The truth of the Israeli Military Occupation of Palestine
The Checkpoint -
Terror, Power, and Cruelty
Oded Na’aman
"You yell at them in a kind of Arabic-Hebrew: ‘Get back.’ And they don’t
pay attention. So you start to raise your weapon as if you are really
going to do something with it, and everyone there are women and children
and they start to cry, and they are also yelling, and it’s hot and you
feel like in another second you’re going to spray them with bullets."
Just a tiny excerpt for an exceptionally well written piece by a former Israeli soldier.
http://www.bostonreview.net/BR37.4/oded_naaman_israeli_defense_forces_palestinians_occupation.php

Added: Sep-15-2012
By: DEADBEEF
In: Other Middle East
Tags: Israeli, institutional, cruelty, and, random, persecution
Location: Israel (load item map)
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In: Other Middle East
Tags: Israeli, institutional, cruelty, and, random, persecution
Location: Israel (load item map)
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Yawn
Another greedy Leftist moron trying to sell his book by sensationalizing things.
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByFreejay (3854.16) 
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Wow the Left do not even suprise me anymore
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByTyler Buglar (7.00) Tyler Buglar View Channel Send Message
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lame translation.
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByMisoSoup (120.20) 
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What are they doing with guns in someone else's land? Insane!!
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByPhunnguy (12.80) 
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@Phunnguy
If you'll ever pay a visit in Israel you might notice we are not talking here about total different countries (Israel and the WB), with ocean between them...
I live in Tel-Aviv metropolin in central Israel and can see very close and clear the hills of the WB, only 15 minutes driving away......................
The Jewish settlments policy is a wrong one, but the IDF presence over there is also due to the main fear the WB might become like Gaza (Which Israel left in 2005), with radic More..
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byaydeo (6063.38) 
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@aydeo
So I post a careful, logical story by an Israeli Jew who worked as a checkpoint guard and you bounce up with a 'more sides to this story' 'rebuttal'
What is your personal story Aydeo?
P.S. I was pointed to this piece by Bruce Schneier. Not exactly a renowned anti-Zionist.
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByDEADBEEF (4171.46) 
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@aydeo Agreed! and I very much respect your response by not attacking me. I just can't understand being armed in someone else's land with rights to kill unarmed civilians. Then again ... who am I to talk ?... not that I support the situation our serviceman are put into to play policeman over some ghost stories
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByPhunnguy (12.80) 
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@DEADBEEF
Personal story...???
Your item itself is legit, and if you will really bother to read what I wrote here you will notice that quite good.
My reply above was to his comment, refferring to this situation as 2 different countries (Like Australia taking over NZ), somthing which many people from the outside tend to imagine...
Do you denounce the other side I brought, do you claim you know there isn't any possibilty for rockets to be launched into Tel Aviv from the WB, in case the IDF t More..
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byaydeo (6063.38) 
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@aydeo
Look carefully again at my posting. Did I add any spin? Did I do anything but report the article with a 'teaser' quoted exactly from the article to attract interest.
I posted this because Bruce Schneier thought it was notable. You did not come into the equation no matter how much you hope you did.
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByDEADBEEF (4171.46) 
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truth is the bible is older than the koran and in the bible the land was given to the Israelis by God... argue over the existence of god or not is your problem fact is one book is older than the other so its a "we were here first thing"... palestinians has no claim
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byaa316 (608.42) aa316 View Channel Send Message
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And you spin faster than a Lamborgini engine...lol
You know the fact the Palestinians are joining the global Muslim Intifada over that stupid film doesn't look quite good, so the best way to deal with that is uploading (once more) all the items which the anti-Israel Hasbara unit in LL usually uploads (Israel is a terror state,USS Liberty or some stupid settler or IDF soldiers saying stupid things about Arabs...).
And for your item itself- The checkpoints are a must, otherwise there will be o More..
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byaydeo (6063.38) 
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@aydeo
I take it you haven't actually read the article. It explains nicely why the checkpoints exist - as compared to your tin-foil-hat explanation.
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByDEADBEEF (4171.46) 
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@DEADBEEF Yeah, none of us are going to read that one sided bullshit, thanks for your attempt to get us to feel for your plea, so sad for you fucking hypocrites, zion my ass!
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByMisoSoup (120.20) 
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@MisoSoup
I take it your comments is Internetese for fingers in ears and wailing "Nyah Nyah I can't hear you!"
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByDEADBEEF (4171.46) 
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@DEADBEEF Take it as you will, the israelis are NOT innocent of violence, nor do we care to host your nazi regime any longer, if it were up to me, aid would have ended years ago, like in 67
Posted Sep-16-2012 ByMisoSoup (120.20) 
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well you stupid fucking jews, maybe you should stop illegally taking other peoples land then maybe this will all stop. oh wait, then there wouldnt be an israel any more.
Posted Sep-15-2012 Bymaxwellthebest (760.10) 
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Maybe you should go get some education little boy.
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByFreejay (3854.16) 
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@maxwellthebest
The issue is giving land to Arabs. Not one inch!
Posted Sep-15-2012 Bycuratorman (123.70) curatorman View Channel Send Message
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@diggerozzie
Nothing was stolen liar....you also need to go get some education boy!
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByFreejay (3854.16) 
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@Freejay you robbed the palestinians of their land through force in 1948.
maybe not you personally but your grandfather maybe
Posted Sep-15-2012 Bymaxwellthebest (760.10) 
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Why do people think it's cool to repost already published news stories on liveleak? What a waste. Just another moron trying to push his misguided position.
Posted Sep-15-2012 Bypls53 (193.74) 
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cheese
Posted Sep-15-2012 BySpeckFettGulag (1116.90)

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Go hate on ancient throw-backs in Lebanon, Syria, egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi where the people all kill eachother and care less. Israel has a civilized nation to protect. Enough of this liberal brainwash from people who have never even been to Israel and distort facts told to them by their communist professors.
Posted Sep-15-2012 Bycuratorman (123.70) curatorman View Channel Send Message
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You know, after watching the Muslim assholes protest, and kill over a film...I'M FOR ISRAEL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byfotoman4u2 (3440.80) 
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@fotoman4u2 when were you not for Isreal?
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byvargas456 (105.20) 
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@fotoman4u2 That's funny, because you have ALWAYS been for Israel.
Even when they are caught red handed.
Is this your lame attempt at propaganda?
Posted Sep-16-2012 Bycastanza128 (620.02) 
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stop the occupation of gaza and things will ease
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByBlix (75.00) Blix View Channel Send Message
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@Blix You're a fool if you believe that! They don't want Palestine, they want the destruction of Israel, nothing less. If the terrorists, but down their guns, there would be peace, if Israel put down it's guns, there would be no more Israel and several million more dead Jews.
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byagc_cannon (64.28) 
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He knows that...and has the same genocidal aspirations.
Posted Sep-15-2012 ByFreejay (3854.16) 
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@Blix Gaza is on its own. Egypt treats them worse than we do - start there. We still give them free electricity.
Posted Sep-15-2012 Bypls53 (193.74) 
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@Blix Go hate somewhere else!
Posted Sep-15-2012 Byfotoman4u2 (3440.80) 
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@pls53 When they get ill they go to an Israeli Hospitals and not Egyptian Hospitals.
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