Obama insists on indefinite detention of Americans
Think that President Obama will stand by his word and veto the
legislation that will allow the government to detain American citizens
without charge or trial? Think again....continues below...
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Jan 1st, 2012 RT
The Obama administration has insisted that the president will veto
the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, a bill that
passed through the Senate last week. Under the legislation, the United
States of America is deemed a battlefield and Americans suspected of
committing a terrorism offense can be held without trial and tortured
indefinitely. Despite the grave consequences for citizens and the direct
assault on the US Constitution, the act managed to make it through both
halves of Congress but President Obama says he won’t let it become a
law.
According to Senator Carl Levin, however, Americans should
be a bit more concerned about what the president’s actual intentions
are. Levin, who sits on the Armed Services Committee as chairman, has
revealed to Congress that the Obama administration influenced the
wording of the act and shot down text that would have saved American
citizens from the indefinite imprisonment and suspension of habeas
corpus.
(Click image above for video of Senator Levin's speech)
Senator Levin told Congress recently that under the original wording of the
National Defense Authorization Act, American citizens were excluded from
the provision that allowed for detention. Once Obama’s officials saw
the text though, says Levin, “the administration asked us to remove
the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not
be subject to this section.
”Specifically, the section that Obama asked to be reworded was Section 1031 of the NDAA FY2012, which says that "any person who has committed a belligerent act" could be held indefinitely.
“It
was the administration that asked us to remove the very language which
we had in the bill which passed the committee…we removed it at the
request of the administration,” said Levin. “It was the administration which asked us to remove the very language the absence of which is now objected to.
”John
Wood of Change.org writes that President Obama proposed a veto of
Section 1032 of the NDAA, which does not pertain to the detention of
American citizens. Rather, that section deals with the use of the US
military in taking custody of suspected criminals. Section 1031, which
actually deals with the indefinite imprisonment of Americans, remains
not only unopposed by the Obama administration, but the president has
made sure that the law specifically includes Americans, urging Congress
to redraft the legislation with increasingly confusing wording that
makes the legalization detrimental to America.
President Obama could sign off on the legislation as early as this December 13 if he
chooses not to exercise his veto power. The bill, which includes
budgetary provisions for the US military, comes at a price-tag several
billion dollars cheaper than the president had asked for of Congress.
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http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detention-defense-levin-635/
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December 31, 2011 aclu.org
WASHINGTON – President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law today. The statute contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision. While President Obama issued a signing statement saying he had “serious reservations” about the provisions, the statement only applies to how his administration would use the authorities granted by the NDAA, and would not affect how the law is interpreted by subsequent administrations. The White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the NDAA, but reversed course shortly before Congress voted on the final bill.
“President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law,” said Anthony D. Romero, ACLU executive director. “The statute is particularly dangerous because it has no temporal or geographic limitations, and can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield. The ACLU will fight worldwide detention authority wherever we can, be it in court, in Congress, or internationally.”
Under the Bush administration, similar claims of worldwide detention authority were used to hold even a U.S. citizen detained on U.S. soil in military custody, and many in Congress now assert that the NDAA should be used in the same way again. The ACLU believes that any military detention of American citizens or others within the United States is unconstitutional and illegal, including under the NDAA. In addition, the breadth of the NDAA’s detention authority violates international law because it is not limited to people captured in the context of an actual armed conflict as required by the laws of war.
“We are incredibly disappointed that President Obama signed this new law even though his administration had already claimed overly broad detention authority in court,” said Romero. “Any hope that the Obama administration would roll back the constitutional excesses of George Bush in the war on terror was extinguished today. Thankfully, we have three branches of government, and the final word belongs to the Supreme Court, which has yet to rule on the scope of detention authority. But Congress and the president also have a role to play in cleaning up the mess they have created because no American citizen or anyone else should live in fear of this or any future president misusing the NDAA’s detention authority.”
The bill also contains provisions making it difficult to transfer suspects out of military detention, which prompted FBI Director Robert Mueller to testify that it could jeopardize criminal investigations. It also restricts the transfers of cleared detainees from the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay to foreign countries for resettlement or repatriation, making it more difficult to close Guantanamo, as President Obama pledged to do in one of his first acts in office.
Original post:
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law
Added: Jan-1-2012 Occurred On: Jan-1-2012
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No worries, 'Ol Bluegums is looking out for us all!
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByLickMyDuck (546.60)

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Say no more. He really DOES hate America. Get ready for a 2A assault time now.
He will have to appoint a new AG since Holder is laughing stock. If this happens, get ready.
No, i am not a horse with blinders. The Obama cluster fuck is too huge for a comment or even one book. Absolute most worthless POTUS ever, bar none.
I am old and never have i seen a regime that actively interfered with state and American Constitutional rights the way he has. He should have been impeached a year ago, G More..
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByBeinrich_Bimmler (557.10) Beinrich_Bimmler View Channel Send Message
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@Beinrich_Bimmler You may be old, that would explain the problems with short term memory.
G.W. Bush introduced the Patriot act, allowing detention without trial, water boarding, intercepting phone calls & emails of US citizens without a warrant, & set up Guantanamo as a place to hold prisoners without trial.
Posted Jan-1-2012 Byjimbo111 (429.60) 
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@jimbo111 Just a couple of things I wanted to mention about your reply to BeinrichB.
He made a very general (accurate) statement about the idiocy imposed on us by the current Potus.
For that you call him out with the age thing and bring up GB and the Patriot Act.
PPPfffftttttt!
Now while we are off topic,
You are correct, that travesty (Patriot Act) was unleashed upon us by GB. However at least he had 9/11 to blame that stupid idea on.
On the other hand Obamy could have let it fade a More..
Posted Jan-1-2012 Byaussite (1867.30) 
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@aussite Agree with your "off topic" points, however BeinrichB stated that Obama was the most worthless President in history. He's only continuing on from GWB (or should that be Cheney), who started the whole mess.
Obama though ineffective is at least good intentioned, GWB/Cheney not so much.
Posted Jan-1-2012 Byjimbo111 (429.60) 
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@jimbo111 I just don't see where you come up with the good intention part. Telling us that GB was an asshole and that he would change and correct all that and then doing nothing but continue GB's policies seems to me to fall into the category of lying.
If you don't have any use for Bush/Cheney how can you find any common ground with this current fool.
Christ man , he makes Bush /Cheney look like amateurs in the fuck up department. He has done very little to change anything GB left behind More..
Posted Jan-1-2012 Byaussite (1867.30) 
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@jimbo111 Bush responded to 9/11. It was on his watch and he had to do something. BUT - the Patriot act was explicitly written with a sunset clause. Bush is gone for 3 years now, have they let it expire? Of course not, they've renewed it TWICE. Obama had the authority to reverse many of the anti-constitutional things Bush did, but he hasn't and he won't - he's made it WORSE.
Posted Jan-13-2012 ByBeinrich_Bimmler (557.10) Beinrich_Bimmler View Channel Send Message
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I wonder what the history books will say "China and Russia started World War III with America" knowing damn well that the U.S. Government ( not the American people ) is instigating things
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByWelcometotherealworld (45.32) 
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WTF?! This wasn't in any of the 'Hope and Change' pamflets!!
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByRob8729 (867.42) 
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You don't see Obama making threats against Russia or China, big bully only targets the small kid. Let's see what happens when the chinese repo men comes to america.
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Why does Russian TV (RT) never have news stories about Russia.
Is it Putin's propaganda organ?
Posted Jan-1-2012 Bygovett (1012.40) govett View Channel Send Message
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The USA, where democracy was nourished & flourished, now another Autocracy.
Just when the Middle East is finally showing the first signs of democracy, the USA is showing the first signs of dictatorship.
"Hope & Change" became More of the same.
Posted Jan-1-2012 Byjimbo111 (429.60) 
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@jimbo111
Wheres the signs of democracy in the ME?
Islamic extremists taking over these countries will bring democracy?
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByFreejay (4145.46) 
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@Freejay Don't know if you've seen the news recently about the Arab spring.
Democracies aren't won easily, the French revolution involved a lot of chop chop, the USA excluded women & minorities. Version 1 is not going to be perfect.
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The Islamic extremists merely abuse democratic principles to get into power.
After that, Sharia law is in, democracy is out!
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@Freejay
that American foreign policy is working great right?
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByJihadKiller1s1k (9427.28) 
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Under Obama....no.
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Internet Interaction has been declared Anti American by the Commander in Chief.
First they came for the Live Leak Admins, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Live Leak Admin.
Then they came for the Your Say Posters, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Your Say Poster.
Then they came for the Live Leak Bloggers, and I did not speak out --
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Then they came for me --
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Nowhere to run, no where to hide....
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@vax2002
Like the Warriors we will make it home
Restore the Republic
Ron Paul 2012
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByWelcometotherealworld (45.32) 
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@Welcometotherealworld wait..chris christie will be V.P. for romney...its over, the quacks can go back to your 'hope'...whats the definition of 'hope'?
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Yes the Constitution was written by quacks got it. My definition of hope is when there is nothing left and that's what's going to happen to America if Paul doesn't get elected so vote Romney and watch America decline more. Hate to say "We told you so"
Posted Jan-1-2012 ByWelcometotherealworld (45.32) 
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Wonderful......
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Terrific way to start the new year...
Posted Jan-1-2012 Bystrideninja (260.78) 
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What kind of drugs is this guy smoking?
US going to war with Russia? ROFL
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