Until you invent a time machine and go back and film the big bang, there will always be faith in a "creator".
The thing is, you cannot say with absolute certainty that there is no God, because that would mean you know everything, which would in effect make YOU God and ruin your arguement.
Quoted comment by Spudmonkey: faith based schools here in the UK will soon be gone, I can't see any kind of religious revolution happening here any time soon.
We are a nation of athiests, agnostics and non practicing Christians.
Quoted comment by Spudmonkey: faith based schools here in the UK will soon be gone, I can't see any kind of religious revolution happening here any time soon.
We are a nation of athiests, agnostics and non practicing Christians.
What exactly IS a non-practicing Christian?
many call themselves Christian (probably because they were christened) and will say that they believe in the story of christ but other than that, christianity plays zero part in their life and they do not live that life via any religious teachings or laws.
Quoted comment by Belatucadros: Until you invent a time machine and go back and film the big bang, there will always be faith in a "creator".
The thing is, you cannot say with absolute certainty that there is no God, because that would mean you know everything, which would in effect make YOU God and ruin your arguement.
You can't say anything with absolute certainty. Do you believe in elfs? fairies? a teapot orbiting mars?
The point is: where is the evidence? There is no evidence for god other than the words of people which have spoken about different gods for thousands of years. Everyone is an atheist with respect to 99.9% of gods.
Just wait for the creationist arguments of irreducible complexity, missing links and it's "Just a theory". Everyone one of these is an argument from ignorance.
Religionistas have been gaining power thru the republican party since the late 70's which culminated in the election and re-election of bush/cheney. Their power is actually waning as the true power elites of the repubs lose power and start to abandon the kooks of the religious right. This is a culture war that has been ongoing in the US long before the remnants washed up on the shores of the UK. Welcome to the New World Order where peace is war and love is hate and double-think and thought-crimes rule the day.
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them . . . . To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies %u2014 all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.[1]"
Quoted comment by Belatucadros: Until you invent a time machine and go back and film the big bang, there will always be faith in a "creator".
The thing is, you cannot say with absolute certainty that there is no God, because that would mean you know everything, which would in effect make YOU God and ruin your arguement.
I like to think dead babies are the ultimate example the lack of god, mass rapings, texas, Birmingham, Cancer. Generally suggest god aint round
Tell me this, How do you not believe in G-d? Who programmed you to talk through ur mouth, see through ur eyes, think and have emotions while there are people that do not have these things (deaf, dumb & blind etc). Maybe monkeys act like humans because they were turned (cursed) into monkeys while they were human. Why do people suggest that Humans only have to come from Monkeys why can't it be the other way around? What is science. Something that is known and proven again and again. Do we as humans know everything there is outthere? ofcourse not, so why are you trying to justify something you do not know with science, when sciene in itself is limited. I dont know about your fantasies but i am 100 percent sure that i didnt evolve from no monkeys MANNNN!
Quoted comment by inexplicable718: Tell me this, How do you not believe in G-d? Who programmed you to talk through ur mouth, see through ur eyes, think and have emotions while there are people that do not have these things (deaf, dumb & blind etc). Maybe monkeys act like humans because they were turned (cursed) into monkeys while they were human. Why do people suggest that Humans only have to come from Monkeys why can't it be the other way around? What is science. Something that is known and proven again and again. Do we as humans know everything there is outthere? ofcourse not, so why are you trying to justify something you do not know with science, when sciene in itself is limited. I dont know about your fantasies but i am 100 percent sure that i didnt evolve from no monkeys MANNNN!
you behave as if the monkey is less civilised than man and that it is something to be ashamed of.
If a monkey was capable of intelligent thgought, what do you think they'd make of your false icon and mass slaughter in its name?
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HE he Warren said "Mass Debate" twice ..hehe
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Sirzooky" (R)
evolution did not end with us growing thumbs,thats why our traditional religions are all crumbling.BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER RELEVANT :)
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "technoboy" (B)
look up the Bonobo. them some smart apes
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "repost" (R)
Until you invent a time machine and go back and film the big bang, there will always be faith in a "creator".
The thing is, you cannot say with absolute certainty that there is no God, because that would mean you know everything, which would in effect make YOU God and ruin your arguement.
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Belatucadros" (R)
faith based schools here in the UK will soon be gone, I can't see any kind of religious revolution happening here any time soon.
We are a nation of athiests, agnostics and non practicing Christians.
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Spudmonkey" Premium
Lol.
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Geography_Teacher" (R)
We are a nation of athiests, agnostics and non practicing Christians.
What exactly IS a non-practicing Christian?
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Belatucadros" (R)
We are a nation of athiests, agnostics and non practicing Christians.
What exactly IS a non-practicing Christian?
many call themselves Christian (probably because they were christened) and will say that they believe in the story of christ but other than that, christianity plays zero part in their life and they do not live that life via any religious teachings or laws.
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Spudmonkey" Premium
The thing is, you cannot say with absolute certainty that there is no God, because that would mean you know everything, which would in effect make YOU God and ruin your arguement.
You can't say anything with absolute certainty. Do you believe in elfs? fairies? a teapot orbiting mars?
The point is: where is the evidence? There is no evidence for god other than the words of people which have spoken about different gods for thousands of years. Everyone is an atheist with respect to 99.9% of gods.
Just wait for the creationist arguments of irreducible complexity, missing links and it's "Just a theory". Everyone one of these is an argument from ignorance.
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Geography_Teacher" (R)
Religionistas have been gaining power thru the republican party since the late 70's which culminated in the election and re-election of bush/cheney. Their power is actually waning as the true power elites of the repubs lose power and start to abandon the kooks of the religious right. This is a culture war that has been ongoing in the US long before the remnants washed up on the shores of the UK. Welcome to the New World Order where peace is war and love is hate and double-think and thought-crimes rule the day.
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them . . . . To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies %u2014 all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.[1]"
Orwell is still ahead of his time!
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "gswifty" (R)
If that's the culmination of evolution than God is certainly a disappointment!
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "gswifty" (R)
The thing is, you cannot say with absolute certainty that there is no God, because that would mean you know everything, which would in effect make YOU God and ruin your arguement.
I like to think dead babies are the ultimate example the lack of god, mass rapings, texas, Birmingham, Cancer. Generally suggest god aint round
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "warren25" (R)
Tell me this, How do you not believe in G-d? Who programmed you to talk through ur mouth, see through ur eyes, think and have emotions while there are people that do not have these things (deaf, dumb & blind etc). Maybe monkeys act like humans because they were turned (cursed) into monkeys while they were human. Why do people suggest that Humans only have to come from Monkeys why can't it be the other way around? What is science. Something that is known and proven again and again. Do we as humans know everything there is outthere? ofcourse not, so why are you trying to justify something you do not know with science, when sciene in itself is limited. I dont know about your fantasies but i am 100 percent sure that i didnt evolve from no monkeys MANNNN!
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "inexplicable718" (R)
one of the most intelligent debaters on this site
on Youtube as well
keep it up
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "lasrever" Premium
you behave as if the monkey is less civilised than man and that it is something to be ashamed of.
If a monkey was capable of intelligent thgought, what do you think they'd make of your false icon and mass slaughter in its name?
Humans aint no relative of mine MANNNNNNN
Posted Jun-11-2008 by "Spudmonkey" Premium