the other day,i say go for it...ask John McCain,if he would have rather went threw what he did in veitnam,or that

    I'm not a bad guy (read terrorist), but I'd rather fight and kill americans than being captured as a potential terrorist, because I know that I'll be tortured.

    Congrats on making your country a safer place.

    naw,they are just mad,somebody is finally washing their face....why not try to fight kill Americans,you wont have a problem to begin with,hmmm?

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "radgy" (R) United States

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  • I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "death2believers" (R) United Kingdom (UK/GB)

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  • Quoted comment by death2believers: I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    Well said.

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "Interloper" (R) Australia

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  • I wish someone like Mc Cain wispers in GWB ear: torture is terrorism azzhole!

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "roosterbooster" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by death2believers: I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    And you my friend should not surrender so easily.."we will not win the war on terror."??? All wars can be won. They just have to be fought well and without your kind of thinking.

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "razorwired" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by razorwired:
    Quoted comment by death2believers: I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    And you my friend should not surrender so easily.."we will not win the war on terror."??? All wars can be won. They just have to be fought well and without your kind of thinking.

    War on Terror is a mere campaign slogan no more.. Everyone knows its bullshit! GWB would have received some respect had he waged war on Iraq FOR PERSONAL REASONS campaign... Why not war on Hunger, Aids, illiteracy.. We should wage war on bullshit perhaps water board GWB!

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "roosterbooster" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by razorwired:
    Quoted comment by death2believers: I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    And you my friend should not surrender so easily.."we will not win the war on terror."??? All wars can be won. They just have to be fought well and without your kind of thinking.

    you just still don't get this one do you. Let me explain. Wars are won on the battlefield, in the skys, and on the water, basically you can triumph when you feel your enemy has surrendered or has been defeated. You my friend are trying to win a war, against the hearts and minds of most of the world. Yes you may hate it but this is the reality of things.
    Your films, television, the war in Iraq, your iresponsible actions against the enviroment, all these have a bearing on how others perceive your country. You are making enemies and you don't even know it! You will not win as you are making the world recruit everyday more attackers against your way of life and government. Never before has so many people (mostly muslims) felt more strongly about the subject of america.
    Tell me when it's over, so I can watch the film!

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "death2believers" (R) United Kingdom (UK/GB)

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  • Quoted comment by roosterbooster:
    Quoted comment by razorwired:
    Quoted comment by death2believers: I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    And you my friend should not surrender so easily.."we will not win the war on terror."??? All wars can be won. They just have to be fought well and without your kind of thinking.

    War on Terror is a mere campaign slogan no more.. Everyone knows its bullshit! GWB would have received some respect had he waged war on Iraq FOR PERSONAL REASONS campaign... Why not war on Hunger, Aids, illiteracy.. We should wage war on bullshit perhaps water board GWB!

    hear hear

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "death2believers" (R) United Kingdom (UK/GB)

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  • Quoted comment by death2believers:
    Quoted comment by razorwired:
    Quoted comment by death2believers: I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    And you my friend should not surrender so easily.."we will not win the war on terror."??? All wars can be won. They just have to be fought well and without your kind of thinking.

    you just still don't get this one do you. Let me explain. Wars are won on the battlefield, in the skys, and on the water, basically you can triumph when you feel your enemy has surrendered or has been defeated. You my friend are trying to win a war, against the hearts and minds of most of the world. Yes you may hate it but this is the reality of things.
    Your films, television, the war in Iraq, your iresponsible actions against the enviroment, all these have a bearing on how others perceive your country. You are making enemies and you don't even know it! You will not win as you are making the world recruit everyday more attackers against your way of life and government. Never before has so many people (mostly muslims) felt more strongly about the subject of america.
    Tell me when it's over, so I can watch the film!

    Actually I know more of war and sacrifice,(both personal and that of others) than any man should have to. I've seen the absolute best and worst, this world has to offer. And to believe that if Americans come home and withdraw from Iraq and Afgan, will make the rest of the love us, well thats just an extrordinarily blind veiw of reallity. Europe has already been infiltrated by Islamic extremist whom threaten violence if not allowed to build mosques on every square mile of London. It is you that need to wake up and realize, some things are worth fighting for. If you will not stand for yourself, your country, or your family.....well then there is nothing worth standing for then is there? Islam hated the west long before Iraq, and they will continue to hate us long after. How many more bus bombings and hijackings have to happen in your back yard until you realise. How many more friends and family must you lose to realise. They have no interest in being your friend and have no intrest in sharing this world with you. They want a world without western culture.

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "razorwired" (R) United States

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  • Quoted comment by razorwired:
    Quoted comment by death2believers: I wish all you "americans" will get over yourselves, you are fed so much crap from day 1 ,you seem to live in a totally different world. Your country should stop making films that have happy endings with americans winning the day and saving the world. That sort of thing gives you a false sense of security. Your country is what I would call superficial. we will not win a war on terror, so get over it! Torture in any language is bad news.

    And you my friend should not surrender so easily.."we will not win the war on terror."??? All wars can be won. They just have to be fought well and without your kind of thinking.

    "war on Terror" is a slogan. No more. One cannot have a war on a technique. two things must be done to combat terrorists. One: We have to acnowledge that it's largely a law enforcement issue. We need agents on the ground, ones that speak the native languages and know the culture. We also need to use lawfull survelence techniques more effectively. Assualting the Bill Of Rights is not the way to go. Secondly we need to address the reasons people take up arms against us. Just sending out a person like the recently "retired" Karen Hughes who knew nothing about middle easter culture, is not a good approach.

    Posted Nov-2-2007 by "Yukkione" (R) United States

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