Submitted by Charles High Smith from Of Two Minds
What's Your Favorite "On the Ground" Recession Indicator?
Beautifully maintained trophy cars are being dumped for cash. What does that say about the "real" economy?
Everybody has their own "on the ground" recession indicators: the mall parking lot, the tony restaurant that used to be packed every weekend, and so on.
I have two favorites: freight trains rumbling south down the main line of the West Coast and "sell your own car" used car lots.
The freight trains are self-explanatory: at the top of the housing bubble, they were loaded with flatcars of lumber. Now? A lot of empty flatcars and container flats. A lot. Yes, the official statistics indicate rising rail traffic, but they must mean one more car has a load in a 100-car train and there's only 20 empties. The freight trains I see are still running with beaucoup empty cars.
There may be some explanation of why this is so, but I can report that these trains pulled no empties in 2007.
"Sell your own car" lots reflect the "private market" for used cars. If you want to know what people are trading in for new cars, then go look at new car dealers' used lots. At the local Honda dealer, I saw a number of Lexus SUVs on their used lot; people trading down to save on gasoline?
I've sold a few cars myself at the local "sell your own car" lot, so I know it's reputable and a model that works for buyers and sellers. For a flat fee, you park your car on their lot and price it however you want. Potential buyers get to test-drive it, take it to their mechanic, etc. It's a big lot, so the selection of cars and prices is suggestive of larger trends--at least to me.
Back in 2009 at the initial depths of the recession, the used Toyotas and Hondas vanished and the lot filled with Volvos and other big-car-payment brands. I took this to reflect people were ditching their car payments and snapping up older reliable cars they could buy for cash and get another 100,000 miles out of.
I hadn't been by the lot in a while and what I saw astonished me. The lot was packed with "fun" cars and luxury brands: four recent-vintage Cooper-Minis were lined up (none sold in the week I monitored the lot). A cute yellow VW Beetle--another "fun" car-- was over by the Mercedes. Yes, Mercedes, and Porsches, all beautfully maintained.
For the first time in the two decades I've scanned this lot, it was chockful of luxury cars: a pristine black 2002 Porsche Boxter with low mileage that raised my blood pressure and sorely tempted me because it was "priced to sell"--and for a Scots-Irish-French tightwad, that's saying something; an equally beautiful Mercedes 500-series two seater, low mileage, brand-new in appearance; a fairly decent Jaguar; another pristine 300-series Mercedes, a classic, unbelievably well-maintained Porsche 911 (1991)-- the list goes on.
In the good old days, these "still look new" luxury cars would have been snapped up at these prices. But now they sit here, unsold, day after day.
Another class of "fun" car was also represented--the muscle car: a very clean recent vintage red Trans Am attracted onlookers in one corner of the lot.
Sellers can add comments to the sales tag, and on at least two of the luxury vehicles it was noted that the car had been their father's, one owner. Others indicated the original owner was selling.
If you know some car buffs, or you are one, then you know what these low-mileage super-clean luxury cars represent: they represent the lifetime achievement car for a guy, or the trophy car the rising exec takes out on the weekend. There is no other explanation for a 10-year old car to have 17,000 miles, or 33,000 miles--they were all garaged and enjoyed as a third or fourth car.
It seems Dad is getting too old to drive, or it's no longer feasible to ease into the low-slung Porsche, and so he's given it to one of his kids. And the kid drove it to the lot to turn into cold hard cash.
As for the "fun" cars: maybe they're still selling big numbers of new vehicles, but the glow of owning a mediocre-mileage car with no room for the dog or kids seems to be fading for existing owners. My sister-in-law spent a fortune having her Mini Cooper fixed last year, and our friend with a cutsy VW Beetle had a repair bill after a few years of ownership that could have bought a decent used car instead.
For whatever reason, "fun" cars that I never saw on the lot before are now there in abundance.
This is all anecdotal, of course, and wide open to interpretation. If you go to the techie-hipster favored neighborhoods in San Francisco, the tony cafes and restaurants are crowded: there's plenty of Web 2.0 money floating around. If you only look at these concentrations of talent and free-flowing investment capital, the economy looks like it's booming. Ditto if you try to book a table near the Opera on performance night: there's plenty of old money around that can spend $100 per dinner, too.
Once again, there were no older Toyotas or Hondas on the lot, only a few 2-year old models asking near-new prices. I interpret this thusly: older reliable cars that will last another five years without major expense are snapped up immediately, and superfluous "fun" cars and luxury trophy vehicles are being turned into cash.
When people are driving their pride and joy cars out of their pampered garages and selling them for cash, not trading them in for a new car or keeping them for pleasure, I think that's saying something about the "real" economy you won't find if you hang around Twitter HQ or the bejeweled Opera crowd.
You may intepret it differently, of course. That's the beauty of "on the ground" recession indicators.
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They keep telling us everything is fine, no worries, we'er comming out of the recession. Yeah right!
Posted Feb-29-2012 Bymarc1921 (1458.16) 
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@marc1921 my local dollar store is offering a layaway plan.
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByLwe5113 (370.20) 
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Marc, you are understating the government's claim. They say we've been out for 1 1/2 years.
"The National Bureau of Economic Research announced on 20 September 2010 that the 2008/2009 recession ended in June 2009, making it the longest recession since World War II."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession
Wiki's Source
http://www.nber.org/cycles/sept2010.html
Posted Feb-29-2012 Byjoe prole (1635.80) 
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@joe prole I belive that they are having a dream(lying) about this whole economy!
Posted Feb-29-2012 Bymarc1921 (1458.16) 
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@MB-UK And it's going to crash. They have set us upon this course.
Posted Feb-29-2012 Bymarc1921 (1458.16) 
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I called a half dozen construction companies in the local yellow pages. Most of them have disconnected phones now. In 2007 they were doing great.
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByLwe5113 (370.20) 
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Rise or decline in bed taxes from Emerald Coast tourist business.
Posted Feb-29-2012 Byjoe prole (1635.80) 
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@joe prole another panhandle resident?
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByAmusing (5219.48) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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the trophy cars to me say that the people who spent all there extra cash on a trophy car were not to bright to begin with. And to try to elude to Obama is to blame for a problem that manifested before he took office is off base. I make my living off the lumber industry and it got bad the summer before obama took office, but picked right back up the next year. If you remember he went on a east asian tour to promote importing american products. It worked so well that we can't even keep up with the More..
Posted Feb-29-2012 Bytrailertrashrnr (317.70) 
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Less crowded pubs and eatery's are a pretty good indicator of how the economy is doing.
Mad magazine sure called it right with that cover.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs when a Kid's humor mag gets it right and almost every other media outlet gets it totally wrong.
0bama's fault?
Yes it was.
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByDave556 (1948.66) 
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Good read, thanks! Though I would like to have seen you post the asking price beside the car, not that I'm shopping, just curious.
Posted Feb-29-2012 Bymytwocents (2365.86) 
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@mytwocents I thought the same thing!Ha! You are welcome sir.
Posted Feb-29-2012 Bymarc1921 (1458.16) 
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My indication is that I can't get a job offer after applying for ~100 employers.
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByEmrysM (1838.76) 
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Police are evicting squatters now instead of homeowners.
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByRob8729 (835.42) 
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who wants my 99 buick lesabre???
i drive a tundra now vroom vroom glug glug.
(i don't care how much gas costs trucks kick ass and i need it for work)
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByBongToTheFuture (500.74) 
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I right off nearly all my gas on my taxes, it's the governments money so I don't care how it costs.
and I need it for work
V8 JeeP
Posted Feb-29-2012 Bymytwocents (2365.86) 
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@mytwocents are you an african lion safari guide? ;)
yea i have a 5.7l v8 iforce it's fuckin sick.
Posted Feb-29-2012 ByBongToTheFuture (500.74) 
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My indicator is layoffs and pay cuts just recently at my company when for the last three years we had been riding high.
Posted Feb-29-2012 Byjpeterman57 (589.78) 
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Mine is the Bullshit coming from DC/The state on how it is getting better... Pumping up the markets, printing money and choosing what business win and killing those that oppose some higher sense of planned eco communist state.
The communists are just trying to pump this economy up enough for November and just hang the fuck on after that. If Obama wins we are screwed and kiss our freedom goodbye, but if he looses... Think about this, riots like we have never seen.... Not saying the alternativ More..
Posted Mar-1-2012 ByMAN_DOWN (109.74) 
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And to answer the post more directly after my RANT, sorry: quantity of empty commercial buildings. For lease / For Sale and more important... How old is the sign?
Posted Mar-1-2012 ByMAN_DOWN (109.74) 
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