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if its legal to open carry they have nothing on him... this is harassment ... publics ignorance about open carry is their problem
You as a private citizen should have every right that the officer stopping you has, including the right to carry a gun and film each other.
love this stuff (when it's done right)
Makes you realise how cool some the laws are in the states - a legally carried firearm cannot be sufficient reason to stop a citizen.
And unless suspected of committing a felon, you cannot be stopped by the police - it has to be a consensual encounter.
In the UK we have no such rights RE: stopped by police - they can stop and speak to you at any time, and if you refuse that can be treated as grounds for arrest.
@deusvolt That's the catch 22 though, you can't just assume that everyone is legal.
@jfm8561 , wow you havent heard a little thing called "presumption of innocence".
@turnerj41 I could never be that naive...
...I support cops, but sometimes they can throw their weight around illegally. But this guy had the power of knowing the law to back them off. Good for him.
I love when people know there rights. We need to stand up for our rights. The police needs to get eduacated in the law. I am not pro anything but human rights.
The camera is for his own protection. Just like the officer has a mic and dash cam. Maine is a no id state, open carry is legal without a permit. You have to have a reason to stop and detain someone. Detaining means he can't leave. The officer is detaining him as soon as he says he can't leave. He does not have to show ID, because he isn't suspected of a crime, and you don't have to give id if you don't want to. He does everything in this video correctly. Ive met him before, hes very smart and s More..peaks well. And is fighting for rights unlike the rest of the sheep who call him a idiot. Less..
@USA77 People want to be fucked until it actually cuts into their personal space..then they cry like bitches..but its too late then.
@USA77 The Supreme Court of Canada has defined 'detained' as either physical or psychological restraint. An individual has only to believe he has no option but to comply with an officer's orders to be considered detained. In order to detain anyone, an officer must have articulable cause, and is not allowed to act on a hunch. RIDE stops and seatbelt checks are permitted only by the Oakes Test, and even then, there is no law in Canada that requires a driver to answer a single question about dri More..nking and driving. The burden of proof lies solely with the Crown (police) and if they can't establish a reasonable suspicion that the driver is impaired, they cannot demand a breath sample. The cards are actually stacked against the police. It's the yahoo that talks too much that usually provides the police with all the evidence they need. Less..
@USA77 , in AZ I believe you must identify yourself by name and address, but no issued id is necc. I thought that was close to the bare minimum anywhere? the cop doesnt have to describe what he is investigating, he only has to articulate that on the report.
@maddog2681 The officer also took his weapon. He has no other choice but to stay in order to get his property back. I know id be some pissed if a police officer randomly stopped me and took my weapon from me "for his safety". What about my safety? Ive just been disarmed by a man whom is armed. Doesn't sit right with me.
@turnerj41 Personally i would give my permit (I Conceal carry) to the officer. But its his choice. Every state has its own rules on ID, as far as i know. I looked up the laws for my state because I carry both concealed and openly.
Police really need to know the law before making fools of themselves.
@Devastation99 they do know it, because they make it up as they go, until they run into someone who knows the real law, lol
Seems to know his shit....
@fotoman4u2 well...he is a law student who has obviously been doing his homework while obviously, and quite exectedly, the cops are stupid, arrogant, and acting in a criminal manner, and either forgot what they were taught in the academy, or never learned anything except how to cover up that little dick of theirs. He now has grounds for a lawsuit since that cop openly admitted that the illegal stop and violations of this persons lawful travel, are common and routine.
that was refreshing, means nothing if he didnt file a complaint on the officer
Good command of the law, no hesitation. I'm sure his adrenaline was jacked sky high, he remained fairly reasonable.
@joelhar You mean completely reasonable.
@DontFeedMyDog A few minor slip-ups, so not completely.
@joelhar All that matters is you're on the side of the law, not the police officers. cheers :)
Good thing people didnt call in saying someone was eating an ice cream cone..then he might have to get an ID and be completely checked out because the cop doesnt know him and he might be a criminal.
they dont seem to know the law.
@_I5HY_ Over here, if you find ONE cop that actually has a fucking clue about the law, I will buy you a beer.
@splicer i can see myself going thirsty then :)
@_I5HY_ fuck it...I buy you one anyway just because you gave me some hope in your people.
@splicer haha cheers :)
And that is the real problem with the video.
Common practice does not make it right.. Awesome stance. Good lesson to be learned by LEO's everywhere.
Awesome... like a BOSSSS!
@BaiKya cops are incompetent without measure when it comes to handling firearms.
Once his supervisor showed up his behaviour changed. How about that.
@Ihavecrabs Because with the camera there, and it recording the obvious violations of the cop, if the supervisior hadnt shut the idiot cop down, this could be taken to court as organized criminal behavior without the "oops he made a mistake and we will train him further" bullshit cops get off the hook with all the time.
The Pine Tree State :-D
i love how he knew his rights but he kinda was a dick about it.
@lonewolf01 You think if he didnt the cop wouldn't have been a bigger dick? You have to be a stern in order to protect yourself and your rights. One miss spoken word or slip of the tongue and you could be charged with something. If he did hand over his ID or information to the police officer, arrest or no arrest, its going to be put in a file and could come back to haunt him one day I.E. used against him. The 5th amendment is a lot like our 2nd its there for your safety.
Theres no way around it when the police are intruding on your rights. You have to draw a line and refuse to back down from it.
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