Your government at work. Part two. Brought to you by the most transparent administration ever. --cd3

by Luke Rosiak, The Washington Times
Original Link:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/24/top-secret-what-food-stamps-buy/
Americans spend $80 billion each year financing food stamps for the poor, but the country has no idea where or how the money is spent.
Food stamps can be spent on goods ranging from candy to steak and are accepted at retailers from gas stations that primarily sell potato chips to fried-chicken restaurants. And as the amount spent on food stamps has more than doubled in recent years, the amount of food stamps laundered into cash has increased dramatically, government statistics show.
But the government won’t say which stores are doing the most business in food stamps, and even it doesn’t know what kinds of food those taxpayer dollars buy.
Coinciding with lobbying by convenience stores, the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program in conjunction with states, contends that disclosing how much each store authorized to accept benefits, known as the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), receives in taxpayer funds would amount to revealing trade secrets.
As a result, fraud is hard to track and the efficacy of the massive program is impossible to evaluate.
As the House debates the once-every-five-years farm bill, the majority of which goes to food stamps, there is a renewed and fervent call from a broad spectrum of camps that the information - some of the most high-dollar, frequently requested and closely held secrets of the government - be set free.
“We can’t release it based on federal rules. If it were up to us, I wouldn’t have a problem releasing the information. It’s taxpayer money,” saidTom Steinhauser with the division of benefit programs for the Virginia Department of Social Services.
The District said it would be illegal to tell the newspaper how many food stamp dollars were flowing to each local vendor, but first offered to sell The Washington Times the information for $125,000.
“Why don’t you just pay the charges? Your paper has a lot of money,” said David Umansky, spokesman for the District’s chief financial officer.
Told that the newspaper would not pay, the CFO’s office then said that only JP Morgan, to which it contracted out operations, had access to the store totals and that the office had never looked at them. After six months of the local government attempting to extract the information from JP Morgan, the District finally said that releasing the information would be illegal.
States instructed not to tell
Maryland denied The Times’ request for data under the Freedom of Information Act, saying the information belonged to the federal government, which instructed states not to release it.
Legislation seemingly designed to protect the industry goes so far as to say that anyone who releases the amount of food stamp dollars paid to a store can be jailed.
Profiting from the poor’s taxpayer-funded purchases has become big business for a mix of major companies and corner bodegas, which have spent millions of dollars lobbying Congress and the USDA to keep the money flowing freely.
The National Association of Convenience Store Operators alone spends millions of dollars on lobbying yearly, including $1 million in the first quarter of this year.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/24/top-secret-what-food-stamps-buy/?page=2
By: copperdog3
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you should know what's purchased.....Obama votes!
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bystar53 (32666.70) 
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@star53
Best comment of the day, star.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Byjoe prole (1708.80) 
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@star53
LOL, are you kidding me? How about showing us the report on what was purchased with food stamps during the Bush era. And show us where/how both the Department of Agriculture and Food and Nutrition Service is conspiring with these "Obama votes" when this report was produced in 2011 for its fiscal year.
Oh right, you'll conveniently not even see my response due to you having 90% of this site blocked from commenting or responding to you. But the rest of your lemming friends sho More..
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByLoomfries (228.86) 
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@Loomfries Why don't you look it up and post it for all to see?
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bymarc1921 (1478.96) 
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I didn't make the claim, Star53 did. Nobody ever asked or cared about a report until now..and that's my point.
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByLoomfries (228.86) 
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I was buying the cheapest ground beef I could, trying not to go over a certain amount on my groceries, and some fucking dude is buying filet mignons with food stamps. I could have more if I didn't work 40 hours a week. Da fuck?
Posted Jun-25-2012 BySinglecoilsnap (616.20) 
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@Singlecoilsnap same thing happened to me a while back at a local co-op store. I was fucking pissed, and this asshole had gold watches and rings
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bythedudeman9001 (59.50) 
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There's a big difference between people who are poor and worthless ghetto garbage who keep multiplying out their violent little tax burden cancers. Please make the distinction. I have no problem helping a fellow American in a time of need. I detest that I have to support these f'n birthing vessels along with their worthless sperm donor men.
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByBullsOnParadeNYC (320.20) 
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Big words for a Mexican national here illegal, Mrs. Gonzalez
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByTanngrisnir3 (368.84) Tanngrisnir3 View Channel Send Message
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There goes that transparency Czar again. So transparent, I can see right through him and his agenda.
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByYukon6400 (1010.82) Yukon6400 View Channel Send Message
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Food stamps are currency in the right stores and neighborhoods. You can by anything. Booze, smokes, drugs, sex, the list is endless.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Byjoe prole (1708.80) 
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@joe prole Thats everywhere
Posted Jun-25-2012 BySpecialEd (496.64) SpecialEd View Channel Send Message
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lets let everyone sit around and do nothing, welfare for everyone!
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByMonty (131.80) 
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80B is a joke.. There are people really in need and hungry in the USA. I get it.. But We spent $80B so people could go to the store and buy doritos and other crap. A Waste of your money.
With that much cash we should be able to feed more people AND feed them healthy meals too! Make them go get the food at a food pantry. This is about feeding as many hungry people as possible.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bystepkau (83.58) 
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It used to be well intended, but these days, it's about votes.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Byjoe prole (1708.80) 
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Perhaps you've heard: At a time of record need for food assistance
among America's poor, the U.S. Senate is poised to cut roughly $4.5
billion from food stamps, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program
(SNAP), which 46 million Americans -- one in seven of us -- rely upon.
While Congress is obsessed with saving money by cutting assistance to
our poorest citizens, there's been nary a peep about how major banks and
food corporations profit from food stamps, and what that means for
recipi More..
Posted Jun-25-2012 Byecho4250 (827.74) echo4250 View Channel Send Message
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@echo4250 Thanks for the info.
Posted Jun-25-2012 BySinglecoilsnap (616.20) 
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@echo4250 Record use does not equal record need. They are freeloaders created by Obummer.
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@SpecialEd If you are not capable of reading all of the info I posted,then why do you bother to comment.It shows just how "special"you are Ed.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Byecho4250 (827.74) echo4250 View Channel Send Message
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@echo4250
You really expect us to read all of that? Why not make your own post instead of hijacking copperdog's? And as soon as I saw your avatar, I knew it wouldn't be worth reading anyway.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bydirtbiker201 (1588.38) 
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@echo4250 Wow, Good reply!
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bymarc1921 (1478.96) 
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Back in the 90's, the food stamp program was restricted to folks who worked at least 20 hours a week. That was part of Clinton's welfare busting agenda.
A democrat. It's about time to reign in this de facto stimulus program.
Yes, for the un smart amongst us, that what this is.
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByBlue3tar (496.60) 
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@Blue3tar Obummer wants as many people depending on the gov as possible. Look at student loans, now the gov runs them all.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bymarc1921 (1478.96) 
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file this under Solyndra campaign funds.
Posted Jun-25-2012 ByAmusing (5321.18) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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@Amusing so you're saying obama should of read the future on his govt investments? You should work on wall street since you have such clever hindsight
Posted Jun-26-2012 Byqwerty4242 (1261.80) qwerty4242 View Channel Send Message
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Why is the government investing in business at all? When was the last time it ever ended well?
Posted Jun-26-2012 Bycopperdog3 (1055.64) 
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This is the next paragraph to your story.Why did you not include this little tidbit of info?.......In February, 7-Eleven hired a former aide to House Speaker John A. Boehner, Ohio Republican, to lobby on “issues related to the general application and approval process for qualified establishments serving SNAP-eligible recipients.”
Posted Jun-25-2012 Byecho4250 (827.74) echo4250 View Channel Send Message
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@echo4250
I provided the link for the rest of the story. Using part of the story with links to the rest is considered fair use. To include the entire piece risks copyright hassles. Its right there at the bottom of the post.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bycopperdog3 (1055.64) 
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@copperdog3 Simply because your intent was to slam Obama and in doing so you didn't want to include the part about republicans being just as complacent.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Byecho4250 (827.74) echo4250 View Channel Send Message
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@echo4250
I will slam the big O every chance I get. But don't blame me for not reading the entirety of the story. Flex your finger and you have every byte of the article. The break I used was in the original post. Just because you find it easier to piss in the wind and blame others is not my fault. Do some homework.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bycopperdog3 (1055.64) 
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90% of it is stuff they don't need. Or they go in and buy a pack of gum with a twenty dollar food stamp.
Posted Jun-25-2012 BySpecialEd (496.64) SpecialEd View Channel Send Message
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Cancel all food stamps and bring back the soup kitchens. Make people work at the soup kitchens or they don't eat.
And then lets see how many of the food stamp recipients magically start finding jobs so they can feed themselves and not have to go to the soup kitchens.
Problem solved. Billions of dollars saved.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bydirtbiker201 (1588.38) 
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@dirtbiker201 Thats not the point of the article. If you don't know how the TAXPAYERS money was spent how do you control fraud?
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bymarc1921 (1478.96) 
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Would probably cost another 2 billion a year to keep track of something like that. Actually I'm not even sure it would be possible. Not everything is computerized, you know.
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$80 billion. For that much it damn well should be possible. There's no effing excuse for this sh.t.
Oh, and just wait for the call to balance the budget and curb some of this crap. We'll see nothing but single mothers (nevermind how they got that way) with three kids trying to suck two tits.
Write it down and remember where you heard it called.
Posted Jun-25-2012 Bycopperdog3 (1055.64) 
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@copperdog3 You might be right, but first you gotta do cost benefit analysis to make sure. That costs about $10 million, blah blah blah, etc. etc...
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Well, allowing systemic fraud and patronage gets to continue as long as its too expensive to prosecute? Talk about too big to fail.
Posted Jun-26-2012 Bycopperdog3 (1055.64) 
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